OFW group to charge RP before UN?

[ronaYo]

i thought i would let this pass, pero murag di jud ko kaagwanta...

mao ny giingon "nganong nag enter2x?"

pasangilan hinoon ang pinas? wahehehhehee pagkabright jud!

Kahibaw baka nga tungod na sa kalisud sa kinabuhi dri mao na nga nangadto na sila didto Mid East? Kinsa gud tawon ganahan magpa-ulipon didto sa laing nasud bai? Saman bright boy?

mao ra ni akng masulti basta mga muslim countries close minded ky na sa name lang daan na muslim? geezzzzz unsa kaha nasud sa ilang utok nganong manginabuhi didto na naa man unta mas competitive na lugar kung mo abroad pasensya lang jud mo mga ofw sa mid. east. ... mid. east lugar na sa y KALIPAY!

Unsa naman na imong rason bright boy oi? Unsa may lain sa muslim countries? Research sa ani nga subject before ka magpataka ug storya! bright man kaha ka?
Unsa kaha nasud sa imong utok nganong wa ka kahibalo ngano nanginabuhi na sila didto sa MIddle East? Pasalamat ka aning mga tawhana (OFW) kay bisag nagkalisud sila padayon gihapon sa pag-agwanta para lang mabuhi ang pamilya ug nagpadayon sa pagcontribute sa pag-palig-on sa ekonomiya sa pilipinas pinaagi sa ilang remittances!

[jdimpas]

^^ as expected naa dyud ma offend..
actually i'm one of those offended by his comment..
hopefully malamdagan tawn ni iyang huna2x..

[DEMONOCIETY]

i thought i would let this pass, pero murag di jud ko kaagwanta...



Kahibaw baka nga tungod na sa kalisud sa kinabuhi dri mao na nga nangadto na sila didto Mid East? Kinsa gud tawon ganahan magpa-ulipon didto sa laing nasud bai? Saman bright boy?



Unsa naman na imong rason bright boy oi? Unsa may lain sa muslim countries? Research sa ani nga subject before ka magpataka ug storya! bright man kaha ka?
Unsa kaha nasud sa imong utok nganong wa ka kahibalo ngano nanginabuhi na sila didto sa MIddle East? Pasalamat ka aning mga tawhana (OFW) kay bisag nagkalisud sila padayon gihapon sa pag-agwanta para lang mabuhi ang pamilya ug nagpadayon sa pagcontribute sa pag-palig-on sa ekonomiya sa pilipinas pinaagi sa ilang remittances!

TANGA! I have done my researched! ug wa ko moingon na bright ko pero akng gigamit akng utok oplok! if u know MIDDLE EAST daghan ng pinoy gi daug2x nila! 80's pa na dodong (I bet wa pa ka mataw ana ga lutaw2x paka sa it**g sa imong erpat ) wake up! ila ng kalipay ng mopatay ug non muslim if u know! naa dha ang highest death toll/da-ug2x sa mga non muslim/foreigner and most common quote aning arabong-y-kaligo > " DILI NI MAHITABO NIMO/NINYO UG WA MO DINHI " huna-hunaa ug unsa ni sila ka y batasan.

commonly mahitabo sa mga uban ofw sa mid. east.
- daghan employer d mohatag ug tarong na sweldo or should I say y sweldo2x kung mo sweldo man gani maayo lang sa 1st 3month after that SORRY! TY na lang! mao na ang uban magpa praning2x aron paulion.
- priso & torture ug d kamao morespect sa ilang stupid religion.
- Arabo kusog mangoot ug pinay nga naa nag work sa hotel! mga manyakis! ingon ana na sila ka manyak ky tungod sa kamahal sa ilang babae! tanawa unsa ni sila ka close minded pwerya mong mga arabo!

o tungod sa kawad-on mahimong musugal ang mga illegal ofw sa mga illegal na pamaagi tinood na cya mao ny giingon "HIKOG" hehehehe unya bisan pa d ni cla illegal ang uban ani nila daghan sab ani nila mga abusado mga ki-at d kamao mo behave mao ng mangatanggong.

OFW sab ko (for more than 8yrs.) mao ng d sab ko gnahan aning uban OFW ky tungod daghan ani nila mga peke ug abusado ingon2x na designer konohay pero paguniton ug lapis d diay to kamao! sus! pwerya mong mga peke pamauli mo oi! nag hugaw2x lang mo sa image sa mga pinoy nag tarong ug trabaho sa laing nasud.

[PhilCESM]

The Migrante International is one of the culprits why OFW are taking the risk of getting a work in that region and why million of million of Filipinos become unemployed(jobless).

Why?

Because they are extremely supporting the communist based Kilusan Mayo Uno(KMU) and Trade Union Congress of the Philippines (TUCP). The KMU have successfully shut-down thousands of factories and businesses by means of abusing their rights as labor organization(i.e. Strike, No Work time, economic sabotage, encouraging corruption in worker level,etc), which resulted in mass(millions) unemployment and massive poverty.

Both Migrante and KMU are trying to established a HERO image to the people....but unfortunately, day by day, more and more people have now realized, who they are and what they are.

May kasabihan "Ang basurang tinapon niyo...babalik din sa inyo". So, if you trying to blame the government for the messes that you made...then you have to think now before people will get after you.


"Trying to establish a HERO image but goes into ZERO"

[TAMB0K]

even if it was the US government, putol gihapon ulo ato hahaha

[eax]

The Migrante International is one of the culprits why OFW are taking the risk of getting a work in that region and why million of million of Filipinos become unemployed(jobless).

Why?

Because they are extremely supporting the communist based Kilusan Mayo Uno(KMU) and Trade Union Congress of the Philippines (TUCP). The KMU have successfully shut-down thousands of factories and businesses by means of abusing their rights as labor organization(i.e. Strike, No Work time, economic sabotage, encouraging corruption in worker level,etc), which resulted in mass(millions) unemployment and massive poverty.

"Trying to establish a HERO image but goes into ZERO"

Sakto gyud

[cottonmouth]

o tungod sa kawad-on mahimong musugal ang mga illegal ofw sa mga illegal na pamaagi tinood na cya mao ny giingon "HIKOG" hehehehe unya bisan pa d ni cla illegal ang uban ani nila daghan sab ani nila mga abusado mga ki-at d kamao mo behave mao ng mangatanggong.

OFW sab ko (for more than 8yrs.) mao ng d sab ko gnahan aning uban OFW ky tungod daghan ani nila mga peke ug abusado ingon2x na designer konohay pero paguniton ug lapis d diay to kamao! sus! pwerya mong mga peke pamauli mo oi! nag hugaw2x lang mo sa image sa mga pinoy nag tarong ug trabaho sa laing nasud.

Relax lang brod, misaka na imong sugar. I am afraid I have to agree with you about Saudi. I would even recommend to blacklist Saudi for our expats coz this country is just too dangerous for us. Been there, done that. But sadly, the political stake is too much for us now to do this. Maybe if we can be oil self-sufficient and a economicall richer, then we can do that. Dubai is good, might be a good place as long as you got the proper permits.

The problem with some of our kabayans is their plain stupidity...freaking stupid. It is the same as like you put your arms in the crocodiles mouth and when the it snaps it close, you blame the croc for biting you. A-holes.

True that the real Pinoy Expats got bad impression from their host countries because of these few bad eggs.

[cottonmouth]

Lets make this thread interesting... kay murag 1-sided pa mga replies...

I guess what made this group of OFW to resort to such action is because Dili enough ang tabang nga gina-extend sa gobyerno sa mga problemado nga OFW... considering nga ang OFW ang gahatag ug dakung income sa atung nasud...

We know for a fact nga many times nagkulang jud ang gobyerno sa pag provide ug assistance s mga OFW's... Dpat gani unta providan nig superior nga pag-atiman ang mga OFW! Usahay man gud kung nagka-problema na ang OFW or nagka-kaso more often napasagdan tawon sila... mahibaw-an nlng bitayunon na diay...

You might be right from your experience since you claimed to be a former OFW yourself but I am afraid I have to disgree about you complains about the government.

I myself is an expat but I don't expect something from the government. I believed that some OFWs have gone too far in asking for the previleges accorded to them. When you go out of your country you are basically on your own. It is also your responsibility to know what you are going into so that anything that will happen to you, it is at your own risk. The government cannot just take care of you everytime. As JFK said, " Ask not what your country do for you-ask what you can do for your country". I believe the government thru the POEA have done their best according to their capacity to help the expats. If you have pass thru the proper channels, you might understand what I mean.

If an OFW will just take heed of the warnings and instructions that the POEA have given, then they would have been in a better situation. There is no law that prevents anybody from travelling to a country (especially Mid East) with visit visa, but POEA and DFA clearly gives warning about the risk of working while having this visa. The POEA have made enough help to many unfortunate OFWs to bring them back here in RP but in many cases they are not in the news.

As an example, have you heard about that British woman that is behind bars now in Dubai for violating the *** laws of Dubai? The poor lady has been languishing now for more than 5 months in jail for a charge that we can say preposterous. Now remember the UAE is a former protectorate of the UK. But did the UK government made radical moves to help there citizen? NO. maybe they offered legal help but basically, she is on her own. Did she blame the UK government? Maybe she did personally, but I didn't hear that in the news. So when your in another country, just follow the rules and you will be safe.

[ronaYo]

mao ra ni akng masulti basta mga muslim countries close minded ky na sa name lang daan na muslim?

Basaha gud na bright boy imong gsuwat! Ngano man unsa may naa sa name nga muslim? are u making a generalization here? Gi-stereotype nimo tanang muslim? You're spreading religious hatred here! ug di na buhat sa maayong kristiyano! Ngano man jud suko ka ani nila? Nabiktima ka? looy sad nimo oi...

TANGA! I have done my researched! ug wa ko moingon na bright ko pero akng gigamit akng utok oplok! if u know MIDDLE EAST daghan ng pinoy gi daug2x nila! 80's pa na dodong (I bet wa pa ka mataw ana ga lutaw2x paka sa it**g sa imong erpat ) wake up! ila ng kalipay ng mopatay ug non muslim if u know! naa dha ang highest death toll/da-ug2x sa mga non muslim/foreigner and most common quote aning arabong-y-kaligo > " DILI NI MAHITABO NIMO/NINYO UG WA MO DINHI " huna-hunaa ug unsa ni sila ka y batasan.

Grabee sad nimo ka hi-blood bright boy oi! bright uncle diay kay murag tiguwang naman ka... Again stereotyping ning imo sir... Tanaw nko murag na-Biktima jud ka... Grabee man jud imong kasuko... well I understand you... Baho arabo sir noh? way ligo

[ronaYo]

You might be right from your experience since you claimed to be a former OFW yourself but I am afraid I have to disgree about you complains about the government.

I myself is an expat but I don't expect something from the government. I believed that some OFWs have gone too far in asking for the previleges accorded to them. When you go out of your country you are basically on your own. It is also your responsibility to know what you are going into so that anything that will happen to you, it is at your own risk. The government cannot just take care of you everytime. As JFK said, " Ask not what your country do for you-ask what you can do for your country". I believe the government thru the POEA have done their best according to their capacity to help the expats. If you have pass thru the proper channels, you might understand what I mean.

If an OFW will just take heed of the warnings and instructions that the POEA have given, then they would have been in a better situation. There is no law that prevents anybody from travelling to a country (especially Mid East) with visit visa, but POEA and DFA clearly gives warning about the risk of working while having this visa. The POEA have made enough help to many unfortunate OFWs to bring them back here in RP but in many cases they are not in the news.

As an example, have you heard about that British woman that is behind bars now in Dubai for violating the *** laws of Dubai? The poor lady has been languishing now for more than 5 months in jail for a charge that we can say preposterous. Now remember the UAE is a former protectorate of the UK. But did the UK government made radical moves to help there citizen? NO. maybe they offered legal help but basically, she is on her own. Did she blame the UK government? Maybe she did personally, but I didn't hear that in the news. So when your in another country, just follow the rules and you will be safe.

I agree with you 100% cottonmouth... as u said this is situational, specially expat ka, you are very independent this goes as well sa mga pilipino nga permanent resident na sa ilang adopted country... Ikaw ray mudala sa imong kaugalingon, you're free to roam around...

But my concern goes to the other sectors sa mga OFW, like DH, laborers, skilled workers nga naay mga agency nga nag-gunit nila, They are the most prone to abuse, specially ning atung mga kababayin-an nga nag DH intawn para mabuhi ang pamilya... We need our gov't to guide them and help them, kay kung di amo nila ang mag-abuso ang ilang agency sad mu-abuso nila... Looy intawn... if you've heard a news of a pinay DH sa lebanon nga niambak tawon sa flat sa iyang amo para maluwas sa abuso.... (Dapat unta naay mga safeguards and protection clause ang kontrata ang recognized by govt's concered, usually naa ni sa mga bi-lateral agreements between gov'ts, it's being pushed by our gov't, pero very slowly kay they dun want to offend the other gov'ts)

And the JFK saying also applies to them (OFW), and they've done their part for the country! They went abroad to be self-sufficient, para mabuhi ang pamilya ug dili mahimong problema pa sa gobyerno, 2nd they've contributed sa kaban sa gobyerno pina-agi sa ilang remittances! that's why our economy stayed afloat sa bisan unsang krisis kay tungod tawon sa remittances sa mga OFW, and it kept the countries inflation rate at the minimum... halos OFW remittences na ang nag-save sa atung nasud sa sunod-sunod nga krisis... unsay pay i-expect sa gobyerno aning mga OFW?
The gov't in return should take care of our lowly OFW's...