SONA ni GMA 2008

[jonjie_b]

hmn. i do read. but i guess you work for her hence why you stoically defend her. and yes i do have the gall not to kiss ass like you giddyboy hence why u feel giddy with your president. btw if i dont read then why can i understand what you are saying and even comprehend what your saying. i guess you think most istoryans here are illiterate or maybe blind like well...you.

[LytSlpr]

@giddyboy: save your breath, there is no point in talking to people who have already made up their minds and refuse to objectively talk about the truth, the tangible and the measurable.

they just hate GMA period. heck, I don't love GMA but I saw what she did, that's simply it.

if GMA will become prime minister of the first federal-parliament, mag hikog na gyud na sila sa inggit.

[jonjie_b]

truth. the legal truth or absolute truth? either way i dont see any of it in her. personally i dont hate her..the rest of us just dont see anything happening i guess.

[giddyboy]

@giddyboy: save your breath, there is no point in talking to people who have already made up their minds and refuse to objectively talk about the truth, the tangible and the measurable.

they just hate GMA period. heck, I don't love GMA but I saw what she did, that's simply it.

if GMA will become prime minister of the first federal-parliament, mag hikog na gyud na sila sa inggit.

so true. murag lemming bah. and they even call me now a PGMA fan or even someone who works for her...what a bull.

and i didn't even mean to read & comprehend what i'm posting. what i meant was read & comprehend the SONA's full text first before blabbing anything about it...

and now i'm the one being blind na karon...tsk, tsk, tsk. that's a lot of bull. no point.

[jonjie_b]

awwww i think u need a hug. u guys can never take one's opinion as it is. i was not even talking about you but you had to react acting as if you were intellectually superior because u were for her. defend her how u like. dont start saying some here dont read and understand what we read. it is when you cross that boundary that u catch other people's attention. i for one never started calling you out till you started to insinuate how little education i have because i happen to say something negative about her. but then well... who knows what you think i still think you need a hug buddy boy.

[LytSlpr]

truth. the legal truth or absolute truth? either way i dont see any of it in her. personally i dont hate her..the rest of us just dont see anything happening i guess.

in the philippines, almost all politicians lie. heck, FG being the king of smugglers and the Arroyos making PCSO their milking cow could be most likely true but adto na lang ta sa who lies lesser, less corrupt and has done more. i bet if si mar roxas, pangilinan, villar, gordon or fernando pa ang ibutang diha naa lang gihapon kisaw, kay di man opposition ang ga-lingkod bisan "relatively clean" ang leader.

nag samok2x ba ang partido sa administrasyon kadtong ang oposisyon ni lingkod pareho sa ilang pag samok2x karon? wa ra sa kumingking. bogo lang gyud ang opsisyon, kay tungod sa ilang kahugaw ang mga tawo na gyud ang nagpapahawa nila sa pwesto.

moreover, wala'y moral authority ang mga detractors ni GMA kay mas naa pa man sila'y bahid sa corruption kaysa niya. mao bitaw ng di na lang ta ana nila kay hilasan ta. mura baya ug mga limpyo ug na'ay nabuhat sa ilang panahon.

if naa ta'y mabutang diha nga mura ug santo papa ka honest ug mura'g lee kwan yew molihok, hala go! pero mentras tanto, mantiniran lang usa na nato si GMA.

ana ra gyud ka realistic ug practical akong pagpaminsar ani nga isyu.

[jonjie_b]

in the philippines, almost all politicians lie. adto na lang ta sa who lies lesser and has done more.

if naa ta'y mabutang diha nga mura ug santo papa ka honest ug mura'g lee kwan yew molihok, hala go! pero mentras tanto, mantiniran lang usa na nato si GMA.

ana ra gyud ka realistic ug practical akong pagpaminsar ani nga isyu.

i would have to agree with you on this one mate. but i doubt if she has done alot. well no one has these years actually. i do agree with you that its practical nga mantiniran..wala naman ta mabuhat gud. and thats the sad reality of it.

[giddyboy]

awwww i think u need a hug. u guys can never take one's opinion as it is. i was not even talking about you but you had to react acting as if you were intellectually superior because u were for her. defend her how u like. dont start saying some here dont read and understand what we read. it is when you cross that boundary that u catch other people's attention. i for one never started calling you out till you started to insinuate how little education i have because i happen to say something negative about her. but then well... who knows what you think i still think you need a hug buddy boy.

OT:
yeah, and some opinions really need check and balance...even mine. even columnists'.

how can i take ur opinion when i am not agreeable to it? how can i take it when u use terms such as "***-starved dwarf", "too short to see the horizon", and "SONA is bullsh*t"?

That's how forums work. U can't take an opinion as it is, but u talk about it, debate about it, argue about it with another opinion...

i am not showing off as if i am superior. I'm just making my points of argument.

yeah, there is what we call "respect of opinion" but how can we respect it when that opinion cannot even be respectable in the first place?...

i think ur the one that needs a hug.

now let's talk about the SONA...

I'm not a PGMA fan but what she said in her speech (for me) is fair and measurable.

Is it the truth? well, depends on what truth u prefer. As what has been in the script "Hero" (played by Dustin Hoffman as Bernard LaPlante):

"People are always talking to you about truth. Everybody always knows what the truth is, like it was toilet paper or something & they got a supply in the closet. But what you learn as you get older is that there ain't no truth. All there is, is Bullshit, layers of it. One layer of Bullshit layered on top of another. And what you do in life, like as you get older, is you pick the layer of Bullshit you prefer, & it's your Bullshit."

and i think this is kinda the thing u r implying...

[jonjie_b]

i dont need one i am not as lonely as you.

wait i called gloria a *** starved dwarf why are u mad about that it? unless...i rest my case

hey i was talking about the sona until u started reacting acting all superior. so a columnist are u..write much lately? aside from the forums calling people lemmings that is.

bring it.

[giddyboy]

i dont need one i am not as lonely as you.

wait i called gloria a *** starved dwarf why are u mad about that it? unless...i rest my case

hey i was talking about the sona until u started reacting acting all superior. so a columnist are u..write much lately? aside from the forums calling people lemmings that is.

bring it.

OT:
nope. i think not only u do need a hug but also the need to get laid...

i'm not mad about u calling gloria a ***-starved dwarf. i am just not agreeable to it. unless u have proven it's true by ur own personal nocturnal investigation. so go and satisfy both ur thirst and not in this forum.

and by the way, she is not a dwarf. she is just short.

im not a columnist. i'm just a fan of istorya.net forums. i'm not acting all superior. u r the one acting inferior. and the way ur opinions been stated shows it all.