A catholic priest who saw heaven, hell & purgatory. A true death experience

[bcasabee]

Seriously, this doesn't apply to the story as the story suggest not near death(e.g. comatose) but death. People issued death certificates are dead including brain dead (You know, brain needs oxygen, no blood flow means no oxygen, brain suffocates and eventually ceased to function, including dreaming functions and thats real science). I am not saying I believe in the story. I can only say that the author has the "bragging right" for he has returned from death (literally). I am not close to alternative explanations but it better be more logical than the delirium theory.

It's called near death delirium. If you're not brain dead yet it means your mind is capable of rendering far out thoughts in this panicked and traumatic state. In the case of thinking that you're about to die, your mind makes assumptions about what you'll see on the other end. i.e. heaven, hell, god and the likes. And the experience that god (god in your dream) knows so much about you is because it's your mind reminding you of all your past memories in your life and it is manifested in this being in your dream so the details are next to flawless.

search the net for "myths of near death experiences". i began doubting the validity of these claims way back since highschool. it is only recently that i discovered other people have also questioned this and brain doctors actually conducted studies on these things.

nevertheless, it has never failed to let people cash in on this experience. why does everyone believe? it's because we fear death and want to convince ourselves that there is something beyond the proverbial "end".

[YellowSubmarine]

doesn't matter if CNN ang source. Near death experience is as subjective as the stigmata.

hehe.. agree.. it's very subjective

[Raikage]

It does not matter if the story is true.

The message is clear, repent!

Different people different experiences....As long as the priest made a difference in the lives of people and made them hopeful and brought them closer to God, speciailly bringing them back to God. Cz in the US wala nay God.

[baliguat]

ang ilang(U.S) kwarta kay naa may "In God we trust".

[tokidoki_v2.1]

Seriously, this doesn't apply to the story as the story suggest not near death(e.g. comatose) but death. People issued death certificates are dead including brain dead (You know, brain needs oxygen, no blood flow means no oxygen, brain suffocates and eventually ceased to function, including dreaming functions and thats real science). I am not saying I believe in the story. I can only say that the author has the "bragging right" for he has returned from death (literally). I am not close to alternative explanations but it better be more logical than the delirium theory.

extremely lowered heart rate and brain activity can be mistaken as death and it DOES happen a lot. I still count this as near death because he's back isn't he? Diha nakomotuo if patay siya for 3 days nya nibuhi ug balik (sounds familiar?).

besides, the story of seeing his body going to the morgue was seen on his way back to life. but there is no account of the other people involved in this. The name of the hospital is not mentioned. The name of the doctor is not mentioned. Even the place of the accident is not mentioned. And to make his story more conveniently unquestionable, he picked a place that virtually NONE of us are aware of.

This doesn't follow the pattern of objective story telling as is the case of news articles. It does, however, follow the pattern of a chain letter.

Furthermore, there appears to be some sort of subtle racial slur implication on the emphasis that the assailant was intoxicated from a HINDU Festival. Tsk tsk tsk....

Update:

I found this on google. And after reading it i found myself swearing every word known in the Philippine society.

This is how the story ends:

After you read this, kindly forward to people you know who you think do not believe
that there is no Hell and Purgatory.

[EdzzTander]

sakto ka bosing ang pag post pa gyud sa threadstarter kay walay source,
I'm beginning to wonder? unsa on nalang to ubang tinu-uhan naa sad kaha to silay laing langit?
pro pra nako bisag unsa ta og tinu-ohan I believe in a simple rule
ang golden rule
Ethic of reciprocity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tara ang source aii..

www.stmarymacclenny.com/fatherJstory.htm
< http://www.stmarymacclenny.com/fatherJstory.htm >

[cottonmouth]

No cause to wonder. Isn't that "purgatory" is the gist of the roman catholic faith. They became rich and famous because of that "place".

"Oh you sinners of this world, make your offerings bigger or else you'll be stuck in the purgatory!" That was the best marketing ploy ever made until ****** came. Crap!

[Raikage]

ang ilang(U.S) kwarta kay naa may "In God we trust".

Thats the big irony.....Give to Caesar what is for Caesar and to God what is due to him....

When u go there.....there are a lot of signs....that says

Warning : there is no God.... If u've been to US...

[bcasabee]

Well, if the argument is about whether the story is authentic or not, I'm hands off. It could be a chain letter though from some spammers. But if the argument is about what happens with a dead (within 1-3 hours) man's brain is completely a different story. Logically, if the brain is at extremely low activity (kung sa computer pa, nag hibernate), then delirium can easily be rolled out since it is the opposite of extremely low brain activity, isn't it? I also know that extremely low heart rate can be achieved as done by stunt men and magicians.
But for the sake of argument, what if the man was really dead, as in brain dead? Then two hypothetical things that can happen either, he will ceased to exist entirely or an entity in a form of pure consciousness will emerge. Which is which is up to you. Oh, another scenario is that, his consciousness can join his corporeal body and live again, but that can only be possible if the second scenario will hold true.

extremely lowered heart rate and brain activity can be mistaken as death and it DOES happen a lot. I still count this as near death because he's back isn't he? Diha nakomotuo if patay siya for 3 days nya nibuhi ug balik (sounds familiar?).

besides, the story of seeing his body going to the morgue was seen on his way back to life. but there is no account of the other people involved in this. The name of the hospital is not mentioned. The name of the doctor is not mentioned. Even the place of the accident is not mentioned. And to make his story more conveniently unquestionable, he picked a place that virtually NONE of us are aware of.

This doesn't follow the pattern of objective story telling as is the case of news articles. It does, however, follow the pattern of a chain letter.

Furthermore, there appears to be some sort of subtle racial slur implication on the emphasis that the assailant was intoxicated from a HINDU Festival. Tsk tsk tsk....

Update:

I found this on google. And after reading it i found myself swearing every word known in the Philippine society.

This is how the story ends:

[v2s13]

Undang mo ani story2x oi. hehehe tan aw mo national geographic and discovery channel mas daghan pa mo ka kat-unan with matching explanations and evidences. Nindot to ila gi feature ka2 spirit out of the body experience. Its all in the brain, ila na gi explain tanan ma unsa a2 brain if kuwang blood supply. Dako pa sad au na part sa brain na2 wla nahibaw an sa mga doctors/scientist rn kng unsa purpose ani nila.