Dmax or Hilux?

[vipvip68]

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I'm sorry if I lost you but we are talking about the moose test... not the Dakar 2007 rally. That has nothing to do with the vehicle rolling over or not.

My contention is that the video compared a Hilux vs a Strada equipped with ASTC. Yes.. there were 2 brands... but are you really making a fair comparison of vehicle rollover when one has stability control and the other doesn't? (given that the Philippine variant doesnt have ASTC)

And I don't see how you can equate the Strada passing the moose test to performing well in Dakar.

It was a Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution that won that rally and the Hilux wan't even in the Rally and you want to know why? The Hilux isn't a Sport Truck... it's a Utility Vehicle ... They have different pedigree... different DNA...

It's difficult sad to compare the Hilux to Strada...

For me, Hilux vs. Dmax would probably be a more relevant comparison sa Utility segment

The Strada would be in a different category along with other sport pickups.

Peace on Earth

holy cow! i don't have to prove anything because i don't own the video. But i assure you the video used 2 (two) brands meaning they are comparing their performance (each brand mitsu & toyota with or without ASTC both) and not testing a safety feature on a single vehicle alone.

besides the video clearly showed how the hilux failed. Should the hilux surpass stradas capabilities it would have been on Dakar 2007 top 10 but sadly it didn't even make the top 50

PEACE!

If i were to chose between Hilux and Dmax i'd go with Isuzu for reliability but if the Strada was included hehehe its pretty obvious which would be my choice.

[TAMB0K]

the triton made it to to top 20. by the way since we'd chose between utility vehicles as you implied id chose isuzu for reliability however if the strada was included the strada would be my choice.

[nortz]

isuzu dmax...

[kenny_tiu7]

whew dugay ko wa ka online daghana na post oi. anyways peace lng mo mga bros. about sa inyo mga queries:

here are the traction control systems for the Mitsu cars you mentioned:

Pajero 3.2 D-iD and 3.8 V6 (2007-present BK and 2003-2006 CK series) M-ASTC Mitsubishi Active Stability Traction Control System
Mitsubishi Active Stability and Traction Control is a state-of-the-art safety system. It regulates braking force to each wheel during cornering to ensure excellent stability. The system also maintains optimum traction in all conditions, on and off-road. M-ASTC prevents tyre spin on slippery surfaces and minimises the risk of drift caused by over-accelerating in corners.
source: Mitsubishi-Motors/M-ASTC
Stability Control

All New Montero Sport 3.2 GLS SE and 2007.
present Strada 3.2 GLS Sport M/T and A/T - Hybrid Limited Slip Differential (LSD)
click here to know more about it: Limited slip differential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
IMO, the Hybrid LSD may like the usual LSD found in other cars also. But it could be as capable as the Forutner's Torsen LSD:
Peer Landa -- Roadster Torsen LSD

hope this helps.

anyways it all boils down to unsa mas ganahan sa buyer naay pros and cons sa tanan competitor. so depende ra sa buyer asa xa malipay and asa iya mas ganahan

Drive @ Earth Inspired

[kenny_tiu7]

Point of my post was the add on feature of vehicle stability control for the strada which prevented the rollover during the moose test. Hence the video on how these safety features work.
It's also unfair to single out one car for that rollover risk since this is common for most SUV's, Light Trucks and Vans.

Without VSC, we don't really know if the result for the Strada would have been thesame.
Can anyone verify if the strada here has VSC? If wala then equal ra ang risk of rollover as any other pickup.


@bostonfan...

wala man koy gi tirahan nga tao. I am merely addressing comments of people who say things like... generic ang stereo ... unsaon nga masuko man when I tell them dili... dapat imbis sige ug reklamo.. maminaw sad unta sa explanation.

My posts aren't intended as personal attacks... they're merely logical counterpoints to your comments based on data available. Sorry if my points run contrary to yours. Why don't we stick to the issue at hand instead of arguing on unrelated points.

And for the record... wala koy labot sa Toyota... dili tika customer... I am just another poster making points that counter yours... so give me data which proves your point so you can convince me... making off handed remarks is just simply OT. Walang personalan... just prove your points.

You also keep on saying nga... gi kapuy na ka.. usually that's the remark of someone that has run out of valid arguments.

yup naa sir ang 3.2 m/t a/t strada naa.

[kikoy203]

nindot gyud tan-awon porma sa Hilux kay elegante kaayo nindot pa gyud ug barog. Masbarato lang ang Dmax, so value for my money Dmax ko... But if ginapiko ginapala ako kwarta, no doubt Hilux jud.

[dymaniac]

Isuzu D-Max ko. Amo pickup nga fuego na dugay na kaayo, nindot kaayo gihapon ang performance. Basta diesel gani. Isuzu gyud has the best diesel engine.

[vipvip68]

Thanks for the input kenny_tiu7.

I was under the impression nga wala because the brochure sa Philippine version sa Strada doesn't mention that feature.

May I know where you got the info?

Thanks.

yup naa sir ang 3.2 m/t a/t strada naa.

[TAMB0K]

Basi ang old brochure na, since bag-o rman ning 3.2L variant sa strada

Anyway between hilux & dmax, dmax ghapon ko hehehe

[Solidus]

I'd go for the Dmax...