RELIGION

[Obese Bo Ricardo]

dili ba na a kind of Weapon? Kato ganing nabalita gani nga nabuthan ang tulo or duha ka bata kay tungod sa bala sa RPG nga ilang gikawt sa yuta?? WHY AM I Answering this post??

murag off topic nako da

OT: Di kay interactive man daw na kunuhay mga litanya... but in essence, they're all "premeditated recitations". I was referring to "Role Playing" as each one has a role to recite and a cue...... nothing to do with Rocket Propelled devices really...

[bad donkey!]

kabalo ko sa standing sa akoang spirit brad...nagtakilid ko.but i do not go as far as pointing fingers to other religions that what they are doing is wrong..we have the right to worship God in our own way and the right to interpret the bible in our own way..Just like what every other religion is doing....Parehas rata brad nga makasasala..Even if you live by the word of God you are not exempted from judgment..Good or bad you still have to go through judgement...Everybody is given equal chance to ask forgiveness from God..Hilas kaau paminawn nga tao ra ta unya mudecide mo sa fate sa us ka tao..diba?

[nvr_mind]

Each one of us is free to choose his own religion. We are also free to convince others or let them know what we believe.

We are also free to ask why we/they believe. Who are we to judge, when we too shall be judged. If you choose unbelief, then you only have to blame yourself when you can't find purpose in living. If you choose to believe, make sure you are in the true path.

Man's longing for a connection to his Creator led him to create his religion and his god, in his own likeness and being. What for? Why the need to connect? Why the longing? Did the true and living God reveal himself to us? Is mine a "feel good" religion, or because it is the religion of our fathers? Should I believe the bible or should I believe the RCC teaching, in lieu of the bible? Should I believe the preacher when he contradicts what I learned from the bible?

Where will I go when I die? How good am I to merit entry to heaven?

Peace!!!

[MrBiddle]

Man's longing for a connection to his Creator led him to create his religion and his god, in his own likeness and being.Â* Â*What for?Â* Why the need to connect?Â* Â*Why the longing?Â* Did the true and living God reveal himself to us?Â* Is mine a "feel good" religion, or because it is the religion of our fathers?Â* Should I believe the bible or should I believe the RCC teaching, in lieu of the bible?Â* Should I believe the preacher when he contradicts what I learned from the bible?

Where will I go when I die?Â* How good am I to merit entry to heaven?Â*

I'm almost sureÂ* know the answer to your question, so answer it More like a pop quiz, I know the answer to it too... you can't merit your entry to Heaven.

But I'll leave it to you to share

[mannyamador]

More fantasies. Kindly cite the exact incidents that support your absurd claims. You can't, can you?

The Catholic Church existed on Pentecost. It's first temporal head was Peter. All of the fundamental insitutions of the catholic Church existed in Apostolic times, and were not merely added in after 200 years. These included the Papacy, priesthood, local councils, bishops, the Mass, etc. And it was the catholic Church that put together the Bible, preserved it, translated it, and even got around to printing the firstr ones! Read your history.

Except for the last part you are right. Catholic church NOT Roman Catholic Church.

Same Church. The term "Roman Catholic Church" was coined mainly by the Anglicans. The Church refers to itself as the Catholic Church. And it's the oroginal Church Christ founded. So far you have jot been able to even cite when and where the "break" occurred. That's not suprrising because no such break ever occurred. If you disagree, then I challenge you to prove it. So far you have failed to do so.

Zec. 4: 14, Rev. 11: 6 (Two Testaments will even be witheld by Rome, persecuted and killed in the days of tribulation symbolized by 3 and 1/2 or 42 months as in Elijah's time James 5: 17, Luke 5: 25 )To better understand the anointing, 1 Jn 2: 27 and 1 Pet. 3: 15, 2 Pet. 1: 19

Now that's a fanciful PERSONAL INTERPRETATION! And it's a lie. There's nothing in those verses that states that Christians should compile a single book and base their entire faith on it. You're grasping at straws!

Here are the verses, just so people will see that you're peddling lies. These verses in no way support your silly interpretation.

Zec. 4:14
He said, "These are the two anointed 2 who
stand by the LORD of the whole earth."

James 5:17
Elijah was a human being like us; yet he prayed
earnestly that it might not rain, and for three years and six
months it did not rain upon the land.

Luke 5:25
He stood up immediately before them, picked
up what he had been lying on, and went home, glorifying
God.

1 Jn. 2:27
As for you, the anointing that you received
from him remains in you, so that you do not need anyone
to teach you. But his anointing teaches you about everything
and is true and not false; just as it taught you, remain in him.

1 Pet. 3:15
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts. Always
be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a
reason for your hope,

2 Pet. 1:19
Moreover, we possess the prophetic message that is
altogether reliable. You will do well to be attentive to it, as to a
lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and the morning star
rises in your hearts.

Now does anyone see anything in these verses that commands we should compile a single book and make it the one and only basis for our faith? None eh? I thought so.

Biddle, you are lying outright or engaging in the most absurd twisting of Scriopture I have ever encounterd. What garbage!

[MrBiddle]

Luke 5: 25, did you quote the whole verse?Â* but anyway the one in James (5: 17) is something I wanted you to see so people might understand that 42 months 3.5 years or 1260 days is a symbol of trial and tribulation.....

Now that this is done, try read Revelation. 11 the whole of it.... it says that the Two Witnesses (New and Old Testament) will prophecy. Which they did.... they will be "killed" indeed they were supressed and the clergy had the excuse of supressing it as to prevent the spread of "rampant heresy" from private interpreters..... they indeed gloated (the clergy) because they managed to supress the truth and hence the famine and hunger for God's Word (Amos 8: 11 ) People indeed refused them "burial" as many tried to get a hold of the Latin translations - at least for those who understood it.... and God gave them life again when Tyndale's English translation came out of Guttenburg's machine. See the interesting allegory of turning water into blood and shutting up the sky; symbols for the Law (Moses) and the prophets (Elijah)

Now all the clergy can do is misdirect people with material like the weekday missal, anything that alludes or takes offense to the Roman faith must be kept from view from the masses.

But even if the clergy or divine impostors endorse the Bible and have it read every day (in Fatima, this is what the apparition said), the wormwood (Rev. 8: 11 )of the clergy is poisonous enough to sow perdition on those who think they are alive, but are spiritually dead (Rev. 3: 1 ) much like those who were in Sardis.

So although it isn't stated explicitly? If we look for a deeper search of truth in the errors of heterodox, indeed the New and the Old Testament are the two (Zec. 4: 14 ) even the only two who will prophecy for the Lord of the earth.

1 Jn. 2:27
As for you, the anointing that you received
from him remains in you, so that you do not need anyone
to teach you. But his anointing teaches you about everything
and is true and not false; just as it taught you, remain in him.

This one - so people might understand what "anointing" means. The olive tree and the oil is a symbol.

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The statement it is written word was frequently bandied though before the documents were compiled into "The Books"... but that doesn't mean Canon wasn't existent before the 4th century.... it already was as early as 170 A.D. and way earlier than that, the most infallible source of spiritual discernment were The Documents.... Sadly, there were those who were regarded as prominent theologians and their supposed epistles have been followed by many - especially right after the first generation Christians have died.

[MrBiddle]

Mannyamaddor, di ba ka si Manny Lapinkaw? (sp?) Kay murag maghuhuni pud na siya gawas kung sangay ra'y naa nimo niya

[bad donkey!]

More fantasies. Kindly cite the exact incidents that support your absurd claims. You can't, can you?

The Catholic Church existed on Pentecost. It's first temporal head was Peter. All of the fundamental insitutions of the catholic Church existed in Apostolic times, and were not merely added in after 200 years. These included the Papacy, priesthood, local councils, bishops, the Mass, etc. And it was the catholic Church that put together the Bible, preserved it, translated it, and even got around to printing the firstr ones! Read your history.

Except for the last part you are right. Catholic church NOT Roman Catholic Church.

Same Church. The term "Roman Catholic Church" was coined mainly by the Anglicans. The Church refers to itself as the Catholic Church. And it's the oroginal Church Christ founded. So far you have jot been able to even cite when and where the "break" occurred. That's not suprrising because no such break ever occurred. If you disagree, then I challenge you to prove it. So far you have failed to do so.

Zec. 4: 14, Rev. 11: 6 (Two Testaments will even be witheld by Rome, persecuted and killed in the days of tribulation symbolized by 3 and 1/2 or 42 months as in Elijah's time James 5: 17, Luke 5: 25 )To better understand the anointing, 1 Jn 2: 27 and 1 Pet. 3: 15, 2 Pet. 1: 19

Now that's a fanciful PERSONAL INTERPRETATION! And it's a lie. There's nothing in those verses that states that Christians should compile a single book and base their entire faith on it. You're grasping at straws!

Here are the verses, just so people will see that you're peddling lies. These verses in no way support your silly interpretation.

Zec. 4:14
He said, "These are the two anointed 2 who
stand by the LORD of the whole earth."

James 5:17
Elijah was a human being like us; yet he prayed
earnestly that it might not rain, and for three years and six
months it did not rain upon the land.

Luke 5:25
He stood up immediately before them, picked
up what he had been lying on, and went home, glorifying
God.

1 Jn. 2:27
As for you, the anointing that you received
from him remains in you, so that you do not need anyone
to teach you. But his anointing teaches you about everything
and is true and not false; just as it taught you, remain in him.

1 Pet. 3:15
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts. Always
be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a
reason for your hope,

2 Pet. 1:19
Moreover, we possess the prophetic message that is
altogether reliable. You will do well to be attentive to it, as to a
lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and the morning star
rises in your hearts.

Now does anyone see anything in these verses that commands we should compile a single book and make it the one and only basis for our faith? None eh? I thought so.

Biddle, you are lying outright or engaging in the most absurd twisting of Scriopture I have ever encounterd. What garbage!

hmmmm...i don't see or read anything that we should compile a book and base our faith on a book...

[MrBiddle]

Bad Donkey, read some earlier posts no, NOT way back maybe just a page back, there is and it's NOT we per se who will compile it

And read my post on the geographical, historical meaning of the 11th chapter of the last book.

[karl007]

This is my first time sa kani nga thread.... naunsa mani dri! is this really for politics? kuyawards naman ta sa mga taw dri. it seems nga naa pud diay mga pastor og pare dri grabe gud!