Originally Posted by munzter666
whats wrong with these type of faithfuls?? pataka lang ug BARK.
read my post again...those MEN, are not the likes of ME.
was referring to your BIBLE authors/ghost writers. gets?
katong imong gi pang yawit kabahin sa christmas...of pagan origins. ever wondered why JC's magic-magic got so overrated?? ever considered those stories got pagan origins too.
and puhhhlease, its not JC's fault y'know...its them followers who exaggerates much.hahaha
like YOU.
using the baybul to discredit the Quran...com'on, get real. dont be a douche.
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Thread: Second Look on Islam
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11-25-2008, 04:42 PM #651
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11-25-2008, 04:44 PM #652 Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0
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11-25-2008, 04:53 PM #653C.I.A.
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huh? si Muhammad nang naa sa Deutoronomy 18? toinks! Originally Posted by Malic
Sir dili man ako ang nagsulti nga corrupted na ang bible. Naa bay bible scholar nga na produce ang ADD? wala noh? so dependent kaau mo sa Scholars sa obang denominations. Anyways those scholars admitted that there are insertions and corruptions in the bible.
wala na ma corrupt ang Qur'an.
ah so you are using the bible to prove that the bibe is True. Nice
But can i ask for a verse that says that the bible(kanang compiled bible ha) is the word of God. Remember during the Old testament days till Jesus wala pay bible like what you have now ni Exist,so show me a verse that says that the bible is the word of God.
you mean old testament verses being manipulated to make it appear that it relates to Jesus? Yes sir daghan kaau na sa inyong theolgoy.
tan-awa ra gud ng imong verses diha,dili man gani Immanuel ang name ni Jesus nya imo ng ipugos nga it is about Jesus.
LOLz,by the way kanang verses sa imong psalms about kana ni David oi,naunsa.hehe. kato si David Warrior kato then kanang iyang gi pang sulti diha sa Psalms iya katong mga kaagi.
haha. Sir i think katong mga reliable nga mga Theologians ug bible scholars mo disagree nimo anang prophesy kunuhay ni Paul.
kinsang propetaha ang mo saksi sa pagka propeta ni Muhammad?
basaha ng Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you(MOSES) from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).
hmm,i know you will disagree. hehe, sigurado ko nga mo sulti ka nga ang Deut. 18:18-19 is about kang Jesus. but more studies will show that this verses could not be attritbuted to Jesus.
atong ibutang ang verse ha kung si Muhammad ba jud ni:
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
si Muhammad na? kinsa may saksi ni Muhammad nga siya na? mangangkon pud ai...
awa akong saksi ha si John nga usa ka apostol...awa ang iyang gisuwat:
Joh 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Joh 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
muingon napud ka nga corrupt na unya inyo ra jud ang dili?ngeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
ngangkon man si Muhammad!LOL!
toinks! kaagi kuno ni David...hahahahaha!LOLz,by the way kanang verses sa imong psalms about kana ni David oi,naunsa.hehe. kato si David Warrior kato then kanang iyang gi pang sulti diha sa Psalms iya katong mga kaagi.
sa ato pa gibuslutan diay ang kamot ug tiil ni David?
akong balikon ang verse ha:
Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psa 22:17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psa 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
nahitabo diay nang David? awa ang nahitabo ni Jesus Christ ha:
Mat 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
nakabasa ka anang red? gi prophesy na kana sa mga prophet oi...
dia pa ang mga verses oh:
Mar 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.
Luk 23:33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
see? ang proof nga si Cristo jud na itaas lang ang verse:
Psa 22:6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
nahitabo kana ni Cristo sa dihang gilansang siya sa krus...ari ta sa chapter 7-8 ha:
Psa 22:7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
Psa 22:8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
mao nay gidangatan ni Cristo kadtong naa siya sa krus...giinsulto siya sa mga tawo awa ha:
Mat 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
Mat 27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
see?
nagkasinabot lagi ang OT ug ang NT? nya kaning Quran kinsa may musuporta ani?
hmmmmm......
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11-25-2008, 05:03 PM #654C.I.A.
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kinsa laging propetaha ang mu 2nd the motion aning Muhammad lagi? wala jud kay maipakita nako BISAN USA? Originally Posted by Malic
hehe,pagka kuwang jud.
Ang tawag ana sir is External witness.
Lisod man nga gamiton nimo ang bible to prove that Jesus is the greatest. Of course bible gud na so para anang libroha si Jesus jud ang greatest.
Sayun ra man pag quote sa quran just to prove nga si Muhammad ang greatest. So external witness,like the one i showed you, is crucial pod sir.
and by the way dont use the bible as a criteria to disprove Muhammad's status as the greatest Prophet kay lahi man ng bible ug Qur'an sir.
ngangkon pud ka sa Deut 18 nga mao to si Muhammad...toinks!
FYI lang noh, ang bible is a compilation of books from different prophets, evangelists, apostles in different times. mao nay nakanindot sa bible kay bisan pila ka centuries na ang gilay on sa mga propeta ngadto sa mga apostoles, nagkasinabot gihapon sila...
ang Quran kinsa may musuporta ana? gasolo raman na wala may mudepensang propeta sa Ginoo ana...
hmmmm...
toinks! imo mang i compare ang husgado sa kalibutan ug husgado sa Ginoo...kung maka prove ka sir nga gibuhat buhat ra ng libro nga quran ni Muhammad mo apil ko nimo.
so agree ka nga corrupt na. Kini ra bang DATA nga makitaan ug corrupt nga mga details lisod na ra ba ni toho-an sa husgado. Lisod na ni maka sulod as proof.
but my words will not pass away? LOLZ,nawagtang na man gani ang original bible nya dili mo pass away. Sir if the bible is really the word of God,God should have with all His power protected it from being lost,iya gud ng WORD.
unsay nawala ang original bible? so buot nimong ipasabot nawala na jud ang pulong sa Ginoo sa una unya ang nipuli ang Quran?
ngek!
600AD ra nitunga wala pa jud suporta sa mga propeta nga mu auntheticate aning Quran unya maoy tanood?
you make me laugh...
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11-25-2008, 05:13 PM #655C.I.A.
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relax lang bai ang imong blood pressure basin musaka na... Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0
ikaw professional man kaha ka nya dili man lagi ka kamao musukit sukit? mu amen ra diay ka dretso sa imong madunggan?
aw imo pud na walay but anay...
unya kung maghimo kag thesis dili diay na nimo depensaan? muana ra diay imong instructor "cge imo pud na respetaay lang"...kung ing ana imong istructor ingna ko kay atong duklon...ang purpose anang thesis pre para kahimo ka ug imo conclusion. kanang imo dili mana imoha gikan. KINOPYA mana nimo sa uban. Mao gani di ko mahlig mag-quote anang bibliya nimo kai di ko ganahan magsalig ana.
aw kalye talk bitaw ngano man diay? pa braytay diay ni diri sa istorya? ngek!Advice lang nako nimo pre tiwasa imong pagskwela. Kai mao ra nay nakat-onan nimo. Kalye-talk. Puro lang ka pabulhot diha nya binastosay. Walay grado walay delikadesa! Layo ra kaayo na sa imong giplabas sa imong bibliya pero duol ra kaayo na sa example sa inyo dako-dako. Sige lang pangita ug gubot.
gubot ba gud akong tuyo nga sharing raman ni...dili paka ana naay mu oppose sa inyong pagtuo para mulutaw jud ang tanood? ang gusto diay ninyo ang mga tawo musabat ra sa inyong isulti?
laina ko pre kay lisod ko nimo patuuhon...
respetuay bitaw...unsa diay tan aw nimo nako diri wala ko murespeto? nangutana rako pre...sharing ra ni pre...walang personalan diri pre...kung unsay inyong pagtuo wala koy labot ninyo...Dili na tarong na example ang instructor ug estudyante pre kai puro na naa sa skwelahan. Kita mga lahi ug tinuhuan. Ayaw mi ingna na di na pwede magrespetohay kai stinroyaan na sa mga baboy ug utok. Basin imo instructor utro pud siguro baboy ug utok. Basin nalimot siya kita nagbayad sa iya sweldo so he should STFU ang know his role.
ayaw lang kainit imong ulo pre kay lisod na kaayo basin kabuhion ka...hehehehehe!
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11-25-2008, 05:22 PM #656Elite Member
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Aw, kung mao na imo tuyo pre taronga pud na pagtubag silang Malic kai wala baya mi naginsultuhay diri. Kung naai pangutana tubaga ba. walay side comment na magpaubos sa tao. Kai mga "tao" man kaha ta? Originally Posted by Pein
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11-25-2008, 05:33 PM #657C.I.A.
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aw dili man pud gyud malikayan nga maka side comment bah...bawal ba gud na diri ang mu side comment, mura mag dili siguro...natural raman siguro nang maka side comment ka labi na kung tan aw nimo binugo na jud kaayo...bisan ikaw mu side comment man gani ka... Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0
natural ra na bai kung dili ka ganahan sa akong mga side comments i ignore lang na...tan awa lang ang akong gitubag...matod pa nimo "pang kalye", pang kalye bitaw pero tan awa lang kung wala ba sa punto...
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11-25-2008, 05:44 PM #658Elite Member
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ikaw baya nagsugod. gibadlong raka. kanang side comment nako pre sa mga membro naman na diri na naka sweto na sa batasan ug style nila ug sweto2x pud sila gamay nako. Kana si malic di ko mo side comment kaayo ana niya kai bago2x pa ko kita ana niya. kanang side comment pud nako para man sad na sa mangaway. besides, walay mabugo diri bai kung imo tudluan. Originally Posted by Pein
aw dili man pud gyud malikayan nga maka side comment bah...bawal ba gud na diri ang mu side comment, mura mag dili siguro...natural raman siguro nang maka side comment ka labi na kung tan aw nimo binugo na jud kaayo...bisan ikaw mu side comment man gani ka...
natural ra na bai kung dili ka ganahan sa akong mga side comments i ignore lang na...tan awa lang ang akong gitubag...matod pa nimo "pang kalye", pang kalye bitaw pero tan awa lang kung wala ba sa punto...
Anyway, OT na ni. Back on topic.
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11-25-2008, 05:44 PM #659Junior Member
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now you're just contradicting yourself by calling mi dai Originally Posted by Pein
aw imo pud nang pagsabot wala may pugsanay diri...sharing raman ni dai mao bitaw naay forum para magsharing sa mga ideas...
kung mao nay pagtuo nimo dai imo pud na...dai lang akong tawag nimo kay dili man taka sis...
see? in the quote above you said bro. toinks Originally Posted by Pein
wala man ko makig debate niya bro nangutana raman ko. para pud ba makahibaw ta sa tinuohang Islam...kay kung tinuod nang ilang tinuohan aw sunod gud ta kung unsay maayo(in the sight of God)...
you even said sunod ta sa unsay maayo, in the sight of God. do you think mocking people with a different belief than you is maayo in the sight of God?
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11-25-2008, 06:21 PM #660C.I.A.
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mura mag mas bag o paka nga member diri kesa kay Malic...aw basin lain ni nimo nga account... Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.0
ayaw lang nanumbalinga nang akong side comment kung dili ka ganahan kay ako pud na...stick lang sa topic...
aw kung mao nay pagsabot nimo sa akong gibuhat aw imo pud na...you even said sunod ta sa unsay maayo, in the sight of God. do you think mocking people with a different belief than you is maayo in the sight of God?
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