Is the Acting Mayor Rama just a puppet of on leave Mayor Osmena?

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@SPRINGFIELD... and what is wrong with Banat? Nakaminus man gud ka pre kay para nimo ang media is spreading lies labi na ug mo affect ni Mike -your patron. hehe.

[godwhacker]

A few more thoughts from CDN and how it affects the current leadership of Mike.

Editorial
Temper, tantrum


Cebu Daily News
First Posted 16:27:00 12/15/2008
Filed Under: Politics, Local authorities, Government

What does one make of this latest tantrum of Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña, who threatened to drop the consultants of the Asian Development Bank (ADB) for pointing out the absence of a master plan for the South Road Properties (SRP)?

For allies of the Cebu City mayor, Osmeña’s statement is a warning at best for the consultants to come on board the mayor’s development plan and make the adjustments or else be dropped in favor of local consultants who are more or less pliable and willing to accommodate the local administration’s parameters for the 300-hectare reclamation site.

For Osmeña critics, the mayor’s diatribe may give impetus to their claims that the Cebu City government is bartering the future of the SRP and the city in general by hawking lots to any interested buyer with enough cash to pay upfront so they can settle the enormous billion-peso loan obtained from the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA).

Threat or not, Osmeña’s verbal tirade against the ADB consultants who were tapped to assist in conducting a feasibility study on the SRP may only serve to turn off not only ADB but similar international financing institutions otherwise keen on granting loans to finance the construction of support facilities for the reclamation site.

Likely, the mayor was provoked by an earlier report that quoted JICA representative Jun Watanabe as saying that he found it unacceptable that the SRP had no master plan. Cebu City Planning and Development Coordinator Paul Villarete hastily clarified that Watanabe did not issue the statement but “only voiced concern” that the ongoing SRP developments strayed from the original proposal for the JICA loan.

These foreign consultants certainly don’t have any problem being dropped by Osmeña, since they’re not being paid by the Cebu City government. The pressure is definitely on Cebu City officials, particularly Osmeña, who is on his last term.

It's no surprise that the mayor got all hot and bothered due to fears that the statements of the consultants would carry weight with the ADB and other prospective banks. But his temper tantrum is uncalled for.

The foreign consultants cannot be expected to draw up their proposals and other technical presentations on the SRP based on their readings of the mayor’s mind where, it seems, the ultimate master plan for the reclamation lot is kept hidden under lock and key.

Whether they were told upfront by Cebu City officials about the new SRP arrangement drawn up by the mayor, whose one-man rule of the city government is a fact they probably missed out on, one cannot be certain.

In justifying his position not to have a master plan for the SRP, Osmeña pointed to the Mandaue reclamation project as proof. However the Mandaue City reclamation project is nothing more than a 60-40 revenue arrangement between the Mandaue City government and a Manila-based construction firm.

The SRP is a whole lot bigger and certainly a different story. Whatever happens though, it is the mayor’s so-called City Hall management team that is expected to do damage control. So far, they have to do a better job putting out the brush fires lest this whole SRP deal blows up in their faces.



I like the emphasis on the words, "one man rule". Again per SPRINGFIELD, this is not to be believed because these are all haka-hakas and media's propensity to tell lies to the public. You can draw your conclusions later but YOU ARE HEREBY WARNED.

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And here is from THEFREEMAN (owned by the Gullases?) A comment from a lone writer, BTW, unlike the two articles above which were written by an editorial board this one is from a single author. Hence,

SRP in the eyes of a concerned citizen
FULL DISCLOSURE By Fidel O. Abalos Updated December 15, 2008 12:00 AM

My last Monday’s column about the South Road Properties (SRP) elicited several reactions and comments. While some reactors expressed their unequivocal support to the project, others have vehemently objected to it. However, one of those reactions/comments was very objective and balanced. To my opinion, though some concerns are pinpointed to the proponents and managers of the project, this reaction from Mr. Richard Stone is totally devoid of biases. Though quite lengthy, it deserves every square millimeter of space in this column. His reaction (in italics) follows:

“I generally appreciate your thoughtful articles on items of local and national interest, and the piece today was no exception. What I find amusing is the concept of reclamation, clearly a useful one as you point out for examples in Macau, Hong Kong, and elsewhere, seems somehow a failure here. True, it is only a failure so far, and may yet succeed, but what is the problem?

Clearly there are two distinct problems: First, the utilities are not available. But that is really just a symptom of the second problem, which is that the whole project, as “completed” was poorly conceived.

Saying that the project was poorly conceived is not to condemn the concept, entirely. The issue is that such a project, in modern times, must look a lot like a turn-key development, so that the buyer simply builds the project and the utilities are there, etc. That is not the case here, as you point out. What is missing is a developer, a coordinator of the entire project, someone who not only is responsible for building it, but essentially responsible for making sure that the infrastructure (yes, that word again) is in place, ready to serve the tenant or owner.

Instead we have the City, with its feckless management and continuing incoherence, as well as its demonstrated contempt for the judicial process, and good governance, trying to manage the show and acting as the developer. That is worse than impossible. No one in their right mind would want the City as a business partner. The City is run by one person, possibly as a front for other undisclosed interests, a person who has compelled members of other branches of City government to act in ways that benefit him (and his party) at the expense of, and contrary to, the interests of their constituents. It is an institutionalized and admitted conflict of interest on the grandest possible scale. And this is the managing partner of the enterprise.

In terms of contempt for the judicial process, consider that when ordered to pay its just and adjudicated debts the City attempts to strong-arm the banks into not paying. In any project like this one, with its size and complexity, disputes will arise, and some of them will be difficult to resolve in the best of circumstances. And the City routinely ignores the law. Is this a partner you would want? Or consider that building permits are refused, or granted, on the basis of political issues, and at the whim of the Mayor. Is that a partner you would want?

If the City genuinely wants to succeed the answer seems relatively straightforward: Engage a real and experienced real estate developer to manage the project, and pay the developer properly. Make sure that all payments go to the proper parties. Make sure that there is no hidden graft or improper payment. Use an escrow for all payments. Set up an arbitration process for disputes. There are dozens, if not hundreds of large firms who could be induced to manage such a project, at great benefit to the City.

There is no reason to suspect, for a moment, that the City has a single manager capable of dealing with a project of this magnitude, in any capacity. There is of course also some doubt whether the SRP was ever a very good idea, let alone whether it is viable now. But the process of engaging a developer will lead to answers on those issues. Another approach might be to engage an international accounting and law firm to determine the financial aspects of the matter: how much should the lots be sold for, and how should the purchases and leases be structured?

There is a lot more involved than finding a group that says it will buy a lot. That strikes me as odd and suspicious, and perhaps the result of the City doing all it can to show progress on the project. And somewhere in this there will be a reward to someone. As you note in the caption: Full Disclosure. I doubt it. The City has no business in real estate development.”

Clearly, Mr. Richard Stone is emphasizing, among others, the issues on utilities, management of the project, financial viability at present and above all, transparency. While we take the aforementioned opinion as his, it can’t be denied that there could be thousands of Richard Stones who exactly bear the same kind and amount of sentiments. However, for coming forward and be heard, my deepest appreciation and immeasurable gratitude to Mr. Richard Stone.

On the other hand, while we were too preoccupied in giving credit to Mr. Richard Stone’s reaction, SRP’s saga has interestingly moved on and taken a new twist. Much to Mr. Richard Stone’s possible dismay, the Provincial Capitol (another local government unit) is expressing its interest on the 50-hectare lot (via Swiss Challenge) Filinvest had proposed to develop. Due to the ongoing and much publicized conflict between the city and capitol, some Cebuanos viewed the proposal as more of an offer to destruct rather than to construct.

In this proposal of capitol, we can surmise at least three possibilities. First, that they are serious in their development efforts elsewhere in the city and to prove it strongly, they will take to task the development of SRP, the project their main nemesis so profoundly loved to develop. This offer, in a way, validates their earnest desire to develop “Ciudad” and other capitol-owned prime lots in the city. Secondly, that they will be able to compel the city to be really transparent in their deals with prospective investors. Thirdly, that they simply would like to get even. Which simply means, no development in SRP if capitol’s development permits elsewhere are not approved.

Indeed, having no personal knowledge on their activities, we can only surmise on countless of possibilities. Whatever the truths are, only capitol insiders would know. However, with all these known and apparent biases against the city, any proposal from capitol will always be viewed with immeasurable skepticism. Straightforwardly put, I would rather go with Mr. Richard Stone’s call for transparency, his demands for a current evaluation of SRP’s financial viability and the possible management of the project of knowledgeable and experienced real estate developer.

For your comments and suggestions, please email to foabalos@yahoo.com.


I like the line "The city is run by one person". You can hear comments of this same tone also from the broadcast media and of course again and again, the question is how does this relates to the current leadership of Mike?

May I caution you again my dear readers to be very careful in believing this as these are just haka-hakas per our good friend SPRINGFIELD.

Kadyot lang kay mangita ko ug comments sa Banat. hehe.

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i like this quote from Ira Chaleff:

"A good leader develops good followers not only to advance a group agenda but to help followers emerge as leaders."

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Hehe. bro usapa nang imong sentido kumon kay kumon na kaayo na nimo nga excuse. Siguro ikaw ang natulog o gidaman kay nag cite lang ko ug mga sources nga at least dunay legitemacy kay sa imong personal lang nga opinyon o opinyon sa mga way klaro basta lang maka-ingon nga o kaila ko anang Mike okay na sya.

Well it just so happens that I do but then COMMONSENSE plays an integral part . Unsay mahimo nimo if mao gyud na ? Its not an EXCUSE , its just the way it is no matter if you like it or not . BTW ... your SOURCES doesnt justify any LEGITIMACY . Its not even the voice of the people , its the voice of a lone person who took advantage of the leverage in propagating their PROPAGANDAS .

At least bro I am open to opinions from other parties who have their own reservations about Mike and based on their long time experience and being in the media duna sad na silay mga nahibal-an nganong naka-ingon sila ina. But para nimo haka-haka raman kaha so there's nothing to debate and argue here.

Ok aron di magsakit dughan nimo sa mga " RELIABLE SOURCES " nimo ... lets make it , providing news / reports / articles that are HALF BAKED . What if mo post sad ko ug articles that praises RAMA also ? WOuld that change your point of view bahalag TABLOID na siya gikan ?

Di man gani ka prove nga dili puppet si Mike kay ug nimo pa there's no need for you to prove. Usapa nalang nang imong sentido common kay ikaw ra man kahay convincing in your own closed world. hehe.

Naa nimo ang weight and ikaw ang nangusog na PUPPET siya , ita your duty and mission to prove it otherwise you are part of the MEDIA who reports HALF BAKED news , well make that HAKA HAKA times two .

... and what is wrong with Banat? Nakaminus man gud ka pre kay para nimo ang media is spreading lies labi na ug mo affect ni Mike -your patron. hehe.

See ... you tagged me as a FANATIC of RAMA since you assumed that he is my PATRON . Who is your source of that ? BANAT ? LMFAO !

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I would rather say a " reminder " rather of arguments since I reacted to the notion that you and GODWHACKER are so firm with your sentiments though it is respected , naay kuwang which is the justification . The justification first came out by emphasizing MEDIA ... it was not actually MEDIA by core but also from personal point of views from te individual editors . To make it short , more profound ... HAKA-HAKA , BADMOUTHING and PROPAGANDA . The worst part is lately you guys decided to imply that " HUWATON " lang nato which is by nature ang inyohang pagka CERTAIN na UNCERTAIN na diay .

You sure ? If people are not CERTAIN , people cant FOCUS , nothing can be ACHIEVED .
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What is the correlation between Certain, Focus and achievement? NONE! I just dont understand why
you keep on connecting and making up stuff. There is always uncertainty, it doest mean people cant focus, they can also focus, they can or cannot achieve. That is the uncertainty, because if there are
other certainty then it would still result to some uncertainty.

In short, if not all is certain , then everything is uncertain.
U either get all or nothing. Simple nagyud kaayo ni nga logic, syaro dili masabtan.

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I would like to know how you associated CERTAINTY to being a PUPPET . I didnt . I was talking about CERTAINTY about you .[/QUOTE]

It is u who associated this...not me....hehehehe u should know.....u started it.

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LOL ... dont twist it . I was talking about you and GODWHAKCER as a PERSON , not with the SUBJECT which is TOMAS nd MIKE . To top it off ... I have no DOUBTS ... so actually I have my own lane and its you who are about to cross it and gets to align with it . In your previous replies , its full of DOUBT . You only said what you feel but with no substance at all .[/QUOTE]

I am twisting it for u to understand. Of course u hv ur own opinion, as we do have our own.
And I feel that u are talking gibberish. And that u have to stduy more and more....

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What is the correlation between Certain, Focus and achievement? NONE! I just dont understand why

Of course ... that is how you ESTABLISH something . These words " CERTAIN , FOCUS and ACHIEVEMENT " are considered as FOUNDATIONS . That is specially of we are talking about LEADERSHIP . Were you a LEADER before ? If not then I understand why you got lost .

you keep on connecting and making up stuff. There is always uncertainty, it doest mean people cant focus, they can also focus, they can or cannot achieve. That is the uncertainty, because if there are
other certainty then it would still result to some uncertainty.

LOL ... do you know what you are talking about ? Wala naka sa lane nimo , kung sa basketball pa ga cge ka ug crossover at 100 MPH . To spponfeed you na lang , think of the word SUCCESS . If nothing comes in mind let me know in your next reply .

In short, if not all is certain , then everything is uncertain.
U either get all or nothing. Simple nagyud kaayo ni nga logic, syaro dili masabtan.

But you dont stop there . You have to make that UNCERTAINTY to CERTAINTY otherwise you will be stucked and I know you dont want that .

It is u who associated this...not me....hehehehe u should know.....u started it.

So you agree with me about your UNCERTAINTIES ? Do you want me to show you the CERTAINTIES ?

I am twisting it for u to understand. Of course u hv ur own opinion, as we do have our own.
And I feel that u are talking gibberish. And that u have to stduy more and more....

LOL .... if I am GIBBERISH , I wont obviously comprehend you since you TWISTED it . Klaruha na 'dong lol .

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Why not ? Specially if its owned by the GARCIAS ? Wake up lage !!

Why dont you post another one owned by the GULLAS's also ?

LOL ... like I said that is not SUNSTAR ... and even if its SUNSTAR who would really cared ? That articale came only from a mind of a single person , and that is the writer and could be the editor . SUNSTAR was only a tool and they think it is to their advantage because people relies on these kind of information . Well dili tanan and its so sad to say ang latter are those who really THINKS .

Newspapers are neutral and very direct and informative....that is why SunStar is the most popular and sold out newspaper in Cebu City. They are not only for the people of Cebu but also for its improvement and future benefit. SunStar is the most trusted Newspaper in Cebu.

The implication of Springfield is without merit and plain nuisance. If he thinks like that , he also implicates that other newspapers also sides w/ other politicians, and specifically also sides w/ Tomas
or Mike. This will also mean that the other newspapers reports is one-sided and bias.

Well......u should be the one to wake up....stop taking sleeping pills....please.

[Raikage]

i like this quote from Ira Chaleff:

"A good leader develops good followers not only to advance a group agenda but to help followers emerge as leaders."

Thank you for this quote. I sure hope this happened here in cebu.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@RAIKAGE ....

LMFAO .... Think , think and think ! You were using the MEDIA as a source of your claims . That is not the media , sa uulitin , its the lone voice of an EDITORIAL that so happens that hates TOMAS guts . Now what if mo post lage mo ug ARTICLES that are also full of PRAISES to MIKE RAMA ? WOUld that change your POV's ? Lastly ... your rumors about me doesnt count in . I never did , its just that it choked you without even soving it down your throat .

BTW ... that serves you a warning , dont use OVERSIZED FONTS .