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  1. #11

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    Many people believed that Faith alone and we don't need to do good works.
    its their own understanding and the bottom line of this is that they want to experience the best of both worlds.

    doing earthly things and yet saved already.

    but let us read the words of CHRIST:

    46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Luke 6:46


    is it obvious?

    Peace!
    many people believe in the Bible alone, without even doing the good works.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by baliguat View Post
    Ako buotan baya kaayo koh!

    * SUS nagsaba pa ka kay tabangan ta unta kah.
    * Kana jud xa kay di na mo asenso kung di pa tungod nako.
    * Ako kay matinabangon baya kaayo koh.
    * Mang gihatagon pa gyud koh.
    * Daghan kog gitabangan
    * Himasa kog Bible.
    * Diosnon ko nya sila dili.
    * Mainampo-on kaayo koh.
    * ako gyung ipahibaw sa uban nga grabe kaayo ko maka ampo kada adlaw.
    * Nag sunod jud ko sa gisulti sa Bible.
    * Brayt pud koh.
    * Sila dautan ako dili.
    * Di ko parehas anang uban diha nga masalaypanon kaayo, segi lang sila buhat ug sala(sin).
    * Ako kugihan sila tapulan.
    * Dali ra ko kasabot di pareha anang uban dha (Bogo kaayo).
    * Nindot ko ug dungog kompara anang uban diha.
    * Sikat pa jud ko tungod sa akong dungog.
    * Ako walay bisyo di parehas anang uban dihang bisyoso kaayo.

    HInutuki ninyo ning mga butanga.
    mura man ni ug politiko? or pastor ba kaha?

  3. #13
    is this thread redundant to another post?

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by baliguat View Post
    HInuktuki ninyo ning mga butanga.
    nag hinuktok ko sa mga butang nga imong gipamulong, OK ra man bro.

    akong namatyagan mao nga self-proclaimed righteous kaayo nang mga tawhana..

  5. #15
    daghan bitaw self righteous dri sa kalibutan,..pero sa atubangan sa Ginoo,usa ra ka trapo,.wala lang jud cguro nabatayan,..

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    Many people believed that Faith alone and we don't need to do good works.
    its their own understanding and the bottom line of this is that they want to experience the best of both worlds.

    doing earthly things and yet saved already.

    but let us read the words of CHRIST:

    46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Luke 6:46


    is it obvious?

    Peace!
    Sa asa na pasabot nimo nga Faith alone without works? Sa salvation of man? If sa salvation, Yes, faith alone can save us, not our good works. Mahimo tang matarong atubangan sa Ginoo pinaagi sa pagtuo lang, walay labot ang maayong buhat. Pero isip linuwas ni Kristo, kinahanglan ta mohimo ug mga maayong buhat isip testimonya nato sa ubang tawo. Kay ang purpose nga giluwas sa Diyos ang tawo nga motuo is para mohimo ug mga maayong buhat. So, sa kaluwasan sa kalag ang pagtuo lang ang makaluwas kay ang nihimo sa "works" nga part is si Christ naman didto sa Krus.

    5 kita iyang giluwas, dili tungod sa mga binuhatan nga nahimo nato sa atong pagkamatarung, kondili tungod sa iyang kalooy, pinaagi sa paghugas sa pagkatawo pag-usab, ug sa pagkabag-o diha sa Espiritu Santo (Titus 3:5)

    Best example sad aning Salvation by faith alone is kadtong kawatan sa krus, wala man to siyay maayong buhat kay kawatan man to, pero giluwas gihapon siya ni Christ kay nituo man siya.

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    mausad na inyo wla makig lalis..

    btw i am baptist..

    sa ako lang huh
    response: eph2:8-9, We are save by grace not of works, [stop sa ta diha]
    den adto ta sa laing verse.

    <[Book of James][For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.]>
    nakita na ninyo ang deperincia noh?

    If naa kay Bible background makuha nimo neh, [kung e explain nako ni taas na kaau.] shortcut tah.

    Me: Only Faith no need works.. but. but and but, if you have a true true true faith in Him syempre naa fruit imong Faith and that is kuld your work's. na gets na ninyo?.

    last ex. In crucifixion 1 sa mga kawatan ni sulti nga ni too cia.. JC response karon karon daun magaubangan ka kanako.,[gipakita ni JC no need na ang works,] Works baptistm, etc. cant saved you bro ^_^.

    OT: In our time we are under Grace
    Before JC - by works
    Pag ka tawo ni JC - by grace [talk about salvation]

    No 1 Naka follow sa 10 , 9 ,8 ,7 ,6, 5, even first 4 commandment.
    So hehehe dli jud sa binuhatan kay wlay matarong....100% ang nag sulat ani dli matarong ingon man ang nag basa karon....

  8. #18
    Amen for that bro faykesmayle;

    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.

    God bless.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by faykesmayle View Post
    mausad na inyo wla makig lalis..
    Me: Only Faith no need works.. but. but and but, if you have a true true true faith in Him syempre naa fruit imong Faith and that is kuld your work's. na gets na ninyo?.
    Ipasabot diay ani bro nga kuwang diay ka ug faith kay dili man diay ka matarong? Kay ang faith mo resulta man sa pagka-maayong tawo, di ba? So dili pa ka save kay kuwang paman imong pagtoo?
    So hehehe dli jud sa binuhatan kay wlay matarong....100% ang nag sulat ani dli matarong ingon man ang nag basa karon....

  10. #20
    pareha ras mu ingon nga maka gaba ra ko kay buotan ko na tawo, segi ra ba ko simba. manggihatagon ra ba ko ug matinabangon. di sila mu asenso kung di tungod nako... samot na nga muingon ko nga nabuotan na xa tungod nako... na Diosnon xa tungod nako.

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