aw wala pa diay ma clear sa kang Elias? cge akong balikon ang pangutana ha:
matod pa nimo ang dili deserving sa heaven mu reincarnate, unya nganong ni reincarnate man si Elias? dili diay siya deserving para mahilangit? that is why kinahanglang pa siya mu reincarnate to learn his past life's lesson? unsa man diay ang kinabuhi ni elias sa una? dautan diay siya? problemado diay siya? negative diay ang kinabuhi niya?
tubaga na bro unya pasabta ko ug maayo bro nganong ni reincarnate si Elias wala man kaha ko nakasabot...![]()
niingon ka wala ko nakasabot. maong akong gibalik para magkasinabot ta. dili na diay nimo ipabalik? cge pero refuted na tong Elias ha, kay daghan raba kag mga verses nga gigamit mahitungod kang Elias.
so ari napud ta ni Jeremiah:
Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
unsay pagsabot nimo ana nga verse bro?
mangutana ko kay ikaw gud ang naghatag ana nga verse. ato sang klaruhon kung unsay imong nasabtan ana nga verse. nagtuga tuga lang diay ka ug hatag ug verse nga wala nimo sabti?
bantog ra...
klaruhon sa nato bro kung unsay nasabtan nimo ana nga verse. kung dili ka mupasabot useless ra diay nang imong gipanghatag nga verse wala man diay ka nakasabot.![]()
so ari napud ta ni Jeremiah:
Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
unsay pagsabot nimo ana nga verse bro?
sa akong pagsabot bro nag suggest na ug preexistence!
Pre-existence (also spelled preëxistence), beforelife, or pre-mortal existence refers to the belief that each individual human soul existed before conception, and at conception (or later, depending on when it is believed that the soul enters the body) one of these pre-existent souls enters, or is placed by God, in the body. This belief is held to a varying degree in Abrahamic and other religions. Alternative positions are traducianism and creationism, which both hold that the individual human soul does not come into existence until conception.
ikaw bro unsay sabot nimo? tubaga bro using your bible vers. wala pa jud kay napamatod-an based on the bible!![]()
In Christianity, pre-existence is a minority position contrasted with the more widely held concepts of traducianism and creationism.
The earliest surviving Christian writings on the pre-existence were from Origen. Origen believed that the soul was assigned a body as a penalty for its sin of looking downward toward the corrupt earth. He also taught that Jesus Christ was actually born of the Father before the world began or before any other creatures existed.
"Jesus Christ Himself, who came, was born of the Father before all creatures; and after He had ministered to the Father in the creation of all things, for through Him all things were made" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:0:4 [A.D. 225]).
The doctrine also derives in part from a repudiation of Greek thought by Tertullian, who argued that for each immaterial soul a material body was created.
sa ato pa gi tudlo na diay ni sa unang panahon sa christianismo pa! see?
Pre-existence in Greek thought
Plato believed in the pre-existence of the soul, which tied in with his innatism. He thought that we are born with knowledge from a previous life that is subdued at birth and must be relearned. He saw all attainment of knowledge not as acquiring new information, but as remembering previously known information. Before we were born, we existed in a perfect world where we knew everything. This theory is similar to reincarnation, though there are differences - for example, Plato only believes in one earthly life.
asa man ang preexistence sa Jer 1:4-5 bro? dili man preexistence ang nakasuwat sa Jer. 1:4-5 bro. pataka man lagi mong conclude ug verse lagi maong pirmi jud mo sipyat.In Christianity, pre-existence is a minority position contrasted with the more widely held concepts of traducianism and creationism.
The earliest surviving Christian writings on the pre-existence were from Origen. Origen believed that the soul was assigned a body as a penalty for its sin of looking downward toward the corrupt earth. He also taught that Jesus Christ was actually born of the Father before the world began or before any other creatures existed.
"Jesus Christ Himself, who came, was born of the Father before all creatures; and after He had ministered to the Father in the creation of all things, for through Him all things were made" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:0:4 [A.D. 225]).
The doctrine also derives in part from a repudiation of Greek thought by Tertullian, who argued that for each immaterial soul a material body was created.
sa ato pa gi tudlo na diay ni sa unang panahon sa christianismo pa! see?
Pre-existence in Greek thought
Plato believed in the pre-existence of the soul, which tied in with his innatism. He thought that we are born with knowledge from a previous life that is subdued at birth and must be relearned. He saw all attainment of knowledge not as acquiring new information, but as remembering previously known information. Before we were born, we existed in a perfect world where we knew everything. This theory is similar to reincarnation, though there are differences - for example, Plato only believes in one earthly life.
by the way, asa man ang source anang imong gi copy-paste? ayaw lagi ana bro nah makiha jud ka ug plagiarism.![]()
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