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  1. #11

    Doesn't matter who started the fight, both sides committed heinous crimes. That being said, I wish we'd give ourselves more time to think instead of immediately labeling Muslims as violent. Too often do Christians focus only on the issue of fundamentalism in Islam.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador View Post
    Yes read on the Crusades. You will find that they were mainly DEFENSIVE in nature.

    Even before the First Crusade, Muslim troops had already been attacking Christian communities and kingdoms. The Seljukian Turks threatened Christian pilgrims, and the Byzantine Empire. This had been going on for decades. Then the Muslim armies invaded the Christian kingdoms in the Holy Land. They conquered Jerusalem and Antioch, Syria and Asia Minor.

    Both sides, as was common in those times, engaged in atrocities and even fought among each other. But this does not change the fact that the Crusades were brought about because of Muslim aggression.
    AMEN to that bro manny!!!

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    i think you didn't get the point of the article, he wasn't talking about religion. He was talking about being human. don't believe all the things you see in TV bro.
    i second the motion.

    or maybe a lot of people read the bible and the quoran TOO LITERALLY?

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    Doesn't matter who started the fight, both sides committed heinous crimes. That being said, I wish we'd give ourselves more time to think instead of immediately labeling Muslims as violent. Too often do Christians focus only on the issue of fundamentalism in Islam.

    exactly...i do not want to take the discussion about the rusades etc...kay puro man ta kamao mamasa...tagsa2x na lang ta research he he he ...kay ma OT samot...ang akong main point ani was to call out shogunfreaks generalization about the muslims....na abot na lang sa uban issues kay ni follow up man siya ug comment...

    @shogunfreak....amen ka sa post ni mannyamador...but i guess wala ka kadawat sa akong MAIN point about not labeling everybody as terrorists? kay wa lagi ko ka kita sa imong AMEN about ani he he he

  5. #15
    Obama on race…

    From Audacity of Hope:’I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by shogunfreak View Post
    "patayin lahat kaaway ni Allah"

    what does that implicate in their quoran?
    naa gyud diay ingon ana nga quote sa Koran?

    if naa gyud, cgurado jud diay ang Christians ang gpasabot?

  7. #17
    @shogun.....muslims do not hate christians...you are very wrong on that account.....the radicals maybe but not muslims in general...islam is a religion which advocates peace....please be careful pag generalize

    not really

  8. #18
    no point on arguing who started the fight.
    The point of the story is not about religion.

    Now if you want to point kung kinsa mas kuyaw mo terrorize, medyo pointless kay Christians and Muslims are all BLOODTHIRSTY, religion or fanaticism can really do wonders when it comes to slaughtering other races in the name of GOD. Christianity didnt start with everyone converting to it, blood flowed like a river during ancient times, religion is very important in wars simply because it can increase your troops morale,and pacify the population since they know God/Allah/Shiva/*name your favorite god* is on your side. Mao bitaw ni convert si Constantine just to make governing his subjects easier.

    It just so happens in our current era Christians ang dominant so ang Muslims ang mag suicide bombing, but if you turn it around I wont be surprised to hear Christians dying in the name of God and including innocent civilians with them. Just what happened to the Koran, its very simple to add another chapter in the bible to declare holy war or just declare it immediately, kay ang bible/Koran hinimo ra ug tawo.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Motownkid View Post
    naa gyud diay ingon ana nga quote sa Koran?

    if naa gyud, cgurado jud diay ang Christians ang gpasabot?
    naa bai, i think naa siya sa book of swords.
    unlike sa bible if there are conflicting texts, mo take precedence ang latest book.
    sa mga 1st texts, love and peace ang gi promote but sa latest text kay kill all non believers and gi specify ang Christians kay "children of the book" man tawag nila saunang panahon.

    mao bitaw naay nag pagawas ug video sa youtube to call on the Muslim nation to update the Koran kay maoy gi take advantage sa AlQuaeda.

    some are already implying nga ang true practitioners sa Muslim faith right now kay ang Al Quaeda.

  10. #20
    ..i like your take on things @metz...sayon sad sabton imo explanations...

    anyway i just hate haters (which make me one too he he he)...if only we could be more tolerant of each other unta sa....

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