Second Look on Islam

[Malic]

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Watch this video "The Muslim Jesus"

YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 1 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 2 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 3 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 4 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 5 of 5


Very interesting.

[jdimpas]

@jdimpas

you are in KSA?

when you pee standing the liquid tends to splash everywhere. You are in a country where there are practicing muslims and they pee sitting down. It would be unclean for them to sit on a place where someone else's urine is present.


Muslims pee sitting down for ethical purposes. Its also healthier to pee sitting down.When you sit you put pressure on the bladder which helps it to empty more completely and you dont get to touch something too,hehe.

Yes I worked here in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

that time i was urinating on flat bowl elevated in the floor "squat toilet", even if my urine splashes on the bowl there's no instance that their butt touches the bowl.



well, anyway there's no "Mushkella" with me. I respect them co'z they are muslims and I'm here in their country.

but still I'm standing while I pee but now I'm closing the door so that they can't notice.. hehehe!
really I can't imagine sitting during a pee..hehehe!

[necrotic freak]

Watch this video "The Muslim Jesus"

YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 1 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 2 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 3 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 4 of 5
YouTube - The Muslim Jesus part 5 of 5


Very interesting.

It's not...

[brownprose]

wow...i've learned so much about this thread (not to mention the pee, it was really interesting, hehehee)...kudos to Malic for those new things and new ideas. May your tribe increase sir!

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh!

[m1000]

It's not...

i agree. Jesus Christ Himself claims to be God.

JOHN 10:22-39

Jesus Asserts His Deity

22 Then, in the winter time, came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. 23 Jesus was there, walking about on Solomon's Porch in the temple. 24 The Jews gathered about Him and said to Him, "How long will you keep our minds in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us so openly."
25 Jesus answered them, "I have told you, yet you will not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name bear witness for Me. 26 But, as for you, you do not believe because you are not My sheep, as I have told you. 27 My sheep listen to My voice and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them everlasting life. They shall never, never die, nor shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father who gave them to Me is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are One!"

Jesus' Defense Before the Mob

31 Then the Jews once more took up stones to throw at Him. 32 Jesus answered them, "Many a good deed have I shown you from My Father. For which are you going to stone Me?" 33 They said, "We are not going to stone you for any good work, but for blasphemy, because you, a man, make yourself God." 34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, you are gods'? (Exodus 22:28; Psalm 82:6). 35 So God calls them gods to whom He spoke, and the Scripture cannot be set aside. 36 Do you then accuse of blasphemy Him whom the Father has consecrated and sent into the world, because He said,'I am the Son of God'? 37 If I am not doing the works of My Father. then do not believe Me. 38 But if I am doing them, then believe the works even if you don't believe Me. You will thus understand and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him." 39 They tried again to seize Him, but He escaped from their hands.



John 14:5-14

5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 [B]If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, all who have faith in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

[Malic]

@jdimpas

As ive said,its a muslim culture. with a toilet like that there is a big chance that your liquid will splash anywhere,hehe.

We are supposed to be humans and not dogs,hehe. or any animals that pees anywhere and allow it to splash around.


While there, try to visit a mosque and post it here. hehe.

[Malic]

wow...i've learned so much about this thread (not to mention the pee, it was really interesting, hehehee)...kudos to Malic for those new things and new ideas. May your tribe increase sir!

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh!

Thanks Sir Brownprose. May your tribe increase as well.

Wa alaikum salam!

[necrotic freak]

i agree. Jesus Christ Himself claims to be God.

JOHN 10:22-39

Jesus Asserts His Deity

22 Then, in the winter time, came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. 23 Jesus was there, walking about on Solomon's Porch in the temple. 24 The Jews gathered about Him and said to Him, "How long will you keep our minds in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us so openly."
25 Jesus answered them, "I have told you, yet you will not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name bear witness for Me. 26 But, as for you, you do not believe because you are not My sheep, as I have told you. 27 My sheep listen to My voice and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them everlasting life. They shall never, never die, nor shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father who gave them to Me is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are One!"

Jesus' Defense Before the Mob

31 Then the Jews once more took up stones to throw at Him. 32 Jesus answered them, "Many a good deed have I shown you from My Father. For which are you going to stone Me?" 33 They said, "We are not going to stone you for any good work, but for blasphemy, because you, a man, make yourself God." 34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, you are gods'? (Exodus 22:28; Psalm 82:6). 35 So God calls them gods to whom He spoke, and the Scripture cannot be set aside. 36 Do you then accuse of blasphemy Him whom the Father has consecrated and sent into the world, because He said,'I am the Son of God'? 37 If I am not doing the works of My Father. then do not believe Me. 38 But if I am doing them, then believe the works even if you don't believe Me. You will thus understand and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him." 39 They tried again to seize Him, but He escaped from their hands.



John 14:5-14

5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 [B]If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, all who have faith in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

thank you for your apologetics bro..

im not sure if thats the video that i have seen before regarding the muslim Jesus, bcoz the film claimed that the Jesus that was crucified is not the real Jesus, they say that the real Jesus was taken by God/Allah to heaven to escape the crucifixion.... Wow!

[Malic]

i agree. Jesus Christ Himself claims to be God.

JOHN 10:22-39

Jesus Asserts His Deity

22 Then, in the winter time, came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. 23 Jesus was there, walking about on Solomon's Porch in the temple. 24 The Jews gathered about Him and said to Him, "How long will you keep our minds in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us so openly."
25 Jesus answered them, "I have told you, yet you will not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name bear witness for Me. 26 But, as for you, you do not believe because you are not My sheep, as I have told you. 27 My sheep listen to My voice and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them everlasting life. They shall never, never die, nor shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father who gave them to Me is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are One!"

Jesus' Defense Before the Mob

31 Then the Jews once more took up stones to throw at Him. 32 Jesus answered them, "Many a good deed have I shown you from My Father. For which are you going to stone Me?" 33 They said, "We are not going to stone you for any good work, but for blasphemy, because you, a man, make yourself God." 34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, you are gods'? (Exodus 22:28; Psalm 82:6). 35 So God calls them gods to whom He spoke, and the Scripture cannot be set aside. 36 Do you then accuse of blasphemy Him whom the Father has consecrated and sent into the world, because He said,'I am the Son of God'? 37 If I am not doing the works of My Father. then do not believe Me. 38 But if I am doing them, then believe the works even if you don't believe Me. You will thus understand and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him." 39 They tried again to seize Him, but He escaped from their hands.



John 14:5-14

5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 [B]If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, all who have faith in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Interesting point of view.

(vs 30)---I and the Father are one? Yes, one in purpose.

(Verse 33)--- The jews MISTAKENLY took the previous verse(vs 30) to mean that He is also God

Jesus then explained the context...contnue to the next verses pls dont stop at 30 and be at the same footing as the jews who mistakenly took Jesus as The God.

(verses 34-36) whats the context? Jesus said,that according to scriptures that anyone who speaks for HIM(God) can be called god(vs35---So God calls them gods to whom He spoke, and the Scripture cannot be set aside.) Then Jesus continued and said (vs36---Do you then accuse of blasphemy Him whom the Father has consecrated and sent into the world, because He said,'I am the Son of God'?)

Therefore its not a blasphemy to call himself a god because the scripture allows it. But the context of the word god there is not God as in YWHV but just god. And since God has one purpose and Jesus was commanded to do the Father's will in that since they are one.


My brother you took John 14:5-14 literally.

Here is a verse `You have never seen God' (John 5:37).

Are you saying then by quoting Jn14:5-14 to mean that the people who was with Jesus specially Phillip had seen God? if that is so then obviously your bible is inconsistent.

Never in the Bible did Jesus said out from his own mouth that He is God,well at least according to my knowledge, if you have a verse that shows unequivocally where Jesus said that i am God then i ask you to post it.


Another point...

The Father is God, Jesus is God? you have two Gods then. According to the christian doctrine of trinity ,each is a person, each has its own will? how can 2 persons with different will be ONE?

If one of the identical triplet committed a murder would that mean that all of them have committed the murder? No,of course. why? because the 3 are different persons. But in Trinity you have the Father as a person,Jesus as a person, Holy spirit as a person but these 3 persons are ONE,hmm? Is that english? Sounds english to me. In english,are 3 persons be one? NO.

Jesus was circumsized, God got circumsized? God forbid.

There is only one God and God can not be circumsized,if you know what i mean. In Islam we call it Tauhid or tawheed.


Salam!

[Malic]

thank you for your apologetics bro..

im not sure if thats the video that i have seen before regarding the muslim Jesus, bcoz the film claimed that the Jesus that was crucified is not the real Jesus, they say that the real Jesus was taken by God/Allah to heaven to escape the crucifixion.... Wow!

Yes wow, amazing or was it shocking?