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    Quote Originally Posted by esc View Post
    I think ang main point gyud cguro nila is the value for money. That's why they were targeting the stereos the aesthetics sa car design but dili man gud na sala sa seller kay they did not make the design nor can they alter unsa ang oem sa toyota. But what they can do is suggest cguro on how to improve their product so that people will get the value of the car they paid for. The only complaint I have was the way I was made a fool by their "Marketing Professional" If I could call them Professional.
    Bro, u know man kung unsa ka highend imo gi order. dili man me ka stock ana gud bec its very expensive and not fast moving. even ang plant dili mo stock kay basin ma daut lang sa init.
    Actually bro paningkamotan gyud na namo na ma serve ang unit, halin na baya na. kung kabaw lang ka unsa me mamugos sa tig order para lang ma confirm dayon inyong mga unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esc View Post
    I think ang main point gyud cguro nila is the value for money. That's why they were targeting the stereos the aesthetics sa car design but dili man gud na sala sa seller kay they did not make the design nor can they alter unsa ang oem sa toyota. But what they can do is suggest cguro on how to improve their product so that people will get the value of the car they paid for. The only complaint I have was the way I was made a fool by their "Marketing Professional" If I could call them Professional.
    lol. that's why they're called "marketing professionals". they're professional liars. no offense to the sales pips out there, but that's the job you chose. for us customers, we have to live with it. it's our responsibility to NOT get fooled and educate ourselves.

  3. #173

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    Na lingaw lagi ako na na thread ay hahahaha

  4. #174

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    @predo...

    I didnt know kenwood diay ang Avanza.. hehe at least dili Generic.

    Natinga lang ko pag ingon ug Panasonic ang Hilux nga Fujitsu-Ten pa man to last time I looked... hinu-on possible man sad nga gi update sa manufacturer depende sa variant.

    Is the Kenwood Stereo available on the 1.5G nga Avanza only or apil sad ang 1.3J nga grade?
    Last edited by vipvip68; 09-05-2008 at 03:40 AM.

  5. #175

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    ka luoy sad oi...

    Dili sad siguro tanan marketing people bakakon... some will tell you upfront unsay tinuod. For me its not really whether bakakon sya... its whether maayo sya or dili.

    I've even come across sales agents who discourage you from buying a particular model even if wala silay stock ato.. and the item you wanted to buy is on stock nila.

    It's not just about lying or deceiving customers... it's about building relationships where customers feel at ease and are guided in making decision. If the customer is satisfied... he/she will come back for repeat purchase...This is what separates a good marketing professional from a bad one... if customer feels nga gi ilad sila... there's something wrong there and that customer definitely won't be coming back for more.

    Grabe sad nga mangingilad nalang tanan.... asa man diay na' gikan ang term nga "suki". Syaro wala kay ka deal nga mu consider nimo as "suki" niya... a good example would be a barber / hairdresser.

    Wala gyud kay dag-anan making sweeping statements like that.. bisag butangan pa nimong "no offense".. daghan tao diri mu make a living on sales.. they're all marketing professionals... and ur telling them nga they're all liars..



    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    lol. that's why they're called "marketing professionals". they're professional liars. no offense to the sales pips out there, but that's the job you chose. for us customers, we have to live with it. it's our responsibility to NOT get fooled and educate ourselves.
    Last edited by vipvip68; 09-05-2008 at 04:00 AM.

  6. #176

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    Quote Originally Posted by predo View Post
    @bostonfan
    wala man ko nangaway nila. i tryd to explain kung unsa pro dili man cla maminaw.

    @T1CODE
    Only avanza has kenwood stereo. Hilux has fujitsu. sayop ang 1st brochure gi butang panasonic.
    bro makig pustaanay ko nimo naay panasonic nga stereo ang hi-lux...

    deal? hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by predo View Post
    Bro, u know man kung unsa ka highend imo gi order. dili man me ka stock ana gud bec its very expensive and not fast moving. even ang plant dili mo stock kay basin ma daut lang sa init.
    Actually bro paningkamotan gyud na namo na ma serve ang unit, halin na baya na. kung kabaw lang ka unsa me mamugos sa tig order para lang ma confirm dayon inyong mga unit.
    Dili mana mao akong complaints regarding sa order akong gikasuk-an is the guy keeps on promising man gud that mo-abot na then wala diay to. From a week nahimu gud around a month. Akong pinakalagot is the point na he said ni-abot na then i went to the showroom only to find out na sayop diay to siya kay sa aboitiz daw kuno to na unit. Do you call that profesionalism Don't keep on promising something you couldn't keep. Like cge lang ingon " in 3 weeks" "maga 1 week lang" "3 days abot na gyud sure gyud ko kay nag meeting na among boss" "abot na gyud" . Makalagot man gud na it is better unta straight out nalang na ingnon we aren't sure yet when it will arrive rather then your "marketing Professional" keep on making empty promise.

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    watch mode nalng ko ani,,, popcorn thread... ma close nasad ni na thread.. hehehe

  9. #179

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    Quote Originally Posted by esc View Post
    Dili mana mao akong complaints regarding sa order akong gikasuk-an is the guy keeps on promising man gud that mo-abot na then wala diay to. From a week nahimu gud around a month. Akong pinakalagot is the point na he said ni-abot na then i went to the showroom only to find out na sayop diay to siya kay sa aboitiz daw kuno to na unit. Do you call that profesionalism Don't keep on promising something you couldn't keep. Like cge lang ingon " in 3 weeks" "maga 1 week lang" "3 days abot na gyud sure gyud ko kay nag meeting na among boss" "abot na gyud" . Makalagot man gud na it is better unta straight out nalang na ingnon we aren't sure yet when it will arrive rather then your "marketing Professional" keep on making empty promise.
    sayop 2 niya bro ni resign naman sad c TJ. In my part ill estimate 2wiks more or less. pro depende ra sad gyud na sa availability sa plant. Once ill be adviced by our officer na confirm na ang unit, ill promise a wik na ma abot ang unit kay sometime naay delay sa shipment, usually shipment is 2days lang. ill also suggest to look at other dealers kung naa available unit. Lisod baya kung excited na kaayo ta.

    Pero karon hapit na mo abot ug 2wiks ang shipment kay grounded man sulpicio.

  10. #180

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    Quote Originally Posted by esc View Post
    I think ang main point gyud cguro nila is the value for money. That's why they were targeting the stereos the aesthetics sa car design but dili man gud na sala sa seller kay they did not make the design nor can they alter unsa ang oem sa toyota. But what they can do is suggest cguro on how to improve their product so that people will get the value of the car they paid for. The only complaint I have was the way I was made a fool by their "Marketing Professional" If I could call them Professional.
    as what ive know.. toyota japan designed the stereo.. look at the rav4

    and rav4 stereo isnt fujitsu ten
    even hi ace super grandia is not.

    almost all the mpv's are the ones with fujitsu ten stereos except for some hi-lux model

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