Is it true networking business is good?

[ncmknight]

I'd rather say good luck sa imong venture.

For one, you are tied up in the brainwashing concept of "endless cycle of end-users". Dili end-users ang tawag sa distributors sir, kundili, midline victims. Sorry to say, I don't even think you used to be a networker who turned negative-minded about networking, kay natural sa tawo motagam. After motagam, we do our research and find out nga networking is designed to fail.

Most companies that are involved in networking are not really after the health or wellness of its members / end-users or victims. They are after your money. They devise a business plan, then insert a product into it. That is not how it works sa traditional business, where naa tay product, himoan natog marketing scheme.

No matter how much you justify it sa theory, it has never been found to be CONSISTENTLY EFFECTIVE in the real world. Effective tingali para sa nakauna, effective tingali para sa BAG-ONG MEMBER, effective tingali para sa maayo mobulatik, pero in the end, way laing padulngan... moundang ra gihapon kay wa nay MABALIGYAAN / MARECRUIT / MABIKTIMA.

Simple concept kung binary inyong sistema:

1st day = 2 recruits (or in networking bluff, ASSOCIATES)
2nd day = 2 x 2 recruits = 4 recruits
3rd day = 4 x 2 recruits = 8 recruits
4th day = 8 x 2 recruits = 16 recruits

continue....
up to ....
the ...

30th day = 1 BILLION PEOPLE!!!

Imagine what happens on the 60th day!

Now, considering nga somewhere, mohunong ang recruitment. Unsaon pagbawi sa last associates sa ilang kwarta? Do you really think the company shells out that much commission for pure sales? No sir, the company encourages you to recruit, not sell.

You, as associates are part of a big web of deception sa networking, kay kinahanglan kamo sad, mokaon sa inyong kaugalingong produkto. Kung di mo mokonsumo sa inyong kaugalingong product, patay inyong business.

Gigisa ra mo sa inyong kaugalingong mantika. Again, look at the links to the charts in my previous post.

Now may I challenge you: what's the networking company you are involved in? If you got nothing to hide, why not iladlad diri?

[ncmknight]

And with regards to your advertising claim, haven't you noticed that after more than 20 years in the networking business, their products still haven't reached household name status?

On the other hand, ang Roch, for instance, which has been in existence for less than 10 years, has become a household name. The difference? Advertising.

Know the reason why almost all networking companies don't advertise? They are afraid that when people start comparing, they'll discover that lesser-priced products are as effective, and similarly priced products (as your networking products) are clearly superior in quality.

Then they create the bluff that they don't advertise because instead of paying out advertising costs, they'd rather pay it out as commission.

Didn't they know that by advertising, they lend credibility to their products?

As they say, a wise man learns from his mistakes, but a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others. The statistics speak for itself. Networking simply doesn't work. 25 years should be enough to prove that this so-called "modern way to do business" works, but it has failed grossly.

[charot!]

@ncmknight, ask lng ko, from the time nga ni-join ka sa networking, pila ka days or months or years ka active sa networking until u realized na ilad na sya? and gi-unsa nimo pagkaybaw nga nailad ka?



@jeckky, pila na sab ka ka days / months/ years sa networking company nimo? and hope u wont mind, unsa diay ang name sa company. I guess mas maau siguro if imo na i-post dinhi ang name sa company. Anyway, we dont know your real name naman eh.



ang ako lng siguro maingon is:

good for those who joined sa networking na successful and nag-earn ug dako. Sa uban nga ala, naa man jud plan si Lord unsay best para sa inyo basta naa dira ang determination, perseverance, hardwork, honesty etc Depende ra man jud cguro na and if para imo jud na nga business or work, ma-successful man jud ka ana.

[emb_ventures]

i still believe it is good, you can start a business with a relatively small investment

[jeckky]

For one, you are tied up in the brainwashing concept of "endless cycle of end-users". Dili end-users ang tawag sa distributors sir, kundili, midline victims. Sorry to say, I don't even think you used to be a networker who turned negative-minded about networking, kay natural sa tawo motagam. After motagam, we do our research and find out nga networking is designed to fail.

Hi ncmknight,

Happy New Year!

I agree with your point that I’ve never been a networker who turned negative-minded. The truth is I turned negative-minded before becoming a hard-core networker after realizing the flaws and the deception within the system. Having seen being a potential doer of the business, I was called to join a core group meeting. I had a heart-to-heart talk with one of the leaders and according to him the secret of the business is simply “poising and edifying”. Poising in the sense that I had to establish a composure that I am already earning even if I have not; and edifying in the sense that I had to uplift the image of my upline as if he is already enjoying a fortune (like naka multicab na pinalit ug cash bisan gidata datahan) in just a short span of time aron maingganyo ang prospect mosignup then anha na magsugod nga makakwarta ko. In short, miundang ko kay dili kaya nga ako mahimong asset sa ilad ug ako sad mismo na shot sa taru. I decline to mention to you the company but I will give you a hint basin naa ka idea unsa ni nga company: aside from paying for registration, I had to invest P23,000 (napugos ko pangutang kay nangandoy madatu) then I had to maintain a monthly purchase of 3 bottles of expensive food supplement to qualify to earn bonuses and commissions.

[jeckky]

Simple concept kung binary inyong sistema:

1st day = 2 recruits (or in networking bluff, ASSOCIATES)
2nd day = 2 x 2 recruits = 4 recruits
3rd day = 4 x 2 recruits = 8 recruits
4th day = 8 x 2 recruits = 16 recruits

continue....
up to ....
the ...

30th day = 1 BILLION PEOPLE!!!

Imagine what happens on the 60th day!

Now, considering nga somewhere, mohunong ang recruitment. Unsaon pagbawi sa last associates sa ilang kwarta? Do you really think the company shells out that much commission for pure sales? No sir, the company encourages you to recruit, not sell.

Sa imo sad gipresent nga binary system analysis kapoy jud tinuod kung maoy tumanon unya undang sad dayon ang bisnis. Although you have presented the basic concept sa binary pero imo lang impose nga mao jud na nga system gisaligan aron mo earn. Actually ang binary system is just one of the ways to earn in our system lahi ra ang pag implement sa imong gipresent. Mas maau tingali mo attend ka sa among forum for curiousity sake lang gud. Maayo sad nga makita nimo ang loopholes sa among system aron mosultihan pud ko nimo kay morag suheto jud kaau ka aning networking. Iyawat na lang sad nga magiyahan ko nimo kay basin nailad na sad ko ani.

[jeckky]

If you're really so confident with that company, care to name it?

Actually, right after I read you request to name my company I posted a reply with my company’s name (as I was dared to name it) and it’s affiliate. Unfortunately it was edited by Omad (is omad one of the administrators in this forum?) For two days it stays unedited and during those days I saw you online. I was wondering though that you did not reply. Well, maybe you were online but just being busy with another forums and had no chance to read my unedited post.

Anyway, I deem it is better to repost the portion that was omitted during omad’s editing.
“my company is PLanetbiz, Int'l. with the cooperation and support of SEED (Secure E-Commerce & E-Payment Distribution) and AsiaPay (Asia's banking gateway to the Americas, Europe, Middle-East. and the rest of Asia). and Planetbiz is the only MLM company supported by AsiaPay. Pls. verify the integrity of AsiaPay as an institution. ”

Mas maau jud nga motambong ka pagpaminaw sa among system aron dili ka magtag-an tag-an nga in-ana ra na. ang akong cel number 09077551064. text mew when are you available and pls. post your acceptance or refusal sa akong invitation aron mabasa sad sa uban. I am looking forward to seeing you aron magiyahan pud ko nimo. I am open (humbly soliciting) to the idea nga imo kung magiyahan sa imong genuine knowledge sa network marketing. I believe that your being vocal is borne of your honest concern nga dila mailad ang mga tawo. I salute you.

Once again Happy New year to everybody in this forum. I hope this forum will remain democratic, descent, and lucrative for all of us.

[ncmknight]

If I didn't have some sort of basis, you could say gatag-an tag-an ko. Pero all MLMs are the same, whether Unilevel, Binary, Multi-level... it's all doomed by design. View my previous posts. You'll see what I mean by the charts.

If your business is as good as advertised by you, you wouldn't mind my refusal right now because if it is that good, the business will be existent and decently making people's lives in a few years time. And if that business is not as bad as other MLMs, I would not be so concerned about my POSITIONING on top of the PYRAMID.

I have my doubts, especially when I searched the net and I could not find any information about Planetbiz Int'l. Have you got a website? How can I dispel my doubts when I can't find any?

As far as I'm concerned, no other kind of business has as much hype and implosion as MLM.

[darkdruid]

And with regards to your advertising claim, haven't you noticed that after more than 20 years in the networking business, their products still haven't reached household name status?

On the other hand, ang Roch, for instance, which has been in existence for less than 10 years, has become a household name. The difference? Advertising.

Know the reason why almost all networking companies don't advertise? They are afraid that when people start comparing, they'll discover that lesser-priced products are as effective, and similarly priced products (as your networking products) are clearly superior in quality.

Then they create the bluff that they don't advertise because instead of paying out advertising costs, they'd rather pay it out as commission.

Didn't they know that by advertising, they lend credibility to their products?

As they say, a wise man learns from his mistakes, but a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others. The statistics speak for itself. Networking simply doesn't work. 25 years should be enough to prove that this so-called "modern way to do business" works, but it has failed grossly.

Correct dyud ka bro!

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Anyway, I deem it is better to repost the portion that was omitted during omad’s editing.
“my company is PLanetbiz, Int'l. with the cooperation and support of SEED (Secure E-Commerce & E-Payment Distribution) and AsiaPay (Asia's banking gateway to the Americas, Europe, Middle-East. and the rest of Asia). and Planetbiz is the only MLM company supported by AsiaPay. Pls. verify the integrity of AsiaPay as an institution. ”

sweet... but as usual, looy lang ang mga taw nga moapil. and if that company is doomed to fail like others... naa na pud lain network marketing company moabot... again and again... mahitabo na pud ang NEVER ending cycle...

[COLOR=black]I agree with your point that I’ve never been a networker who turned negative-minded. The truth is I turned negative-minded before becoming a hard-core networker after realizing the flaws and the deception within the system.

hard-core dyud... hehehe. i respect your past and present... but ever since before... havent you noticed that there are a lot of LOST rather than those who SUCCEED? I feel sorry for those who Lost coz of the greed of those who succeded.

Mas maau jud nga motambong ka pagpaminaw sa among system aron dili ka magtag-an tag-an nga in-ana ra na. ang akong cel number 09077551064. text mew when are you available and pls. post your acceptance or refusal sa akong invitation aron mabasa sad sa uban. I am looking forward to seeing you aron magiyahan pud ko nimo. I am open (humbly soliciting) to the idea nga imo kung magiyahan sa imong genuine knowledge sa network marketing. I believe that your being vocal is borne of your honest concern nga dila mailad ang mga tawo. I salute you.

Once again Happy New year to everybody in this forum. I hope this forum will remain democratic, descent, and lucrative for all of us.

yep... one of the methods to shut off a person, and if motambong and negative.. ingnon dayon nga the business is not for all. hahahaha.. OLD Stuff! playing safe, playing cool... thumbs up ko bro coz you have the right training. you must have a good L-Attitude. but still i feel sorry for those MANY who failed. i'm not negative and not possitive about networking. but i just wanted to prevent loss on a lot of people.

maayo pa mag AVON, DAKKI, Natasha & lot not mentioned coz they are not afraid of the negative effects of network marketing since people accept them as they are. unlike new networking who forced themselves into peoples hearts by letting them attend hours of talks during forum in which only POSITIVE ipakita and scripted na pud ang reply sa mga Questions.

[ncmknight]

darkdruid,

Can't fault the associates, especially the new recruits. Everyone experiences cluelessness at one time.

When LBB was put up, few of my friends joined. Now only 1 from those I know has remained, and that's the 2nd level pyramid occupant here in Cebu. And to think, they joined starting 3rd quarter of 2007.

The same holds true with NRich. Now some of them are badmouthing NRich, or simply, they don't have time to network anymore. Very ironic since they say network earnings is far better than salary. I guess what they really meant was "we can't recruit anyone anymore. Hurot na among kaila. "

Now here comes Planetbiz, Inc. and as stated in their website, "founded by veteran network marketing couple Noel and Janette Velasquez, based in Cebu City, Philippines." I wonder from what MLM company these couple came from? Why didn't they sustain their network marketing business from another firm? Why did they have to put up their own? TO BE ON TOP OF THE PYRAMID, perhaps? And when was this founded?

And please, distinguish AsiaPay from Planetbiz Inc. Even unethical MLM companies are members of DSA.

I'm still amazed at people being led by the nose to MLM. Perhaps a brief interview with neighbors, friends and family members will enlighten people about the pitfalls of MLM.