Game and Graphics programming

[simoncpu]

I guess I'm just lucky for being able to work in a company that does not discriminate, and where career advancement is not a problem. Although I can't elaborate on it publicly, I can say that I'm so lucky to work in a company that values its employees' growth. For that I'm extremely grateful.

[gloryhunter]

I guess I'm just lucky for being able to work in a company that does not discriminate, and where career advancement is not a problem. Although I can't elaborate on it publicly, I can say that I'm so lucky to work in a company that values its employees' growth. For that I'm extremely grateful.

OT:
Yes, you are very lucky. We can't have luck forever though. Mas maayo nang maniguro.

It's really good to finish what you have started.

If it's my turn to be an employer i wont hire undergrad.

[gloryhunter]

In a documentary about the Netscape/Mozilla deal, they hired a 16 year old to help clean up the Netscape code base to jumpstart the Mozilla open source
project so I assume some companies in the US do not give a $#!+ about what your educational background is as long as you can bring something to the
table. I mean how many drop-outs in the US are now multi-millionaires or billionaires.

But I have to agree with xyberblue, the Philippines is diplomatic. Here in our company, those that only finished vocational school do not get the same
opportunities as their college/university peers in terms of career advancement. They still get to go to Japan though so I guess our company is not that
bad.

OT na pud:

Ill enumerate these few guys in this field:

Alan Kay
Alan Turing
Dennis Ritchie
Ken Thompson
James Gosling
Alfred Aho
John McCarthy
Roel Mhagfayevsky
Larry Wall
Wilson Ng Khai
Edsger Dijkstra
Anders Hejlsberg
Linus Torvalds

Who are they? What are the things do they have in common? In case you don't have a clue, they are the hackers who dictate what programming language we should use, what is a computer science should be. And they are DEGREE holders.

It will also reflect your personality because you cannot finish on what you have started. Why should I hire who cannot finish something? Of course there is an exception to that if your skill is like JKH (John K. Hubbard).

Please stop encouraging the kids to stop schooling because a company can send training in Japan. A 1 million informal trainings cant equal a degree.

It's true that a 16 yr old can do programming, but if your goal is just a programming, then you can stop schooling.
If you are pursuing to be a computer scientist then mangiskuyla ta boys.

Note that programming job is not secure nowadays because they just send the jobs to India or the noobs who will accept cheap payments. And someday US will train monkeys to code because you dont have pay them big bucks; just big banana. Beware!

[xyberblue]

In a documentary about the Netscape/Mozilla deal, they hired a 16 year old to help clean up the Netscape code base to jumpstart the Mozilla open source
project so I assume some companies in the US do not give a $#!+ about what your educational background is as long as you can bring something to the
table. I mean how many drop-outs in the US are now multi-millionaires or billionaires.

But I have to agree with xyberblue, the Philippines is diplomatic. Here in our company, those that only finished vocational school do not get the same
opportunities as their college/university peers in terms of career advancement. They still get to go to Japan though so I guess our company is not that
bad.

OT na pud:

Ill enumerate these few guys in this field:

Alan Kay
Alan Turing
Dennis Ritchie
Ken Thompson
James Gosling
Alfred Aho
John McCarthy
Roel Mhagfayevsky
Larry Wall
Wilson Ng Khai
Edsger Dijkstra
Anders Hejlsberg
Linus Torvalds

Who are they? What are the things do they have in common? In case you don't have a clue, they are the hackers who dictate what programming language we should use, what is a computer science should be. And they are DEGREE holders.

It will also reflect your personality because you cannot finish on what you have started. Why should I hire who cannot finish something? Of course there is an exception to that if your skill is like JKH (John K. Hubbard).

Please stop encouraging the kids to stop schooling because a company can send training in Japan. A 1 million informal trainings cant equal a degree.

It's true that a 16 yr old can do programming, but if your goal is just a programming, then you can stop schooling.
If you are pursuing to be a computer scientist then mangiskuyla ta boys.

Note that programming job is not secure nowadays because they just send the jobs to India or the noobs who will accept cheap payments. And someday US will train monkeys to code because you dont have pay them big bucks; just big banana. Beware!

OT: OT natang tanan... warningan nya ta ani....

Pero, we just expressing what the company here in Cebu offer for the undergrad and graduates. Yeah, it's true that they are also did better jobs compare to graduates, but as what I have seen nowadays like in our employer, they don't regularized people who are undergrads, instead, they use them and encourage them to finish their degree.

Yeah, programming skills can only be acquired, but Im just considering the fact on what is happening to our country nowadays.

Ot na jud to ha, where naman ang group for games and graphics programming?

[simoncpu]

In case you don't have a clue, they are the hackers who dictate what programming language we should use, what is a computer science should be. And they are DEGREE holders.

Someone actually dictates what programming language we should use and what Computer Science should be? Oh geez, I must have been living in a cave or something because in our baranggay, the choice is dictated by the requirements of the project. Someone may introduce new technologies or write RFCs as our field evolves, but Computer Science is simply is.

It's true that a 16 yr old can do programming, but if your goal is just a programming, then you can stop schooling.
If you are pursuing to be a computer scientist then mangiskuyla ta boys.

Note that programming job is not secure nowadays because they just send the jobs to India or the noobs who will accept cheap payments. And someday US will train monkeys to code because you dont have pay them big bucks; just big banana. Beware!

You forgot to mention, however, that a degree is never a guarantee of job security. This is getting OT now, so I'll just stop right here. But yeah, I hope to become a Computer Scientist someday, but I'll continue pursuing it once I retire at age 23 or 24.

[ simon.cpu ]

[gloryhunter]

simoncpu,

Whether you like it or not, you use a programming language designed by those people. In that context, it's a dictation. They are telling you what a for-loop syntax should be, what bytecode should be produced, and how a computer should work. Have you created a programming language? Let me know and i will be glad to use it.

Of course there's no job security of having a degree but it has better chances than who doesnt have. You just heard the horror with the absence of the degree and how hard to find a job without a degree. Situations like that are applicable to all the countries even in the US.

Your first project, with first requirement is to finish school, was a failure. You triedÂ* tried 2nd one and it was failure again.Â* Â*Can you explain why? If you will just tell me that you were just bored in the class, then it's a downside, and a good employer never hire you. Not all programming stuff are exciting --- FACT. What would you then for boring programming task? you willÂ* just stop working?

I am encouraging you to try schoool again and I hope you will succeed.

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To poster and mods, sorry for the OT posts.

[silent-kill]

ang ako lang ma sulti is.. in every rule there is an exception... pero... dapat dili ta mag huna huna na kita tong "exception" sa rule heehhehe...

[simoncpu]

Your first project, with first requirement is to finish school, was a failure. You tried tried 2nd one and it was failure again. Can you explain why?

What? Oh my god. Too bad I can't elaborate on it lest I violate any NDAs, but I'll stick to our original off-topic. I'll try to go back to school in a couple of years, but definitely not now. One of the reasons why I stopped is because I didn't learn anything due to my learning style. Schools are supposed to accomodate people whose dominant brain hemisphere is on the right side, but not in my school. You are merely trained to become a good, docile, and obedient employee. I mean, when a teacher asks for a C project with a GUI and other students pass character-based apps, I can't understand why teachers don't appreciate you passing a full-fledge Visual C++ app instead. When you are asked to make a database application yet you passed a full-fledge e-commerce website (which is technically within the requirements), they will simply tell you, "Sorry, you can't pass that kind of project until next sem." WTF? Do that in the real world and you will get a raise.

Heck, I'd rather learn in the real world and go back to school to fulfill basic requirements later. I've learned more things in a few months while working here than what I've learned in a year at school anyway.

If you will just tell me that you were just bored in the class, then it's a downside, and a good employer never hire you. Not all programming stuff are exciting --- FACT. What would you then for boring programming task? you will just stop working?

The word Boredom in the same sentence as Programming? Sorry, never heard of that. Good employers may not hire us, but the best ones will.

[gloryhunter]

This is a good read for everyone: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articl...egeAdvice.html . Focus on boring stuff in programming. Warning! this is not for close minded people.

When you are asked to make a database application yet you passed a full-fledge e-commerce website (which is technically within the requirements), they will simply tell you, "Sorry, you can't pass that kind of project until next sem."

Are you exaggerating right? If that's true its ridiculous. In that case, blame the teacher only not the value of education.

Naa ra man diay na, I am glad you are planning to finish school.

Kani lang bai, you are misleading the kids, and a bit icky to my ears who valued a degree.

was planning to study part time, but I realized that it would take up much of my time. But hey, the world is my school and Experience is my teacher. I'm learning many things here that are not taught in school. I'll try to see if I can go back to school after 4 years. My parents keep urging me to go back, but I don't see any point on why having "A Degree" is necessary.

[silent-kill]

Good employers may not hire us, but the best ones will.

kani mo too jud ko ani.. ordinary employeers dont see real talents/skill...

pero swela lang balik for the sake of having a degree para LAPIDA na lang gud hehhehe at least naa kai title.. I bet kong concern jud nimo imong employer gaan ka nila og full scholarship para ka makatiwas og swela..