Everything about : RH Bill ( Reproductive Health Bill)

[rob123]

we are not overpopulated. We tend to gather in a place. kadako sa cebu, adto sa province...gamay ra tao.

unya na diay ta mo engon overpopulated tale kon mag barog na ta kon ma tug.

[giddyboy]

The role of the Church in this RH Bill seems more of INFLUENCING. Dipping their hands in the affairs of the State.

the Church cannot impose its morality to our government, nor blackmail it.

this is an issue of separation of church and state. The church is not the people nor the Philippines. it is our gov't instead who is the people and the Philippines.

otherwise, ato nlng himoun ug presidente atong archbishop, then the entire Philippines run by the theocrats and declare our country as a new version of Vatican...nya ang kinsa tong mo undergo ug safe-motherhood program sa DOH, dili taga-an ug communion. LOLs

yes, the church has religio-socio-political endeavors also, but let them leave the citizens to think and decide by themselves.

if the church says using condom is immoral, it can't prevent the state to legalize the use of condom.

<sarcasm on> besides, kinsa pa gud intawn ang wala nigamit rn ug condom nowadays wui? mga pari? i don't think nakasala ko sa Ginoo ky nigamit ko ug condom sa akong wife...lisora rba gyud nang unplanned pregnancy wui. samotan pa gyud mahal ang pabunyag...hehe

if the church says using birth control pills is immoral too, kinsa ba gud intawn ang wala nigamit ana rn oi? basin mga pari ra ang wala...hehe..also, i don't think nakasala ko ug akong misis ky nigamit ug birth control pills? i don't think so. <sarcasm off>

ang tawo, wala rana ga rely sa church morality in his/her decisions oi. he also has to rely on his scientific logic & reasoning, legal morality, group morality, ethnic morality, and so on and so forth.

Prankahay lang ba, i think our Catholic Church in the Phils has become "overly spoiled" nowadays. because of its role in removing Marcos, it became even more influential up to now. whatever it says, kinanglan matuman sa tanan...

[eax]

we are not overpopulated. We tend to gather in a place. kadako sa cebu, adto sa province...gamay ra tao.

Kanus-a diay ta molihok? Kanang, daghan na kaayo ta?

[wng]

The role of the Church is to expose the lies of Lagman and his trapo cohorts.

HB 5043 (the so-called RH bill) is NOT about choice. We already have the free choice to use contraceptives. It is all about COERCION: the bill will FORCE doctors and employers to dispense abortifacients and silence those who want to speak out against the bill.

And the rights of the patients aren't a consideration? Everyone has the RIGHT to INFORMED CONSENT. Or INFORMED REFUSAL. That's among the most basic of human rights. And I haven't heard of any health workers complaining about this. This is a non-issue to them, as it is the best interest of the patients that is supposed to be protected. Are you advocating that health workers give placebos instead of pills without informing the people? That should be punishable by law! And I don't see such an act as bringing anyone closer to heaven.

Section 21 (e) of the proposed bill lists the following as a prohibited act: "Any person who maliciously engages in disinformation about the intent or provisions of this Act. This provision is overly broad and "disinformation" could (and most probably will) be construed as prohibiting the expression of objections to the Bill, such as what we are presently doing. This provision is is obviously going to be used to suppress dissent, and is an undue restriction of freedom of speech. It has no place in any of the laws of a democratic nation.

This section states maliciously engages in disinformation. If you consider yourself included in such definition, then so be it. But any definition of democracy or declaration of human rights do not have provisions that say anyone has the right to spread disinformation and do malicious acts.

[wng]

we are not overpopulated. We tend to gather in a place. kadako sa cebu, adto sa province...gamay ra tao.

Adto sa Hilutungan o sa Caubian off Mactan, tan-awa nang unsay mahitabo sa atong mga isla kung grabe na gyud ka overpopulated. Kung balik ka sa province, sabta nang operations sa humayan. Mao bitaw rice terraces na lang nang tanuman sa uban, kay wa nay lain yuta. Motubo pa lang na nga cost-effective nang humay sa atop o sa sulod sa balay, puwede nang wala nay hawan nga lugar sa probinsya. Kuwang pa man gani nang yuta nato karon kay di na ta ka provide sa atong kaugalingon sa kadaghan sa mga tawo. Mao nang import ta bugas, export ta ug tawo sa Philippines kay daghan man gyud tawo.

[Raikage]

unya na diay ta mo engon overpopulated tale kon mag barog na ta kon ma tug.

Kanus-a pamana....? ang mga tao...mamatay man gyud. napay gira! napay crimes!

ang japan ug singapore gani bisan daghan pa sila ug lugar, gi control nila nag birth , karon gusto na sila ug daghan ug tao. Use ur utok brain uy!

[Raikage]

Adto sa Hilutungan o sa Caubian off Mactan, tan-awa nang unsay mahitabo sa atong mga isla kung grabe na gyud ka overpopulated. Kung balik ka sa province, sabta nang operations sa humayan. Mao bitaw rice terraces na lang nang tanuman sa uban, kay wa nay lain yuta. Motubo pa lang na nga cost-effective nang humay sa atop o sa sulod sa balay, puwede nang wala nay hawan nga lugar sa probinsya. Kuwang pa man gani nang yuta nato karon kay di na ta ka provide sa atong kaugalingon sa kadaghan sa mga tawo. Mao nang import ta bugas, export ta ug tawo sa Philippines kay daghan man gyud tawo.

kasabot ka unsay overpopulated? ayaw patakag storya kay wala gyud ka kasabot! intawn...u dnt deserve a response.

[kit_cebu]

the church has no role whatsoever in political things....
they can guide but should not join any rally and those things....
they should understand why....

[darkdevil]

Samok samok ra ng church....sige nalang panghilabot

[wng]

@Raikage

You don't deserve my response either. I am not looking forward to debate with you as I don't want to stoop this low. Can't believe someone believes in the impeccability of all clergy members. It's bad enough that your posts are not well researched and has no basis. It's the worst that you're accusing people of not understanding when you yourself don't understand anything. Read the encyclopedia, read the Bible, then ask yourself WWJD.