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  1. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO View Post
    OT
    hoy mga KIDS

    ayaw tawn mo pagbinata

    avoid harsh words tawn.. tan awa gud ko.. naay infractions, na-angin lang ko ani.. mao nga hununga na ang cursing. Grow old dudes..
    Sorry papa!

  2. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    nganong paangkunon man ko nimo? unsa man akong sala nimo? guilty ko? bro wala man ko masayop ikaw moy wala kasabot bro! sige padayon sa uban nga mga verses! tutuli sa imong mga verses to refute those verses beh!

    I want you to cite sad verses bro! wala man kay source!Pag chur uy! PEACE!
    aw wala pa diay ma clear sa kang Elias? cge akong balikon ang pangutana ha:

    matod pa nimo ang dili deserving sa heaven mu reincarnate, unya nganong ni reincarnate man si Elias? dili diay siya deserving para mahilangit? that is why kinahanglang pa siya mu reincarnate to learn his past life's lesson? unsa man diay ang kinabuhi ni elias sa una? dautan diay siya? problemado diay siya? negative diay ang kinabuhi niya?

    tubaga na bro unya pasabta ko ug maayo bro nganong ni reincarnate si Elias wala man kaha ko nakasabot...

  3. #143

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    aw wala pa diay ma clear sa kang Elias? cge akong balikon ang pangutana ha:

    matod pa nimo ang dili deserving sa heaven mu reincarnate, unya nganong ni reincarnate man si Elias? dili diay siya deserving para mahilangit? that is why kinahanglang pa siya mu reincarnate to learn his past life's lesson? unsa man diay ang kinabuhi ni elias sa una? dautan diay siya? problemado diay siya? negative diay ang kinabuhi niya?

    tubaga na bro unya pasabta ko ug maayo bro nganong ni reincarnate si Elias wala man kaha ko nakasabot...
    Natubag nana nako bro! Broken record na ka bro sa tagalog pa sirang plaka!

    go to the next verses bro! refute those verses with your verse bro! please cite your bible as your source not your reason alone!

  4. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Natubag nana nako bro! Broken record na ka bro sa tagalog pa sirang plaka!

    go to the next verses bro! refute those verses with your verse bro! please cite your bible as your source not your reason alone!
    niingon ka wala ko nakasabot. maong akong gibalik para magkasinabot ta. dili na diay nimo ipabalik? cge pero refuted na tong Elias ha, kay daghan raba kag mga verses nga gigamit mahitungod kang Elias.

    so ari napud ta ni Jeremiah:

    Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

    Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


    unsay pagsabot nimo ana nga verse bro?

  5. #145

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    niingon ka wala ko nakasabot. maong akong gibalik para magkasinabot ta. dili na diay nimo ipabalik? cge pero refuted na tong Elias ha, kay daghan raba kag mga verses nga gigamit mahitungod kang Elias.

    so ari napud ta ni Jeremiah:

    Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

    Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


    unsay pagsabot nimo ana nga verse bro?
    ikaw ra nay ga sulti nga refuted! toinks tututli sa na bro nganong imo man kung pangutan un? pag cite sa ug verse to refute that verse! toinks

  6. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    for those who believe in reincarnation: possible ba nga ma reincarnate ka from human to animals?
    NO. That's the old concept of reincarnation called transmigration. We will still assume a human form. The law of Evolution would apply that we will evolve spiritually!

  7. #147

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    ikaw ra nay ga sulti nga refuted! toinks tututli sa na bro nganong imo man kung pangutan un? pag cite sa ug verse to refute that verse! toinks
    mangutana ko kay ikaw gud ang naghatag ana nga verse. ato sang klaruhon kung unsay imong nasabtan ana nga verse. nagtuga tuga lang diay ka ug hatag ug verse nga wala nimo sabti?

    bantog ra...

    klaruhon sa nato bro kung unsay nasabtan nimo ana nga verse. kung dili ka mupasabot useless ra diay nang imong gipanghatag nga verse wala man diay ka nakasabot.

  8. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    mangutana ko kay ikaw gud ang naghatag ana nga verse. ato sang klaruhon kung unsay imong nasabtan ana nga verse. nagtuga tuga lang diay ka ug hatag ug verse nga wala nimo sabti?

    bantog ra...

    klaruhon sa nato bro kung unsay nasabtan nimo ana nga verse. kung dili ka mupasabot useless ra diay nang imong gipanghatag nga verse wala man diay ka nakasabot.


    so ari napud ta ni Jeremiah:

    Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

    Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


    unsay pagsabot nimo ana nga verse bro?

    sa akong pagsabot bro nag suggest na ug preexistence!

    Pre-existence (also spelled preëxistence), beforelife, or pre-mortal existence refers to the belief that each individual human soul existed before conception, and at conception (or later, depending on when it is believed that the soul enters the body) one of these pre-existent souls enters, or is placed by God, in the body. This belief is held to a varying degree in Abrahamic and other religions. Alternative positions are traducianism and creationism, which both hold that the individual human soul does not come into existence until conception.

    ikaw bro unsay sabot nimo? tubaga bro using your bible vers. wala pa jud kay napamatod-an based on the bible!

  9. #149

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    In Christianity, pre-existence is a minority position contrasted with the more widely held concepts of traducianism and creationism.
    The earliest surviving Christian writings on the pre-existence were from Origen. Origen believed that the soul was assigned a body as a penalty for its sin of looking downward toward the corrupt earth. He also taught that Jesus Christ was actually born of the Father before the world began or before any other creatures existed.
    "Jesus Christ Himself, who came, was born of the Father before all creatures; and after He had ministered to the Father in the creation of all things, for through Him all things were made" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:0:4 [A.D. 225]).
    The doctrine also derives in part from a repudiation of Greek thought by Tertullian, who argued that for each immaterial soul a material body was created.

    sa ato pa gi tudlo na diay ni sa unang panahon sa christianismo pa! see?
    Pre-existence in Greek thought

    Plato believed in the pre-existence of the soul, which tied in with his innatism. He thought that we are born with knowledge from a previous life that is subdued at birth and must be relearned. He saw all attainment of knowledge not as acquiring new information, but as remembering previously known information. Before we were born, we existed in a perfect world where we knew everything. This theory is similar to reincarnation, though there are differences - for example, Plato only believes in one earthly life.

  10. #150

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    so ari napud ta ni Jeremiah:

    Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

    Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


    unsay pagsabot nimo ana nga verse bro?

    sa akong pagsabot bro nag suggest na ug preexistence!

    Pre-existence (also spelled preëxistence), beforelife, or pre-mortal existence refers to the belief that each individual human soul existed before conception, and at conception (or later, depending on when it is believed that the soul enters the body) one of these pre-existent souls enters, or is placed by God, in the body. This belief is held to a varying degree in Abrahamic and other religions. Alternative positions are traducianism and creationism, which both hold that the individual human soul does not come into existence until conception.

    ikaw bro unsay sabot nimo? tubaga bro using your bible vers. wala pa jud kay napamatod-an based on the bible!
    In Christianity, pre-existence is a minority position contrasted with the more widely held concepts of traducianism and creationism.
    The earliest surviving Christian writings on the pre-existence were from Origen. Origen believed that the soul was assigned a body as a penalty for its sin of looking downward toward the corrupt earth. He also taught that Jesus Christ was actually born of the Father before the world began or before any other creatures existed.
    "Jesus Christ Himself, who came, was born of the Father before all creatures; and after He had ministered to the Father in the creation of all things, for through Him all things were made" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:0:4 [A.D. 225]).
    The doctrine also derives in part from a repudiation of Greek thought by Tertullian, who argued that for each immaterial soul a material body was created.

    sa ato pa gi tudlo na diay ni sa unang panahon sa christianismo pa! see?
    Pre-existence in Greek thought

    Plato believed in the pre-existence of the soul, which tied in with his innatism. He thought that we are born with knowledge from a previous life that is subdued at birth and must be relearned. He saw all attainment of knowledge not as acquiring new information, but as remembering previously known information. Before we were born, we existed in a perfect world where we knew everything. This theory is similar to reincarnation, though there are differences - for example, Plato only believes in one earthly life.
    asa man ang preexistence sa Jer 1:4-5 bro? dili man preexistence ang nakasuwat sa Jer. 1:4-5 bro. pataka man lagi mong conclude ug verse lagi maong pirmi jud mo sipyat.

    by the way, asa man ang source anang imong gi copy-paste? ayaw lagi ana bro nah makiha jud ka ug plagiarism.

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