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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    bro gud am. as all i understand about Muslims, their beliefs are very different from Christians. but good to know now that you consider the Bible as the basis of someones doctrines. (correct me if im wrong)

    well, we consider Adam,Noah,Abraham,Moses,Jesus as our prophets. We also believe in Mary tho we dont show veneration to her.

    The race were Mohammad(pbuh) came can be trace to Ishmael,then to Ibrahim(Abraham). Jesus(pbuh) roots can be trace back to Isaq(Isaac) then to again Ibrahim.Then Ibrahim to Adam.

    From this perspective in my opinion i can say that these two FAITHS came from one source and along the way as race diversified so was religion. BUT we have to go back to that one religion handed by God to Adam,and forgive me i have to say this,hehe,well, i dont need to say it. I think by now kabalo mo kung unsa akong isulti,hehe.Bias sa? LOLZ @me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Sir this was your post. I already gave you an answer.

    Your next post in relation to your 1st question has in my opinion diverted from your orginal intention.
    diverted from my original intention? huh? well sir, i just want a concrete answer from a muslim like you, if you indeed have a devotion for her (not as mother of God) but as your koran said Blessed of all women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    diverted from my original intention? huh? well sir, i just want a concrete answer from a muslim like you, if you indeed have a devotion for her (not as mother of God) but as your koran said Blessed of all women?

    So when a verse in the Qur'an says that she is blessed,to you it means devotion? define devotion sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    So when a verse in the Qur'an says that she is blessed,to you it means devotion? define devotion sir.
    what i mean sir, if you look Mary as above all women on earth and on paradise? as what Mohammed said regarding her daughter Fatima.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    what i mean sir, if you look Mary as above all women on earth and on paradise? as what Mohammed said regarding her daughter Fatima.
    sir wala nako kasabot sa imong mga ponto,basha ug balik imong first question and explain how is it related to your other questions, I dont know if its me or you are just so incoherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    sir wala nako kasabot sa imong mga ponto,basha ug balik imong first question and explain how is it related to your other questions, I dont know if its me or you are just so incoherent.
    ..then just forget it. you refused to understand a simple question.. thanks anyways..

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoseph View Post
    that the RCC may have actually been somehow linked to or somehow descended from the original churches? The RCC may not be as totally Roman as others might think otherwise.
    (St.) Paul a.k.a. Saul of Tarsus and (Emperor) Constantinus invented Roman Catholicism.

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    And Paul is not linked to the original churches?

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    The Roman Catholic and the Assyrian Churches seems to bear some semblance with each other, and if the Assyrian Church preserved faithfully the teachings of the apostles, then is that not a clue that the RCC may have actually been somehow linked to or somehow descended from the original churches? The RCC may not be as totally Roman as others might think otherwise.
    ---from geoseph


    Sir this is a different point already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    The Roman Catholic and the Assyrian Churches seems to bear some semblance with each other, and if the Assyrian Church preserved faithfully the teachings of the apostles, then is that not a clue that the RCC may have actually been somehow linked to or somehow descended from the original churches? The RCC may not be as totally Roman as others might think otherwise.
    ---from geoseph

    Sir this is a different point already.
    Malic bai, thanks for really reading it. Your observation is good. It does look like a "sandwich provision" (something out of scope inserted between others that are in scope, perhaps for a personal agenda).

    That post was in response to your earlier post (quoted below), which I meant to answer two ways:

    1. To address immediately the lineage issue regarding the Roman Catholic Church and indirectly (by implication), the reform and independent churches, since a conclusion was made about them that I did not intend.

    2. To clarify the meaning and intent of the post itself with the hope to minimize conclusions I did not intend.

    To emphasize that there were two points, the "---" between paragraphs was used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    as you can see that before Roman Catholicism there were churches already being established. Are you saying sir that ROMAN catholicsim is the oldest church?

    If Roman catholicism is not the oldest church then i think they must have a direct lineage to the oldest church to be acknowledge as a legitimate christian church. i just borrowed your principle here sir,when you mentioned about breakaways of other churches and how they are not credible because they are not in direct lineage to RCC. Not catholicism sir ha but Romano catholica.
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    If you meant that it's not directly about Sola Scriptura (since it's about lineage), you are correct. The only way I see to tie it up somehow with Sola Scriptura is with a previous point about how literature (i.e. sola scriptura), lineage, and prophecy might be complementary with each other.

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