Legalize Abortion?

[TAMB0K]

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we should legalize abortion, if a person is not ready to be a parent so be it mao daghan kaayog naay katok sa utok karon kay wala maayo pag brought up sa mga irresponsableng mga ginikanan tungod kay wala na silay choice.

[goryo13]

The pro-abortion forces like to play with words, as usual. We all know what legalization means: to allow wider use or acceptance of abortion. It is about REMOVING restrictions, not the other way around.

The only time one can say restrictions are imposed is when NEW restrictions are added to PREVIOUSLY-LEGALIZED abortion. That is clearly NOT the case.

It is always in the interests of the state to have laws concerning the preservation of life. Leaving such decisions with families is not necessarily democratic. It is, in fact, more anarchistic.

If we follow the silly logic that life-and-death decisions should be with families in order to be more democratic, then we should apply the same standard to murder and other crimes against persons. That is stupid and absurd, hence the logic is also stupid and absurd.

true.

basin kung sa una pang panahon ni gi legalize wala siguro ta karun diris kalibotan.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

The pro-abortion forces like to play with words, as usual. We all know what legalization means: to allow wider use or acceptance of abortion. It is about REMOVING restrictions, not the other way around.

The only time one can say restrictions are imposed is when NEW restrictions are added to PREVIOUSLY-LEGALIZED abortion. That is clearly NOT the case.

It is always in the interests of the state to have laws concerning the preservation of life. Leaving such decisions with families is not necessarily democratic. It is, in fact, more anarchistic.

If we follow the silly logic that life-and-death decisions should be with families in order to be more democratic, then we should apply the same standard to murder and other crimes against persons. That is stupid and absurd, hence the logic is also stupid and absurd.

I dont think this is true... the basic concept why there are laws is to restricts men's actions. Humans are emotional being, laws are there so at least they will be ruled by logic... Mu-agree gyud ko ni cottonmouth.

I mean what do we get when abortion gets legalized?
*there will be "safe" abortion clinic, so mugamay ang number sa mga fetus na ipang-labay lang.
mugamay sad ang mga babay mamatay tungod sa pag-pa-abort.
*since there are abortion clinic, women will be given the proper guidance and options.. i mean pag-adto nila abortion clinic dili man dayon abort na... they will be presented with the choices and at least they will have the time to think things over... because they will not feel the pressure...

why it should be a family decision is bacause other people will not be bothered if wala ka mapapakian sa anak mo... which is not the same with murder...

honestly im more inclined on the feminist thought, women should have choices. lets not be narrowminded. legalizing abortion does not mean supporting the murders of innocent babies... it just mean that GIVE US THE CHANCE TO MAKE A CHOICE THAT WILL GREATLY AFFECT OUR LIFE...

and this is not about being a slut, whore or a bitch... being active in *** does not mean that, nor getting pregnant means one is an easy girl or having less control over their libido..

[cottonmouth]

It is always in the interests of the state to have laws concerning the preservation of life. Leaving such decisions with families is not necessarily democratic. It is, in fact, more anarchistic.

The right to choose is inherent to a free man. While it is true that the state will protect the unborn from unnecessary harm, however, the current law doesn't provide clear exemptions and rules in circumstances where legal abortion is meritable. Can't you see the bigger picture dude? If you @mannyamador will decide that you will raise a child with severe mental of physical defects, that is your choice. However, you should bear in mind that not all parents think like you do. If you think that other parents re sick for killing their sick unborn, from the other parent's point of view also, you are sick for letting your sick baby suffer furthermore. Bottom line is: CHOICE. You have been clouded by your religious preference but when it comes to laws, it must be objective.

@unsay_ngalan_nimo pointed it out clearly that once legal abortion becomes a law, it will follow that there will be professional clinic and doctors that will handle this cases. Thus, parents or women will be educated about the pros and cons of it. But now, we got nothing! That is why many made the wrong decision and have to suffer the consequences.

If we follow the silly logic that life-and-death decisions should be with families in order to be more democratic, then we should apply the same standard to murder and other crimes against persons. That is stupid and absurd, hence the logic is also stupid and absurd.

Of course the decision how to proceed with life always lies with the family after all they are the ones who enjoy or suffer the consequences. Your logic is stupid because you are attaching the word "murder" and "crime" to legal abortion as if it doesn't bring any benefit. You got the logical error.

Most of the time in real life we are presented with two choices: evil and lesser evil. Then you have to pick your poison. The fact of the matter here is "CHOICE", and that "SIN" thing, leave it to GOD for who are you to decide that the other person is eternally doomed. The laws must be objective.

[goryo13]

The right to choose is inherent to a free man. While it is true that the state will protect the unborn from unnecessary harm, however, the current law doesn't provide clear exemptions and rules in circumstances where legal abortion is meritable. Can't you see the bigger picture dude? If you @mannyamador will decide that you will raise a child with severe mental of physical defects, that is your choice. However, you should bear in mind that not all parents think like you do. If you think that other parents re sick for killing their sick unborn, from the other parent's point of view also, you are sick for letting your sick baby suffer furthermore. Bottom line is: CHOICE. You have been clouded by your religious preference but when it comes to laws, it must be objective.



Of course the decision how to proceed with life always lies with the family after all they are the ones who enjoy or suffer the consequences. Your logic is stupid because you are attaching the word "murder" and "crime" to legal abortion as if it doesn't bring any benefit. You got the logical error.

Most of the time in real life we are presented with two choices: evil and lesser evil. Then you have to pick your poison. The fact of the matter here is "CHOICE", and that "SIN" thing, leave it to GOD for who are you to decide that the other person is eternally doomed. The laws must be objective.

while we're at it, lets legalize killing all those retards roaming the city streets.. i bet most wouldn't want to bear the sight of these people with "physical defects." you can add more in the list if you feel "they" are burdensome to the family much less society

[cottonmouth]

while we're at it, lets legalize killing all those retards roaming the city streets.. i bet most wouldn't want to bear the sight of these people with "physical defects." you can add more in the list if you feel "they" are burdensome to the family much less society

If science and supporting law were available while they were in conception, they wouldn't have been roaming the city today.

Recently, science has now advance to the point where it can detect problems even before conception. The state should take advantage of that benefit and let the people decide.

[goryo13]

unsay naka irony ani kay naay death penalty para atong mga ruthless criminals nga nipatay og taw,etc. giwala.. while nay mga inosenteng bata whether they came by accident kay nagpalami or by any undue circumstances kay gi rape or unsa, mao na hinooy sayon kaayo patyon.. ambot moto-o paba mog Ginoo pero ako wa naman sad koy simba-simba for months now pero akong nahibaw-an these babies are like little angels.. mga inosente.. bisan gani langgam pakan-on man gani niya, or for that matter kitang mga taw mo atiman man gani ta sa atong mga pets, how much more a human being? if naay depekto ang bata then we should have an institution that would take care of them.. di man sad daghan ang naay ingon ana ba

[cottonmouth]

unsay naka irony ani kay naay death penalty para atong mga ruthless criminals nga nipatay og taw,etc. giwala.. while nay mga inosenteng bata whether they came by accident kay nagpalami or by any undue circumstances kay gi rape or unsa, mao na hinooy sayon kaayo patyon.. ambot moto-o paba mog Ginoo pero ako wa naman sad koy simba-simba for months now pero akong nahibaw-an these babies are like little angels.. mga inosente.. bisan gani langgam pakan-on man gani niya, or for that matter kitang mga taw mo atiman man gani ta sa atong mga pets, how much more a human being? if naay depekto ang bata then we should have an institution that would take care of them.. di man sad daghan ang naay ingon ana ba

I fully understand your concern brod..I am a christian too. BUT we are talking about the law of the land not the law of God. That is why I stress that the law of the land should be objective and not base on personal preference of faith kay di man tanang tawo pareha nato ug tinuhoan ug panginahanglan. Mao ng ang balaod kinahanglan mohatag ug choices para benepisyo sa tanang katawhan ug dili lamang para sa katoliko ug Kristiyano. Mao nga niingon ko "leave the religious [consequences]" to God. Whether choosing legal abortion is a sin or not, the decision only belongs to GOD. But the choice should be with the mother or the parents.

[macme]

for populations sake this is good but for morality this is bad

[twentyone]

ang pag patay kay sayup - mas ok pa ang same *** marriage kaysa ani kay dili mana pag patay - kani pag patay naman nig mga insute- angal? jhehe