Do you believe in God? If so/if no, WHY?

[munzter666]

kung saan ka maligaya hanapin mo si ligaya. hihihi

sakto ka bradix, ang problema sa tao kay gihimong produkto ang diyos na icompare sa ubang diyos murag business competetion. from competition -- > to sales rep (preacher) with brochure (bible) -- > then ibaligya sa simbahan (tindahan) --> then kolekta (sales). nindot nga business kay pwede nimo baligya kadaghan. hihihihi

you missed the best part....they dont pay TAX.hahaha

yup correct ka dyan..pero unsaon mana kung walay au imong produkto nga gbaligya..wala say mamalit! dili sad na magdugay..bankrupt naka krn..wala na unta na ni exist!

the thing is...saying "walay ayo..." thats too subjective. for you dagway....keep in mind, not everyone thinks alike.

even zeus has a modern day followers...i dare you to disprove their god.hahaha joke

[mrxxxx]

becoz he will make a way........and the source of everyhting

[Sinyalan]

I really don't quite get what you mean. I am not convinced by your statements since its really not clear.
The Bible is written by one person? - Did I say that? Is it true?

Ken, for argument sakes… you all believe that the bible is/was influenced by ONE…. “One person” meaning, your “god”. I don’t consider him as a supernatural being or person because he simply doesn’t exist. Now do you get my point? You misunderstood my post not that you don’t get it. Besides, I am not convincing you to agree on my statements – not my position to convince people to what my beliefs are (I know one person who does… and most of your kind too ) because it’s your life and not mine. However, when you read, make it simple and easy to understand because if you don't, you will always fall in the same spot.

The Bible existed before time? - Did I say that?

Tsk… can you read it again please? You misunderstood my point again. What I said, “Conclusive” because the bible said so… sounds clear now?

Red the Entire History of Hebrews? - not quite, but significant events in History of God's Intervention and are still being kept as part of Jewish/Judaism national History even Before Christ. (eg: Sabbath Keeping and the ten commandments moses time and the exodus)

Oh good at least you know a little bit but not quite enough, don’t you agree? History of god’s intervention? Why is it a history in the first place? You see ken, several authors created something reassurance for the people who needed “superman” figure to save them – do you know from what? Even you can create a single prayer out of your need because you want assurance. That’s what they did BUT it doesn’t mean it’s for all people – like you in the Philippines. Wny? It was intended for them and for them alone. Now, why it came to different parts of the world? Blame the invaders, crusaders, messengers and to say the least… the Spaniards.

Superior to other Gods? - I did not say that. I am simply implying other Gods does not exist. More of a wakeup call.

That’s it! Imply other gods does not exist. What does that mean? It’s more like a hyperbole, don’t you think?

didn’t you know that your god came from place? One specific place… asa gain to na siya? -
What place are you talking about you tell me. What do you mean? Is it God's beginning or God's place his people's nation? You really cannot express what you mean, c'mon. Just say what you mean by that. Don't be too shallow I know there is something that you meant by that. I am here to help clarify your questionable belief. Seems that you already know the answers to your questions.

Jeez… you didn’t know where your “god” came from? Here I thought you already know these things. Even a grade school kid knows where your god came from hehehe… I guess it’s safe to suggest to read your bible again… don’t you agree? Besides, it’s not shallow… it’s already washed out.

First of all you need to clarify your statements. The Philippine Island has existed during the creation of the world. the Philippine Island was named Philippines 4 centuries ago. Christianity begun 19 centuries ago (33ad)

Oh no… Philippines named Philippines 4 centuries ago? Hahahahaha…. Ken, my statement was very clear but your interpretations are way off the charts. Sorry, but Philippines is named after a king… don’t tell me you don’t know this? One clue… 1521. that does not sound like 4th century ago, ken.

You based on one specific history as the worldwide use for all mankind as the truth. - It is said that the truth in the Bible is to be preached among all nations, kindred and tongue. I am not implying that the truth in the Bible is the entire History of mankind.

Ken, may I suggest a constructive criticism about your reading? Please, please… read it simple. Now, let’s go back… your know, many many people such as yourself Ken thought that the bible is the source of all and one true book of all… others failed because the bible is the “source”. How the world began, animals, people, and so on… does that sound not history for the entire mankind? I would hope that you’re old enough to know this because you seemed to lob a lot of ideas that needs to shuffling. I am not saying Ken that you’re not matured but when you always misunderstood my views.

You are implying that Indian people are made by Indian gods and Chinese People are made by Chinese Gods. In the Bible these type of Nations are classified as non Jews or the Gentiles that were being represented in the Bible. You are implying they are innocent since they never get to know the God of the Bible. I say yes they are. Did God destroyed them? No. (Check China's economy) Do you think innocent people without knowledge of the Bible deserves punishment? Do you really think God's justice system so is dumbed down by punishing innocent people. Here is a proof as well that God is universal.
Please Read this through:
Revelations 14:6-13

This is what I am telling you, you lob. Your bible classified India, China as gentiles? Classified as Gentiles? Do you think they care about that? Hehehehehe… Ken, I’ve been working here in Hong Kong for several years now and I get a glimpse of their culture and the people… Christianity is less discussed and practiced…. However, I am not implying… it’s their customary beliefs that they are created by their own god. Hehehehe…. What’s the economy got to do with all discussions we make? I don’t get your point. Ken, I would suggest read other cultures first and don’t make assumptions about the whole thing that the bible is the source of everything. Don’t kid yourself, make an effort to know these cultures then we can discuss more about their beliefs.

They existed because they have been created by God. God made man through Adam. Through Adam nations are born. (through thousands of generations) It does not mean that if a man does not know God then he is not created by God. God created all man through Adam.

See. This is an assumption. Your bible said that every man came from two people (Adam/Eve). You know, an assumption is the mother of all failures… don’t make one. Know their culture (again) before you LOB your assumptions. Clue… bible (where it came form). India, China… where are they belong?

Some people accuse God of punishing innocent unknowing people from other countries(e.g. China, India). That is the most primitive perception of the Lord.

Primitive? Hahahahaha...

Let me tell you this. As we are talking today Christians are reaching out to people all over the world to the innocent ones without the knowledge of the Gospel in order save them. Does these sound fair enough? Are you somehow compelled to reject these Gospel so that these innocent people should not know the angels' massage of God's love.

Reject the gospel? Ken, first things first… we are not “properly” introduced but I have to tell you a secret… I am an atheist. Somehow… I am now compelled to reject with gospel of your bible… hmmm, when did I agree to that? Pssst… assumptions again, ken.

These simple verses answers what happens to China and India. (Please read this through) Revelations 14:6-7
I don't actually believe that people from other nations like China are totally ignorant about God. Christianity and the Gospel are always reaching to other countries. But if that country will not accept or shuts the door down there is nothing we can do.
God's efforts to reach other people through his people or directly are clearly evident.
Jonah was sent by God to Ninevah or Mesopotamia to preach repentance.

Ken, I don’t need to read your bible – although your verses don’t apply to these cultures. They know Christianity and your god and your jesus christ but as I have said, it’s less discussed and practiced. By the way, Jonah’s story is yet to be proven…. Besides, he didn’t go to China or India, correct?

A person is made by God whether he knows him or not. Because God wants him to be a part of his family because he/she is with God's family.
Matthew * 11 : 28

Hehehe… again, that’s your bible talking and telling you… I am not created by your god but my parents. You want to know who created my parents? Their parents and their parents’ parents and so on…

St. Paul never Met Jesus yet he preached the Gospel without meeting Jesus and his writings are consistent that it is never contradicting in anyway in any part of the Bible. Although Paul met Jesus through a vision just as John the Revelator and other saints saw.

well, that’s what they said… their version. You can even create your god through your vision, thus your version is different. I am amazed how they can’t picture “jesus” face through their version by their visions. Funny, wasn’t it?

Ok, Let me rephrase. “Saints and Prophets were entirely isolated when they wrote the Bible.” “Saints are isolated people” have different meaning it generalizes that all saints are isolated people but that is not what I meant. I need to rephrase that, I am sorry.

No need to be sorry ken, we commit mistakes.

Now you know what I meant So you just tell me why you question the Bibles consistency? You can question it in any way no pun intended.

Why question the bible’s consistency? Hmmm… I guess you have not seen them, haven’t you? May I suggest to read them carefully. Better yet, try the world wide web.

[krushuddel]

oh yeah here we go again..does any religion says where we came from except judaism or israel's history? or u may say we came from "kawayan" si malakas at maganda? the problem is you dont read israel's history and cultures..im sure u believed in Philippine's history? unless ur not a Filipino. By the way try to search the web too if u may find some about their history..sure u will..

for sure you will do this on ur next post..u will cut it into phrases and make nonsense comment on it. then u will said that's what our bible said. please understand what im telling in whole not just in part coz ul be lost. every statements support each phrases and they are in one idea. i know this would be hard too. no offense peace!

[xiao-xiao]

@Sinyalan: kusog kaayo ka mu-ingon nga "read the bible carefully". Do you even read bible? from Genesis to Revelation?

[harris]

I know the answer to that bro if your asking sinlayan!!! let's make peace nalang to each and evryone in here kay bisag unsaon bai dili dyud ta mag abot ani..our argument and stand will remained as is! so watch out nalang ta sa atong comment kanang dili ta makapatandug sa pride sa uban!! Peace to all!

[krushuddel]

yeah peace to all!

[harris]

Atleast that's what our God told as to do so!!!hehehehehe

[melvenb]

I think most of us here believe in GOD.. What if ang pangutana, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT CHRIST IS THE MESSIAH or HE's JUST ANOTHER PROPHET??

[josephdc]

^ Yup! He wasn't just a prophet.