i'm just wondering....

[korosukun]

ang Jesus sa una kay ORIGINAL man to...as in siya gyud ba.

ang karon kay daghan man mo claim nga sila si Jesus o nag subay ni Jesus...pero nganong mangolekta man sila ug kwarta?

Si JESUS ba during his time, nangolekta pud ug kwarta?
kung nanglolekta...10% pud o sa pila ra ang makaya...hehehe

they collect money in order to survive...

amung church naay offerings para sa church... dli mn sd na ibulsa... ky member mn ko sa worship team... so, kahibaw ko kung asa padong ang kwarta... and, even though member ko sa worship team, mu hatag ghapon ko... bsag student pa ko...

and if we collect... dli mi mamugos ug mangayu sa dyes pursyento... ky kung muhatag kag subra pa sa 10% pero, dli kinasing kasing imng pag hatag, maypa wla nlng...dbah? when you give, give to the Lord... bsag P5 pa na, payts na kaau na... every peso counts gd...

[leo_trams]

aw, dili diay mangolekta....they make members believe that they are OFFERINGS/GIFTS. So, dili siya COLLECTION.

hmmm...OFFERINGS/GIFTS for whom?

hahaha, every peso counts diay? so, naa diay mo Accounting and Audit Team?
naa mo FINANCIAL REPORT nga ipagawas o ipakita sa mga miembro?
where na gibutang o gipaskin sa pultahan sa inyo office o church building?
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[korosukun]

aw, dili diay mangolekta....they make members believe that they are OFFERINGS/GIFTS. So, dili siya COLLECTION.

hmmm...OFFERINGS/GIFTS for whom?

hahaha, every peso counts diay? so, naa diay mo Accounting and Audit Team?
naa mo FINANCIAL REPORT nga ipagawas o ipakita sa mga miembro?
where na gibutang o gipaskin sa pultahan sa inyo office o church building?
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so, ikaw, mu ad2 ka sa usa ka church... ayaw nlng ug hatag ky i know sakit kaau na para nimo ang mu hatag ug offerings...

amng church naa mn gyd na mga activities/goal... like next year palit mi ug instruments... off course k2 nga kwarta gkan sa members sa church... that means, k2ng istruments, dli to amoa... but sa tanan... activities, like christmas party, youth rally, etc... naa mn gyd na... paminaw nimo, dli kaha na mag require ug dako nga kwarta... ug sa church building sd... dbah? common sense ra mn na bro... naa mn gyd na progress ang church... dli lng kana lng pirme... mu asenso gyd na... dli pariha sa uban nga kung unsa ang sinugdanan, ma0 lng ghapon hangtod krn...

and mag post sd mi kung pila ang total sa usa ka buwan... arn ma aware sd ang mga membro... ug knng mga accnting nga imo gi mean, sa church members ra sd mi nag kuha nga among gi assign dha nga dapit...

i hope clear na sa imo ang tanan...

ky na obserbahan nku, gi kuntrahan gyd nimo ang offering sa church... kasabot mn ko nimo... you must be the first one nga mu buhat ug church nga wlay offerings...good luck ana bro...

God Bless you...

[Ramini]

common sense. it's like saying i'm the son of Superman and Batman is my uncle.

magsuon diay si batman ug superman nga mahimo man nmo syang uncle..hehehe!!! hala didn't know about that!!..hehe

[isaiah53]

2 Corinthians 9:6-9

“Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. As it is written: ‘He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever.”

It is not just money that you can give to God. You can offer something in kind or in service. You can offer your gifts and talents back to God by involving yourself in Church activities. It is not how much you give that matters, but the sincerity and cheerfulness of your spirit, for God looks at your heart.

If anything, because of doubt, is hard for your heart to give, give to the Lord.

[kit_cebu]

2 Corinthians 9:6-9

“Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. As it is written: ‘He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever.”

It is not just money that you can give to God. You can offer something in kind or in service. You can offer your gifts and talents back to God by involving yourself in Church activities. It is not how much you give that matters, but the sincerity and cheerfulness of your spirit, for God looks at your heart.

If anything, because of doubt, is hard for your heart to give, give to the Lord.

this quote just solidifies jesus is the first psychologist (probably the greatest)ever... he makes you think that by giving away something, you gain something......above...heaven....
heaven is a magical, (state of mind) place where religious people find happiness or fulfillment...
since i'm not that much of a religious person, MUSIC is the place (state of mind) where i can find my happiness or fulfillment or even a cover to my sadness and sorrow... listening to music is already fulfilling to me... i tried so much or a lot about religion that just can't give me happiness or a feeling of fulfillment.

[kit_cebu]

so, ikaw, mu ad2 ka sa usa ka church... ayaw nlng ug hatag ky i know sakit kaau na para nimo ang mu hatag ug offerings...

amng church naa mn gyd na mga activities/goal... like next year palit mi ug instruments... off course k2 nga kwarta gkan sa members sa church... that means, k2ng istruments, dli to amoa... but sa tanan... activities, like christmas party, youth rally, etc... naa mn gyd na... paminaw nimo, dli kaha na mag require ug dako nga kwarta... ug sa church building sd... dbah? common sense ra mn na bro... naa mn gyd na progress ang church... dli lng kana lng pirme... mu asenso gyd na... dli pariha sa uban nga kung unsa ang sinugdanan, ma0 lng ghapon hangtod krn...

and mag post sd mi kung pila ang total sa usa ka buwan... arn ma aware sd ang mga membro... ug knng mga accnting nga imo gi mean, sa church members ra sd mi nag kuha nga among gi assign dha nga dapit...

i hope clear na sa imo ang tanan...

ky na obserbahan nku, gi kuntrahan gyd nimo ang offering sa church... kasabot mn ko nimo... you must be the first one nga mu buhat ug church nga wlay offerings...good luck ana bro...

God Bless you...

ang problema anang offering bro is that mo-offer ta sa simbahan nga ang pari nga nag-pajero/land cruiser/revo, nya kita nag-jeep ra or nag-multicab/surplus magka-lisud pa, mag-lakaw....
mao manay sakit diha gud........ nya sila nag-feeding program...... dili baya lechon gi-feeding program ana.... lugaw ra.... as of the past few years, i give out sa mangayo sa dalan kaysa sibot......
i'm also considering hatag directly sa mga home.... in kind.... not cash kay mas dali ra mawagtang cash kaysa ma-ikog mo-dalag delata....

[Hellblazer 2.1]

ang problema anang offering bro is that mo-offer ta sa simbahan nga ang pari nga nag-pajero/land cruiser/revo, nya kita nag-jeep ra or nag-multicab/surplus magka-lisud pa, mag-lakaw....
mao manay sakit diha gud........ nya sila nag-feeding program...... dili baya lechon gi-feeding program ana.... lugaw ra.... as of the past few years, i give out sa mangayo sa dalan kaysa sibot......
i'm also considering hatag directly sa mga home.... in kind.... not cash kay mas dali ra mawagtang cash kaysa ma-ikog mo-dalag delata....

pretty ironic, isn't it?

[seven_segment]

naa may nag prophecy sa kang Hesus... and kahibaw sd siya nga naay nag prophecy niya... ingon pa gni siya after siya gilansang... 'it is done!"

sa karn, obvious kaau pangwarta... or, just to turn people from good... or sakit lng gyd sa ulo... nagpapansin lng pd...

the difference btween Jesus and them is, Jesus do all the right thing... dli gni siya ma tintal sa yawa... nya, knng mga nag claim nga propeta is, pariha sa kang ecleo... manggamit ug babay... paliwatan lge kuno...tsk!tsk!tsk!

samot na..those who bears the moon and the stars...I think their prophet was born on the 3th-4th Century AD...

[seven_segment]

ang problema anang offering bro is that mo-offer ta sa simbahan nga ang pari nga nag-pajero/land cruiser/revo, nya kita nag-jeep ra or nag-multicab/surplus magka-lisud pa, mag-lakaw....
mao manay sakit diha gud........ nya sila nag-feeding program...... dili baya lechon gi-feeding program ana.... lugaw ra.... as of the past few years, i give out sa mangayo sa dalan kaysa sibot......
i'm also considering hatag directly sa mga home.... in kind.... not cash kay mas dali ra mawagtang cash kaysa ma-ikog mo-dalag delata....

brod, wa man sad mamugos ug muhatag ba or dili...

and if you're giving heartily...you'll never think of nga ang imong gihatag para sa Pajero ni...or para sa Aircon ni sa kumbento...etc..etc...you know na...

if you're thinking that way...plastic ra kau brod...maypag di ka muhatag...