Christianity is pagan?

[silent-kill]

well I just want to hear about the christian side since the insist they are the only correct religion.

[lestat1116]

nagwonder lang ko sa movie why man christianity ra ang ilang topic what bout islam n arab countries.. dli sila ka control? NAU EU, Asian U n afrian u.. wat bout middle east? walay union..

[Red.Emano]

before i watched the movie:

i can still remember the very first event when I was taken aback. i was in grade 3 when a childhood friend of mine (may she rest in peace) asked me this:“ngano mag pray man mog statuwa? Di ba, si Jesus ra man unta and God pero ngano mo pray man mo ug lain pa na santos?”

catholicism = religion = paganism

after i watched the video:

i think the promoter of such movie is trying to stress the origin of religion sans the emphasis on the origin of astrology. i wonder when the christians would release a movie to refute such claim.

as far as i know, astrology came first before religion BUT could it be coincidence?
some people would relate astrology to religion and vice versa. different people, different perspective, different beliefs. Thus, the origin of another theory. it’s a cycle. it never ends. who knows, in the next era there might be something called astroligion.

by the way, I don’t like the way the introduction (first link) was presented (kadto murag comical skit gani). I still consider religion as still "tabooish" hence, never a laughing matter.

Do not ever equate ASTROLOGY with Religion, because Astrology itself is a strict and worthwhile, scholarly academic study. Thomas Aquinas, Nicolas Flamel, Isaac Newton, etc. All were adept in the study of Astrology. Religion is something else.

I am saying this because I am a professional Astrologer myself.

Astrology may be used to understand the current events, and the way of thinking of the people at large or at specifics. Klaruha lang imong pasabot anang "Astrology came first from religion" etc. << This does not make sense kay wala man sad connection ang duha, ang Astrology dili man Religion. Astrology is a study and an art, just like as English is a Course of study. Ang religion is a set of beliefs that you are supposed to observe.

There are series of time cycles, and through Astrology, we can understand what's going on. For religion, naay mga symbology nga ginatawag nato ASTROLOGICAL. Just like in Christianity today, ginatawag na ang mga planets, stars, etc. as HEAVENLY BODIES.

Vague ang origin sa Christianismo karun.Naay roman catholic, orthodox, protestant, daghan! Kabalo ka ngano? Lahi ang tawag sa mga Christiano sa panahon adtong personalidad nga ginatawag natong Jesus. Wala sila gitawag nga KRISTIANO. Kung ikaw ga sunod kang Jesus adtong panahon niya, dili man ingon nga nag "convert" na ka. In fact, you are still jewish! Only that you have gained better understanding of your religion! :o Modern day religion today is what we call STRUCTURED. Gipang modify na sa mga new set of officers para ang ordinaryo nga tao makasabot. In time, Nawala na ang iyang TRUE ESSENCE unlike the time of the apostles who hold the uncorrupted knowledge ni Jesus. Although, we cannot deny that all religions speak of truth, -naa gihapon ta'y kamatuuran. The thing is, the original truth, the HIGHER KNOWLEDGE that Jesus spoke of is no longer that made available by religion KAY DILI MAN TANAN KASABOT. What we most religion preaches is EXOTERIC. What higher meaning of Jesus teachings were ESOTERIC.

[Red.Emano]

@Red.Emano i knew about the movie early this year and decided to download it couple of days ago... hhehehe
about it looks like it made sense, did a couple of research and it seems to match.. so what do you think about it?

Most of you have made a dire misunderstanding of the film. It has a couple of points that it wishes to point out. Here are the things that the film wishes to convey:

• We are all under control and that there is a group of people who want to keep us ignorant and want to keep the world running because of their own selfish motives
• Try not to be judgemental about radical thinking and the relationship of our so-called "faith" and "beliefs" with other belief systems. You might not know nga kanang pang pisik pisik ug tubig sa blessing(kanang murag handle nga murag pang scoop sa ice cream) nga ga hawiran sa pari and is filled with water is similar to what Pagans call the ancient Phallus symbol. Diba? Ang phallus, mag pisik pisik man gihapon ug semen. Semen was considered to hold life by ancient people. It has spiritual energy. Mao na diha karun. Do not question this because i know and am credible enough in my studies.
• Religion has become too FAR AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. It has been veiled in allegory in symbols. And those symbols were not interpreted in what they really mean to the public kay kuyaw. Even religionist do not know what the hell their very own religion preaches. Jesus knew better, that is why he spoke in parables etc. kay kung e straight to the point ka, dili man ka maka sabot sa mga SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE! The thing is, most religions have spranged far away from the practicality and essence that they one bore. Ok kaayo ang religion sa mga ordinaryong tao, but if you know more better dig deeper into the ESOTERIC studies. Mary and Isis? Horus and Jesus? Oh come one, you've got to be kidding me. Coincidence? What if I stuff it into your a** ilang similarities with scholarly evidence.
• THINK OUT OF THE BOX.
• Sciences today have all been stolen from the East. That is why, if you think Astrology not to be science then shut and think again. Kay kanang astrology, isa na sa mga sciences of the east. Gi kawat lang na sa mga westerners unya hinay hinay na ug kawala ang iyang Esoteric meanings ayha nahimong Astronomy. Gi seryoso na siya! So is with the other eastern sciences like meditation, traditional chinese medicine, etc. Modern science(western science) has its defects. Bag-o paman. Pero sa eastern science, all are proven effective. Why? Because they treat a person as an embodiment of the whole. Dili parehas sa western concept nga independent ang mind sa tao.

Don't believe us, find it out for yourselves. Just make sure you are OPEN MINDED nga kung makita nimo ang kaanyag take it as a fact. Ayaw pag e wakli. Otherwise, you would be loosing yourself.

This goes to everyone!

[Sinyalan]

politics, religion and economy started by the pagans.

even money came from paganism.... worship money or else you don't have anything to eat, clothes.... internet! hehehehe...

[Existanz]

I'd like to get your reactions on this..
only after you've watch the documentary

its from a documentary film Zeitgeist

intro:
YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie - 1 of 13 (Introduction)

religion:
YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie - 2 of 13 (Part 1 of 3 on Religion)
YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie - 3 of 13 (Part 2 of 3 on Religion)
YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie - 4 of 13 (Part 3 of 3 on Religion)


i encourage everyone to watch the full length movie... and tell me your reaction

Nothing new in here really..of course this god concept started way back when man was still a caveman. It all started in a pagan way. What we have today are rather the refined version of that concept- with fashion.

Religion controlling the people is old news. Man's great civilization were built by religions..god kings.

Marx was right, religion is indeed the opium of the masses. They need it to numb themselves from the seemingly meaningless existence they have. There is just nothing in this world that can replace what religion can offer to an individual face with the dilema and anxiety of the meaning of life.

So that is why up until now religion nowadays is still selling like hotcakes. Despite the booo's and clench fist that had been raised againts it.

Say, what can you offer that is better than the idea of a shinny pearly gate of heaven after one dies?

[Red.Emano]

Nothing new in here really..of course this god concept started way back when man was still a caveman. It all started in a pagan way. What we have today are rather the refined version of that concept- with fashion.

Religion controlling the people is old news. Man's great civilization were built by religions..god kings.

Marx was right, religion is indeed the opium of the masses. They need it to numb themselves from the seemingly meaningless existence they have. There is just nothing in this world that can replace what religion can offer to an individual face with the dilema and anxiety of the meaning of life.

So that is why up until now religion nowadays is still selling like hotcakes. Despite the booo's and clench fist that had been raised againts it.

Say, what can you offer that is better than the idea of a shinny pearly gate of heaven after one dies?

if you view it from a communist materialist point of view. i agree on this.

still, man has so much to offer..his mind is very much powerful.

[silent-kill]

nagwonder lang ko sa movie why man christianity ra ang ilang topic what bout islam n arab countries.. dli sila ka control? NAU EU, Asian U n afrian u.. wat bout middle east? walay union..

i guess its because most US citizen are christian.. so that what the writer focused in

[silent-kill]

Nothing new in here really..of course this god concept started way back when man was still a caveman. It all started in a pagan way. What we have today are rather the refined version of that concept- with fashion.

Religion controlling the people is old news. Man's great civilization were built by religions..god kings.

Marx was right, religion is indeed the opium of the masses. They need it to numb themselves from the seemingly meaningless existence they have. There is just nothing in this world that can replace what religion can offer to an individual face with the dilema and anxiety of the meaning of life.

So that is why up until now religion nowadays is still selling like hotcakes. Despite the booo's and clench fist that had been raised againts it.

Say, what can you offer that is better than the idea of a shinny pearly gate of heaven after one dies?

yeah nothing is new, but its more about the personal experience of other people... because we only live once, so we have to experience things for the first time even if it exist long ago.

well, what i can offer hmmmm... i guess is to open up our minds and investigate the truth or what is currently true.... rather than keeping our heads buried under the sand. also you have to take note even though there's this shinny pearly gate of heaven... there is also the burning sulfur of hell in case you mess up something.

hmmmm... I've notice christians(believer of christ) tends to keep quite when they are presented some sort of 'evidence' but on the other hand they are rather noisy gunning down other religion's belief system somebody explain why

[Existanz]

if you view it from a communist materialist point of view. i agree on this.

still, man has so much to offer..his mind is very much powerful.

No matter how powerful or great one's mind, everything just amount to nothing really when you try to rationalize it to the fact that one's existence will one day cease or to that proverbial question on why are we here. One doesn't need a communist eye view to realize this. Imagine taking away religion from the less fortunate masses (people who's daily existence is a matter of survival)..