Cebu Velez College student killed in clash between Army and rebels

[bazarov]

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"She was in Negros in her capacity as a registered nurse...", per Aquisola, but we now know that she wasn't there in her capacity as a registered nurse but the capacity as a NPA member instead.

I hope I can read Alquisola's mind so I can answer your interesting questions. Anyway, to state the obvious, the NPAs also have medics.

AND even without a firearm, if Rachelle is [sic] spotted by the military in the company of those having arms, dili diay ka mo engage?

I surmise that you are questioning the validity of the military's decision to engage that specific group of rebels. I have to clarify that I have nothing against the military. They were just doing their jobs. On the other hand, Palang was doing hers [as a medic/nurse for the rebel movement].

My rejoinder focused on belying your spurious statements on "dishonest" "leftist personalities."

Anyway, can you cite any link to a credible source stating that Palang was already an NPA member while she was still a CEGP officer? I'd like to read it.

[bazarov]

So if ang military makadali ug NPA, report dayon then CHR dayon.

The problem with Palparan and some elements of the military is that a great number of their victims aren't even NPAs. Try reading the findings of the United Nations Human Rights Council too.

[bazarov]

ALL THIS REPORT WON'T FIT RACHELLE MAE'S CASE...she wasn't killed extra-judicially...

Once more, let us look at the context. I recommended the Melo Report in response to GemWarrior's claim that the CHR is one-sided and that all accusations against the AFP "are baseless, satsat lang walang ebidensiya."

[junmar4]

The problem with Palparan and some elements of the military is that a great number of their victims aren't even NPAs. Try reading the findings of the United Nations Human Rights Council too.

then? By the way, how would you or would you not know if NPA sila or dili when you are good liars and deceivers?

[giddyboy]

I hope I can read Alquisola's mind so I can answer your interesting questions. Anyway, to state the obvious, the NPAs also have medics.

oh, and before i forget. Her former classmates and friends claimed she was part of a medical mission, as what CHR-7 regional director Alejandro Alonso officially told the media. (No need to name names here. Ask Alonso the names urself, but likely he won't also)

Even before the NPA released a statement confirming Rachelle's membership in the rebel group, CHR was already aware of her association with the NPA.

source: Cebu Daily news

My rejoinder focused on belying your spurious statements on "dishonest" "leftist personalities."

see my first part of this post.

Anyway, can you cite any link to a credible source stating that Palang was already an NPA member while she was still a CEGP officer? I'd like to read it.

"Alonso said that according to Bishop Du, Palang's parents knew beforehand that she had joined the NPA."--Cebu Daily News

do u think she became a member during reviewing, studying, and taking the nursing board last May? let's remember that she passed with flying colors.

and do u think the time she became a member was when she went to Negros after she passed the exam? think about it.

(1) her parents knew beforehand that she had joined the NPA. i surmised that "beforehand" was before she went to Negros.

(2) chances are slim that Mae was recruited during her exam review and the actual board exam. she passed w/ flying colors baya...

(3) Ka Dom Pantaleon said that she was there on a "political work". so meaning, that doesn't sound like a neophyte anymore ky niingon unta cya nga she's there to be trained or what. It more sounds like she was already a member before she came to Negros.

anyways, in a nutshell my assumptions:

Mae -> CEGP -> NPA while CEGP -> Review/take/pass the exam -> Political mission Negros -> killed in encounter

[radiostar]

Butcher? Just because he is doing his job?
Then how would you call the killers in your kangaroo courts, martyrs?

doing his job by killing innocent activists?

i said evidences, links, just like what you've been doing in your previous posts.

try googling "melo report" i think bazarov already explained this one

[radiostar]

I heard them on News, but it has no sufficient evidence that is the work of the AFP or the Arroyo Government, i am no leftist or rightist. I also hate the government for doing nothing over this problem. They just make promises.

try reading the whole report, and you say there is no sufficient evidence? you must be blind sir

[junmar4]

doing his job by killing innocent activists?

yeah i know, innocent activist like mae palang?

[eax]

The problem with Palparan and some elements of the military is that a great number of their victims aren't even NPAs. Try reading the findings of the United Nations Human Rights Council too.

Utro pud na ang UN mura ug mga sympathizers sa mga communista. Try for example genocide sa Cambodia under Pol Pot Regime. Even today mura pa na wala nag-start ang trial sa Cambodia genocide.

[bazarov]

oh, and before i forget. Her former classmates and friends

They're not "leftist personalities." But if we really think about it, Palang's nursing of her armed comrades is a lifetime medical mission considering the ragtag condition those bunch in the mountains are in!

I will not speak for Palang's family and friends, but I think we should at least try to understand her father's earlier denial as a defense mechanism for his sad, sad heart. The poor man. It must be very painful for him. It will take time for reality to set in.

(3) Ka Dom Pantaleon said that she was there on a "political work". so meaning, that doesn't sound like a neophyte anymore ky niingon unta cya nga she's there to be trained or what. It more sounds like she was already a member before she came to Negros.

I've read much about the CPP and the NPA in the UP Manila library while finishing my undergraduate course. I recommend Kathleen Weekley's The Communist Party of the Philippines 1968-1993: A story of its theory and practice. However, I'm not sure if they sell that book in your place.

But to the point, from what I've read I believe not all rebels are NPA and not all NPA members are armed or are combatants. They have political officers, medics, reserved troops, militias, and unarmed peasant organizers in the same way that the AFP also has some sort of division of labor in its hierarchy. But armed or not, new or old, they all do political work.

and do u think the time she became a member was when she went to Negros after she passed the exam?

Hmmm.... Considering they didn't issue her a rifle yet, yes.

anyways, in a nutshell my assumptions:

Mae -> CEGP -> NPA while CEGP -> Review/take/pass the exam -> Political mission Negros -> killed in encounter

Thanks for sharing that but I think this one's more accurate:

Mae -> CEGP -> KM while CEGP -> CPP while CEGP -> Review/take/pass the exam -> Recruited to NPA and assigned to Negros -> killed in encounter