Faith ALONE can save us?

[boxingfan529]

Pagchure oi!
How sure are you that this is what God wants?
If God wanted us to believe, He simply show himself to us.
Why need to complicate things.
He should have left a writing on the wall or something.

read the bible and you will see that it is God's revelation of Himself to us.

1 corith 2

9However, as it is written:
"No eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no mind has conceived
what God has prepared for those who love him"— 10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.

even the heavens (nature) declares the Glory of God. we have no excuse that God is not reaching His love towards us. remember, the scriptures are the LOVE LETTER FROM GOD.

[boxingfan529]

Amen to that (last line only)!

when you said amen, who should define the nature of God? for sure, it is not man himself.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

when you said amen, who should define the nature of God? for sure, it is not man himself.

then, there is no need for us, Man, to define the nature of God.

[tokidoki]

only god knows god. so i would just say it is simply wrong that anyone would tell me: this is god's way... it is his word... this is what he wants....

murag "what the **** do you know who, how or what he is?!!" if that is what he told you then he can simply tell me the same thing.

"god works in mysterious and indirect ways" you say? that's still a line from someone who claims to know who he is.

Penn from the show Bullsh*t rephrased that line by saying: "God works in cryptic and inefficient ways of spreading his word." That was after they scrutinized the 10 plagues of Egypt (which they also showed never happend) by saying that instead of just telling the Pharaoh himself iya pa gyud daw gipaagi ug 10 plagues. He could simply have saved all the trouble by saying so.

Some people like to paint a portrait of a god that likes to mock and manipulate people in twisted ways.

[munzter666]

only god knows god. so i would just say it is simply wrong that anyone would tell me: this is god's way... it is his word... this is what he wants....

murag "what the **** do you know who, how or what he is?!!" if that is what he told you then he can simply tell me the same thing.

"god works in mysterious and indirect ways" you say? that's still a line from someone who claims to know who he is.

Penn from the show Bullsh*t rephrased that line by saying: "God works in cryptic and inefficient ways of spreading his word." That was after they scrutinized the 10 plagues of Egypt (which they also showed never happend) by saying that instead of just telling the Pharaoh himself iya pa gyud daw gipaagi ug 10 plagues. He could simply have saved all the trouble by saying so.

Some people like to paint a portrait of a god that likes to mock and manipulate people in twisted ways.

haha nice one.

murag "what the **** do you know who, how or what he is?!!" if that is what he told you then he can simply tell me the same thing.

then they tell you...you dont have the holy speret with you, that's why.haha

*that's questioning the basis of their own claims...and some people retaliate with threats of hellfire and brimstone.haha*

[tokidoki]

*that's questioning the basis of their own claims...and some people retaliate with threats of hellfire and brimstone.haha*

Too bad those things don't exist. Sama pa sa joke sa Priest vs Judge: When I say you be hanged you ARE hanged! LOL

Why is it, noh, we are open to scrutiny and the other side isn't. I mean, isn't that a little unfair?

That's like bunalan ka sa imo mama kai ni question ka sa iyang puung.

[munzter666]

^those are defense mechanisms kicking in, typical human nature.

old habits die hard....so last century, "how dare you question this FAITH!" BAM!! you can get killed for such heresy.LOLz that's why freethinkers went underground.haha

[bahiista]

FAITH alone cannot save you..

[boxingfan529]

Amen to that (last line only)!

then, there is no need for us, Man, to define the nature of God.

correct!

[boxingfan529]

only god knows god. so i would just say it is simply wrong that anyone would tell me: this is god's way... it is his word... this is what he wants....

murag "what the **** do you know who, how or what he is?!!" if that is what he told you then he can simply tell me the same thing.

"god works in mysterious and indirect ways" you say? that's still a line from someone who claims to know who he is.

Penn from the show Bullsh*t rephrased that line by saying: "God works in cryptic and inefficient ways of spreading his word." That was after they scrutinized the 10 plagues of Egypt (which they also showed never happend) by saying that instead of just telling the Pharaoh himself iya pa gyud daw gipaagi ug 10 plagues. He could simply have saved all the trouble by saying so.

Some people like to paint a portrait of a god that likes to mock and manipulate people in twisted ways.

then God is not God if He wont reveal Himself to man. in other word's He is non-existent.