To include churches for income tax

[mannyamador]

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[B]Where did you get the idea that nuns and priest are not paid?

They are not. The Catholic Church is unlike your cult (which is run like a business). Priests and nuns do NOT generally have salaries or compensation at market rates. They are given funds for their own support or share in the resources of their orders. Sometimes they are given extra funds for special work that requires it, but they are generally NOT salaried (unlike in your cult). The Church cannot afford to pay priests and nuns the fair market value of their work. That is why priests and nuns are essentially underpaid volunteers. But they are far more cost-effective than the government.

So basically, if your church is gone somebody would just take-over...and I would say nobody would miss them except you and other people who make the church as a living.

HILARIOUS! That's the dumbest claim I've ever heard. NO other group can provide the hundreds of schools, orphanages, hospitals, relief centers, feeding centers, counselling facilities, etc. that the Church has to run (because the corrupt government can't do it). Thousands of people will suffer and die while you run around for decades trying to find alternatives. Can YOUR cult take over? How many similar service facilities does your cult have? Not much, eh? What a clown!

And while you're at it, kindly show me any evidence that supports your brainless claim that I make a living from the Church. You DON'T have any, right? What a LIAR.

They are surely not a house of vipers but they are the house of COTTONMOUTHS....[B]deadlier than vipers...AW

Well, YOU, cottonmouth, are in YOUR cult. Guess that makes it even worse.

Bottom line: Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, give to God what belongs to God.[/COLOR]

And the Constitution makes it quite clear that religious institutions should NOT be taxed. That is NOT Caesar's. That is why there is separation: to keep government from controlling religion.

But in your blind hatred you would rather have government take control where it has no competence. But that is not surprising since you also are also so infatuated with the current administration that you turn a blind eye to its corruption and incompetence.

If you want the government to tax, control, and ruin your useless cult that's your problem. Leave the really useful religious institutions free of government control so they can continue being more effective than the government. But then I guess you're just envious. Now that's truly selfish and irresponsible.

[cottonmouth]

This is where the taxes are for Mr. Amador..>>>Business - Q3 rice output up 10.2% - INQUIRER.net

Can your church do that? NO, not until they will give up their vast land properties for rice production. Taxes enable governments to jump start the economy by creating big projects. Your church, they just siphon money under hundreds of disguises and deposit it somewhere in a glorious place called Vatican Bank. Unfortunately, your church is not alone coz there are also a number of them out there disguising as sheeps but underneath are wolves.

So what is the differences between churches and governments?
1. The former thinks they are holy and happy to accused the latter as condemed sinners.
2. The former has something owned by the latter but don't want to pay the latter...because they are gods.

They have their own ways though of fooling the people willing to believed them like a horse.

[mannyamador]

This is where the taxes are for Mr. Amador.

Don't forget the brown paper bags full of BRIBE MONEY!!! That's where my taxes went.

Can your church do that?

It does better. Can the government in Cebu handle a sudden influx of nearly 60,000 students that are educated annually under the archdiocese of Cebu? Nope. Can it take over the work of two of the best Catholic hospitals in Cebu City (CDH and Perpetual Succour)? Nope. They don't even have enough beds and Chong Hua is an overcharging medical tourism facility! What about the orphanages, counselling centers, relief centers, etc. I guess you think YOUR cult can take over those? What a joke!

Can YOUR cult do anything n that scale? I repeat my question again: what does your cult do for the people in terms of social services? It must be doing something. Or is it NOTHING?

So what is the differences between churches and governments?

The government steals our taxes and spends what 's left on miserable social services.. The Catholic Church has LESS money and provides BETTER services.

But that applies to the Catholic Church and some other religious institutions. I guess YOUR cult is just like the government: full of thieves. You can't even specify what social services it performs!

[mannyamador]

Let's not forget those euro generals too!

And using the Dept. of Agroculture funds for Arroyo's 2004 campaign.

Then the rice scam. The road scam.

Yep, that's how the government wisely uses my taxes.

And some ***** wants the government to levy new taxes? Forget it.

[cottonmouth]

They are not. The Catholic Church is unlike your cult (which is run like a business). Priests and nuns do NOT generally have salaries or compensation at market rates. They are given funds for their own support or share in the resources of their orders. Sometimes they are given extra funds for special work that requires it, but they are generally NOT salaried (unlike in your cult). The Church cannot afford to pay priests and nuns the fair market value of their work. That is why priests and nuns are essentially underpaid volunteers. But they are far more cost-effective than the government.

Somebody is name calling again ha!ha!ha!...cult? gezz I can only laugh at you boy.

Well, at least the people you accused as a cult clearly declared their annual incomes although it is just around the minimum or even lower. These guys paid their dues to the government albeit them having a family to feed and children to send to school. With there meager wages they've done their duties as citizen of this republic. The minister in our church that you accused as a cult doesn't ask hefty price for baptism (it's free), wedding (donation only), burial (free too). These people you accused as cult belongs to a church that is dwarf by the properties of your proud church, but they did what a citizen should do: pay their taxes honestly. How about your priest and nuns? Do you really want us to believe you garbage? Tell it to the marines. Well anyway, I can't help what you believed.

HILARIOUS! That's the dumbest claim I've ever heard. NO other group can provide the hundreds of schools, orphanages, hospitals, relief centers, feeding centers, counselling facilities, etc. that the Church has to run (because the corrupt government can't do it). Thousands of people will suffer and die while you run around for decades trying to find alternatives. Can YOUR cult take over? How many similar service facilities does your cult have? Not much, eh? What a clown!

Oh yes for sure. CIT, PNU, SWU, Silliman, and Potenciano Larazabal of CDU will be happy is USC will be gone. Chung Hua, SWUH, CDU will be happy without Perpetual too. They can always build in their places...money is no problem to those people. At least they gave back what rightly belongs to the government (that's us dude). Well, it is probably what your mightly church made you to believe so that you will be happy to give...ahhhh the smell of money.

And while you're at it, kindly show me any evidence that supports your brainless claim that I make a living from the Church. You DON'T have any, right? What a LIAR.

The burden of proof is not mine dude. Get?

[QUOTE=mannyamador;3522856]
Well, YOU, cottonmouth, are in YOUR cult. Guess that makes it even worse.
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Sa mga badaf pa,WHATEVER!

[mannyamador]

I can only laugh at you boy.

Get a clown costume while you're at it.

These guys paid their dues to the government albeit them having a family to feed and children to send to school.

So what essential social services does your cult perform? Does it outweigh the taxes they give to the government? What about the money they DON'T declare? You want me to believe the BS about your "poor" pastors? Tell THAT to the Marines.!

The Church has clearly shown that it provides services that the government needs. The government -- and certainly not your cult -- cannot replace those services. No one can. And now you want to tax it? What kind of idiocy is that?

Are you getting a cut? Now THAT'S the smell of money!

The burden of proof is not mine dude. Get?

You make personal accusations without proof? Now that's smart -- NOT! I guess that's what those liars in your cult teach you.

And you're still are too scared to tel us what essential social services your cult performs. Why? Are you ashamed of those jokers and their pitiful services?

[wng]

Tax them if they really have income. Just give them some tax deductibles like if they really provided some "charitable and social services" as some people here claim. Audit them though. If they truly did provide more charitable works, then they don't need to pay taxes (because they have no income in the 1st place). But if they happen to have some income or have inappropriate spendings, by all means, tax them!

[GemWArrioR]

Yes, the R.C. Should be Taxed, they already have business establishments, luxury cars for the cardinals, priests bishops, luxury cars worth millions, wow where on earth did they get that money to pay in their luxurious living.

[r3roble]

Yes, the R.C. Should be Taxed, they already have business establishments, luxury cars for the cardinals, priests bishops, luxury cars worth millions, wow where on earth did they get that money to pay in their luxurious living.

not only RC, apil pud ng ubang religion ug denominations oi para fair.. he he..

[cottonmouth]

[QUOTE=mannyamador;3523108] Tell THAT to the Marines.!

Now THAT'S the smell of money!

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Those are my lines dude. Pangita sad ug imoha oi. The best form of flattery is plagiarism.

Ang gi-istoryahan diri 'goy kun ang mga simbahan angay bang kuhaan ug tax (income or real estate). Wala ta mag-apas kun cult, satanism catholic or protestant or unsa ba ng abata diha. Kasabot!

Nahutdan na ka ug bala? Did I hit your G-SPOT? Kay nang low blow ug nag name calling naman ka sa akong simbahan. Anyway, even if my church is one of the oldest christian group in the country it is not fun of hugging the spotlight. They know their role in the society, which is the spiritual part. We don't care if we get the credit or not.