Legalize Abortion?

[septemberboy]

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mga bro dghan class ang abortion..ang not accepted kanang alive and kicking..

[cottonmouth]

for me it should not be legalized..co'z these fetuses have already life...the sperm and the ovum have already met..to form a life..that, the beauty of life..all creation the living and the non-living things here on earth have there own purpose...man created by god to rule over his creations..we must take good care of it..bec he has the powwer to take it back from us...for example, in our nature..the floods,typhoon,etc.

Remember not all peoples of this country shared your religious beliefs. Not all parents will experience the same dilemma. That is why laws should be emphirical and not rely on conjenctures. Laws of the land should not only address the likings of certain religious groups. It should objectively address the needs of its constituents.

[mannyamador]

Remember not all peoples of this country shared your religious beliefs.

That's irrelevant. Respect for the sanctity of life cuts across religious boundaries. The law protects human beings. Science has clearly shown that the unborn are human beings form the moment of conception. And the Philippine Constitution recognizes that fact.

Abortion isn't evil because the Church says so. Rather, the Church says abortion is evil because abortion is objectively evil.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

I dont think its irrelevant. Although sanctity of life is beyond religious boundaries, I must point out that in some culture there is of course the ladder where one life is more- for lack of better term I shall the use the term "important" than the other.

There are still some cultures that considers female to be the second to the male ***. Do you know that in Islamic law a testimony of ONE MAN is consider to be more reliable compare to two testimonies given by two WOMEN.

since we have not agreed not when does life does begin... Although philippine law consider life begins at conception, our law states that a baby that is born prematurely and dies within 24 hours after its delivery is not consider born or rather to have existed at all. So no death certificate is necessary.

In my opinion abortion be done during the first trimester, since the "quickening" or the movement of the fetus can already be felt beyond that time. This is of course is just my opinion of when does life begins which im not imposing on you guys to believe.

Lets us not be so "religious". Lets not impose our religion to others. If its a moral issue to you then its your issue. In the long run, dont worry about the persons that aborted their babies, you are not the one who will answer for her soul. So who would like to throw the first stone?

We can only give people advice. We can only tell them their choices. Kahit nga illegal my-nag-papaabort pa rin.



In arguments about abortions or legalizing absolute divorce many people use the Church's doctrine and beliefs as the prime arguments. I would like to point out if not for lost souls that were excommunicated and sheeps that went astray We would still believe the world is flat and salvation can be bought.

Peace!

[horhe]

mas maau pa cguro ang birth control..e go nalang to nato ang reproductive health bill kaysa anang abortion...hehehe

[mannyamador]

I would like to point out if not for lost souls that were excommunicated and sheeps that went astray We would still believe the world is flat and salvation can be bought. Peace!

Let me point out that you haven't gotten your history straight. The Church NEVER had a doctrine that taught that the world was flat. Neither did it say that salvation could be bought (you don't understand what indulgences are). And I doubt if any of the major Christian sects ever taught those either. You are regurgitating myths. That gives us all the more reason why we should pay attention to what the Church teaches.


Another story on abortion...

Drama reflects truth of abortion clinic activities
Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 11/20/2008 7:00:00 AMBookmark and Share

A new film publicizes the trauma of a baby born alive in a Florida abortion clinic, and the responses of those around the mother.

It's called 22weeks and runs only 25 minutes. Puerto Rican writer, director, and producer Angel Manuel Soto read accounts of what he thought to be a horrible crime considering federal law.

"There was a Born Alive Infant Protection Act that was passed in 2002," he notes, "and according to this story, that law was not executed."

22weeks tells the real story of a woman having a live baby during an abortion, and it is a documented event that took place at the EPOC Clinic of Orlando Women's Center. She was locked in a bathroom crying for help when the baby was born. She was ignored even though the staff could see the baby moving. She trapped herself in the bathroom until police could arrive.

Soto recognizes that abortion is legal -- but..."as she exercised the right to do something, ...her other rights were denied -- and so were the baby's," he states.

The film is a drama rather than a documentary, and is showing in some theatres and on college campuses so far. It also will be shown in Washington, DC, in January -- on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

According to Soto, the actual mother depicted in the film as previewed it, approves of it, and considers it accurate and professionally done.

Pro-life activist Jill Stanek tells WorldNetDaily that some people just are not going to believe this happened. "This is not something that doesn't happen," she said. "It's not isolated." Stanek is the Chicago nurse who blew the whistle on a hospital when she discovered babies who were being aborted alive were shelved to die in a soiled utility room.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

ah ok.. hahaha.. nagkamali history hehehe... the Church did not say the world was flat... but did excommunicate galileo for his stand that the earth revolves around the sun, it was only in 1992 that the Church did admit that Galileo was right. I thought the reason Martin Luther posted the 95 Theses is about selling of indulgences.. Im sorry.

[mannyamador]

ah ok.. hahaha.. nagkamali history hehehe... the Church did not say the world was flat... but did excommunicate galileo for his stand that the earth revolves around the sun, it was only in 1992 that the Church did admit that Galileo was right. I thought the reason Martin Luther posted the 95 Theses is about selling of indulgences.. Im sorry.

Sorry too, but I have to correct you again.

Galileo was NOT excommunicated. Galileo got into trouble because 1) he insulted the Pope; 2) he insisted his theory was a proven fact even though he could NOT actually prove it at the time and could not refute Aristotle's objection to heliocentrism; 3) he effectively claimed that eh had the personal authority to interpret scripture (which he clearly did not).

The Galileo affair had nothing to do with Church doctrine of papal infallibility. The Church has NEVER had a doctrine on astronomy and the Pope never made an ex cathedra infallible statement on the matter.

Since this off-topic, let me just quote a short blog article to clear up some points:

Galileo, Galileo…
Thursday, November 13, 2008
http://randomthoughtsmusings.blogspo...o-galileo.html

Contrary to the misconceptions of critics,

- the Roman Inquisition did not charge Galileo with heresy - it censured him with violating the 1616 injunction against supporting the then dubious Copernican theory. Big difference there. No, he was NOT excommunicated either.

- Galileo was neither imprisoned in a dungeon or tortured. As noted scientist and philosopher Alfred North Whitehead remarked, in an age that saw a large number of "witches" subjected to torture and execution by Protestants in New England, "the worst that happened to the men of science was that Galileo suffered an honorable detention and a mild reproof.". He was placed under house arrest, under secure and comfortable circumstances, all the better for his own protection from extremists.

- At the time, Galileo could not offer proof of his theory. Cardinal Bellarmine of the then Holy Office said, had Galileo been able to offer scientific proof, “.. then it would be necessary to proceed with great caution in explaining the passages of Scripture which seemed contrary, and we would rather have to say that we did not understand them than to say that something was false which has been demonstrated… the heliocentric theory might indeed be correct, but until it was conclusively proven it should not be treated as fact since it differed from the current interpretation of the Bible." The trouble is that critics tend to view early 17th century with 21st century eyes.

- Although three of the ten cardinals who judged Galileo refused to sign the verdict, his works were eventually condemned. Anti-Catholics often assert that his conviction and later rehabilitation somehow disproves the doctrine of papal infallibility, but this is not the case, for the Pope never tried to make an infallible ruling concerning Galileo’s views. The Church has never claimed ordinary tribunals, such as the one that judged Galileo, to be infallible. Church tribunals have disciplinary and juridical authority only; neither they nor their decisions are infallible.

- Galileo actually taught that the sun was at the center of the universe, not just the solar system; later evidence showed that the sun also orbits the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Thus, both Galileo and his opponents were partly right and partly wrong. Galileo was right in asserting the mobility of the earth and wrong in asserting the immobility of the sun. His opponents were right in asserting the mobility of the sun and wrong in asserting the immobility of the earth. Had the Catholic Church rushed to endorse Galileo’s views - and there were many in the Church who were quite favorable to them - the Church would have embraced what modern science has disproved later.

[scytheb_2501]

bai, pgka emosyonal gd nimo..bcn m.weak imo heart m.daunan ka didto sa langit..praise d lord...wohoooo wohoooo

apollo quiboloy is lord..the name above all calendars...

here da pader speak through his sun..0922....

[dcuenco]

Abortion legalized or not is still AGAINST GOD's COMMAND. God's word never changes.