Symposium about Islam

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hehehe init na au dri da

@malic: bro naw kahadlukan man ang muslim? and known man ang muslim na violent ayo towards non-muslims?

[tribu]

@malic: we never saw the answer to the question:

how good could a god be for permiting a more than 50years old man to have *** with a 10year old child. he must be a very good god who is so merciful. he can change the revelations and give humanity this new revelation "daw" which you called the "quran" but he can't even tell muhamad to make it unlawful to marry a 10 year old child out of mercy because a child is a child and ought to be cared for and loved and not abused and have *** with.

and we will not stop posting it until we find a satisfactory answer.

now for the quotes from famous people and great thinkers.

QUOTES OF NON MUSLIM THINKERS ON ISLAM/RELIGION

By Ayesha Ahmed

“The militant Muslim is the person cutting the head of the infidel while the moderate Muslim holds the victims feet”.stition"

MARCO POLO (WORLD TRAVELLER)

“. The law which their prophet Mohamed has given to muslims is that any harm done to any one who does not accept their law and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all”.

JOHN QUINCY ADAMS (U.S. PRESIDENT)


”THE ESSENCE OF MOHAMMED’S DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE”.


PROF BERTRAND RUSSELL (PHILISOPHER)

“Over a billion people believe in Allah without truly knowing what Allah supposedly stands for or what he really demands of them. And the minority that do understand continue to be Moslems because they have redefined their morality and ethics to fit within the teachings of Islam, which are floridly lacking in morality. They therefore redefine what is good and evil in order to fit their lives into what is preached by Islam, instead of examining Islam to see if it fits within the good life. Backwards thinking, imposed by a backward religion”.

SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL (BRTI PRIME MINISTER)

Churchill, W - The River War 1899:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”

ALEXIS DE TOCQVILLE (FRENCH THINKER/HISTORIAN)


“I studied the Kuran a great deal … I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammed”

EARNEST RENAN (FRENCH THINKER)

“Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him”.

WILL DURANT (U.S. HISTORIAN)

“The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.”

KONRERAAD ELST (BELGIAN HISTORIAN)

“The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. As a contribution to research on the quantity of the Islamic crimes against humanity, we may mention that the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanat)”

POPE BENEDICT/BYZANTINE EMPEROR PALEOGUS

"Show me just what Prophet Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

BRIGGITE GABRIEL (WRITER)

“Islamic societies are suffocated by shackles around the human spirit and brain. Islamic theology is driven by machoism, dominance, intolerance, submission and violence to all that disagrees with Islam’s principles of law”:

DR. KHUSHWANT SINGH (PROFESSOR)

“The most successful lecherous man who used religion for his personal gain is Prophet Mohammed. Islam is a cult with it’s complete irrational belief in Allah created by Muhammed who was a liar, thief, murderer and rapist till his last breath”.


Dr.R. BRAHAMCHARI (PHYSICIST)

.” Allah is a cruel tyrant, a barbaric killer and a violent despot . Islamic Umma is the biggest criminal gang on earth and Allah is leader and guide of that criminal gang and is trying to establish himself as the God of the world (not of the universe) with the help of the mujahidin through terror and bloodshed”.

Dr. B.R.AMBEDKAR ( THE FATHER OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION)

“Islam is a false and dangerous way of living”.

MICHAEL H. HART


Micheal H. Hart in his book on ratings of men who contributed towards the benefit and upliftment of mankind writes:

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels."

(Source: M.H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York, 1978, p. 33)


MICHAEL H. HART is very correct indeed muhamad was able to fool so many foolish people who were convinced to believe in muhamad's own alter ego, allah, whom he created to be his mouthpiece, one who "supposedly" made commands that often agrees with his own (muhamad) whims and wishes.

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@tribu: bro do you hate muslims?
@malic: do you hate christians?

[tribu]

@tribu: bro do you hate muslims?
@malic: do you hate christians?

i do not hate the muslims, i believe that they are just victims of a violent cult whose sacred books encourages violence against anyone who doesn't submit to its commands and precepts.

but who do you think would adhere to a religion who says that muhamad is the example of a perfect man?

would you consider a more than 50year old man who had *** with a 9year old child, a perfect holy man? how about praising a god who would agree to the evil whims and wishes of a self-proclaimed prophet?

i don't know much about islam until i finally found time to read the online quran and hadith and made many research, and to my horror, i learned that islam is not a "religion of peace" but a "religion of terror" where humanity is divided between Dar al-Islam (house of islam) and Dar al-Harb (house of war).

and i stumbled upon verses upon verses of violent admonitions to fight against those who oppose islam and muhamad.

from there i begin to see the reason why muslim can easily turn violent when questioned about the truthfulness of their beliefs. i take the examples of the danish cartons where muslims threatened the people with violence.

that was where i realized, islam is a political cult founded by a man who succeeded in fooling so many people to believe in a god that he invented. with claims that these god sent an angel to him to make new revelations different from those of the jews and christians. but this very same god would not forbid muhamad from having *** with a 9year old child. and because muhamad is a perfect example of a perfect man and ought to be followed by good muslims. so, you now have more than 50year old man having *** with 10year old girls in muslim societies.

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Tan aw traitor na salida bro nindot.

[Malic]

hehehe init na au dri da

@malic: bro naw kahadlukan man ang muslim? and known man ang muslim na violent ayo towards non-muslims?

Bro kahadlukan ang muslim tungod ra pod na sa mga propaganda sa mga obang Jews ug Kristyano.

unsaon man gud bro kung makasala ang muslim inig abot sa NEWSPAPER or T.V NEWS ibutang man jud didto gud nga " Si Abdul Janjalani osa ka MUSLIM ng rape" di jud ka kit bro nga masulat sa newspaper or t.v news nga "Si Mr. Cortes osa ka kristyano ng holdup"

kadaghang mga bad elements ah nga mga kristyano apan di jjud na nimo makita nga isuwat ang ilang relihiyon oban sa ilang ngalan.

kanang pagka violent bro naa na sa tanang mga tao,it so happen nga kung ang muslim mag violent daku kau na nga isyu sa obang mga tao. Wa diay ka kita ug non-muslim nga violent sa osa ka muslim? naa ra siya diri sa istorya bro,ablihi lang imong mga dunggan.hehe.

[Malic]

@tribu: bro do you hate muslims?
@malic: do you hate christians?

dili oi, according sa Quran nga dapat dunay nindot nga pagkasinabtanay ang osag osa ka tao. Unsaon man gud ning osa diri(tribu) kay ako may gibuthan sa tanang mga sala sa obang mga muslim nga mga badlongun. wa man unta koy labot ana. pero cge na lang ATO NA LANG DAWATUN.

[Malic]

@malic: we never saw the answer to the question:

how good could a god be for permiting a more than 50years old man to have *** with a 10year old child. he must be a very good god who is so merciful. he can change the revelations and give humanity this new revelation "daw" which you called the "quran" but he can't even tell muhamad to make it unlawful to marry a 10 year old child out of mercy because a child is a child and ought to be cared for and loved and not abused and have *** with.

and we will not stop posting it until we find a satisfactory answer.

now for the quotes from famous people and great thinkers.

QUOTES OF NON MUSLIM THINKERS ON ISLAM/RELIGION

By Ayesha Ahmed

“The militant Muslim is the person cutting the head of the infidel while the moderate Muslim holds the victims feet”.stition"

MARCO POLO (WORLD TRAVELLER)

“. The law which their prophet Mohamed has given to muslims is that any harm done to any one who does not accept their law and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all”.

JOHN QUINCY ADAMS (U.S. PRESIDENT)


”THE ESSENCE OF MOHAMMED’S DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE”.


PROF BERTRAND RUSSELL (PHILISOPHER)

“Over a billion people believe in Allah without truly knowing what Allah supposedly stands for or what he really demands of them. And the minority that do understand continue to be Moslems because they have redefined their morality and ethics to fit within the teachings of Islam, which are floridly lacking in morality. They therefore redefine what is good and evil in order to fit their lives into what is preached by Islam, instead of examining Islam to see if it fits within the good life. Backwards thinking, imposed by a backward religion”.

SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL (BRTI PRIME MINISTER)

Churchill, W - The River War 1899:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”

ALEXIS DE TOCQVILLE (FRENCH THINKER/HISTORIAN)


“I studied the Kuran a great deal … I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammed”

EARNEST RENAN (FRENCH THINKER)

“Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him”.

WILL DURANT (U.S. HISTORIAN)

“The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.”

KONRERAAD ELST (BELGIAN HISTORIAN)

“The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. As a contribution to research on the quantity of the Islamic crimes against humanity, we may mention that the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanat)”

POPE BENEDICT/BYZANTINE EMPEROR PALEOGUS

"Show me just what Prophet Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

BRIGGITE GABRIEL (WRITER)

“Islamic societies are suffocated by shackles around the human spirit and brain. Islamic theology is driven by machoism, dominance, intolerance, submission and violence to all that disagrees with Islam’s principles of law”:

DR. KHUSHWANT SINGH (PROFESSOR)

“The most successful lecherous man who used religion for his personal gain is Prophet Mohammed. Islam is a cult with it’s complete irrational belief in Allah created by Muhammed who was a liar, thief, murderer and rapist till his last breath”.


Dr.R. BRAHAMCHARI (PHYSICIST)

.” Allah is a cruel tyrant, a barbaric killer and a violent despot . Islamic Umma is the biggest criminal gang on earth and Allah is leader and guide of that criminal gang and is trying to establish himself as the God of the world (not of the universe) with the help of the mujahidin through terror and bloodshed”.

Dr. B.R.AMBEDKAR ( THE FATHER OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION)

“Islam is a false and dangerous way of living”.

MICHAEL H. HART


Micheal H. Hart in his book on ratings of men who contributed towards the benefit and upliftment of mankind writes:

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels."

(Source: M.H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York, 1978, p. 33)


MICHAEL H. HART is very correct indeed muhamad was able to fool so many foolish people who were convinced to believe in muhamad's own alter ego, allah, whom he created to be his mouthpiece, one who "supposedly" made commands that often agrees with his own (muhamad) whims and wishes.

Sir try harder. you'll find it there in the previous pages. You know you are not the only one nor the first one to ask this question. Happy hunting. But if you are lazy, do google.


I think i already posted some quotes from great thinkers too and what they say about Muhammad and Islam. And i already said that they have different convictions and opinions about it. BUT practical results and statistics can be the best judge over them, and what does it say? Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, Europe and USA has millions of converts every year, most converts are women.

Some europena leaders are studying Shariah law and islamic banking,hoping to find a way to integrate some of the principles in their policy and constitution. In other words sir Time has proven that the anti-islamic remarks has no weight at all.


Michael Hart is right after all. Dont hate Mr. Hart pls.

[tribu]

Sir try harder. you'll find it there in the previous pages. You know you are not the only one nor the first one to ask this question. Happy hunting. But if you are lazy, do google.


I think i already posted some quotes from great thinkers too and what they say about Muhammad and Islam. And i already said that they have different convictions and opinions about it. BUT practical results and statistics can be the best judge over them, and what does it say? Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, Europe and USA has millions of converts every year, most converts are women.

Some europena leaders are studying Shariah law and islamic banking,hoping to find a way to integrate some of the principles in their policy and constitution. In other words sir Time has proven that the anti-islamic remarks has no weight at all.


Michael Hart is right after all. Dont hate Mr. Hart pls.

o, by the way, i remember a hadith that says:

"I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious, sensible man could be led astray by some of you.' The women asked: 'O Allah's Apostle, what is deficient in our intelligence and religion?' He said: 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said: 'This is the deficiency of your intelligence' ... 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said: 'This is the deficiency in your religion."

well, most converts are women and to allah's apostle, women are lacking in intellect, so allah's apostle might be right after all. so cheers, he is very correct. and michael hart too. they are very correct in saying that muhamad/islam were able to victimized so many people to believe in his self-proclaimed prophethood because their converts are mostly women and women are lacking in intellect.

[Gwynhuever]

malic....na ko questions about islam ....unsa man basis ngano dehado man kaayo ang women sa islamic laws? e.g. sa Saudi Arabia ...abaya to the max jud...nya dili puede mo pakita ang women to other men gawas sa ila husband, brothers and father....also dependent jud ayo ang women to a man kay walay freedom to open bank accounts, etc etc