non practitioner of any religion.

[pijavier]

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Religion sucks! I am not religious and I hate it! but I do know where I stand and where I'm going.

I am going to borrow money from Agoroy to buy an SB800

[Soul Doctor]

para nako ok raman nga walay relihiyon ang usa ka taw. pareha nako natural born christian pero way simba2, dili mangadye, dili na gani motoo sa ginoo.

ang ako lang , live a good life, dili mang hilabot sa uban, dili manamak sa uban. dili mang libak. basta golden rule lang gud. apply na sa tanan taw.

sa ako part, if pagkataw nako wala ko bunyage, dili jud ta ko pabunyag.
free man gud kaayo if wala ka relihiyon.

usa sad sa mga christians, e look down ang mga muslims or other religion and vice versa.


ako respeto lang jud ko sa bisan unsa nga tinoohan as long as e repect sad ko nila.

peace out bro.

OK ra unta na bro.
But so will look arrogant and ungrateful to your Maker.

We always have to be thankful to feel happy.
If you will have no one to thank for your existence,
you will never find the purpose why you are here (because you will assume that there is none)
and you will feel boredom most of the time.
You have to make efforts to make yourself happy.

[orcgod]

if your physical body dies, then thats it. your gone. or do you have evidence that theres life after death. or if someone died and came back, then i will believe that theres someone or something up above.

the purpose of life is to live it as much as you can. then die. poof, thats it. (oh theres evidence?, where? oh dont give me that "faith' answer, i just want hard facts.)

God? i dont think theres one. if there is, then have you seen him? (oh the brain thing, if i could see my brain, hmmmnn lets see, im a human, and i see dead humans in the morge, disected, and i see his brain. Logically speaking, if that dead human has brain, and im an alive human, just as human as that dead one, then iam absolutely sure i have a brain, not by faith, but by fact.

who is God? God is invented by humans through religion, inorder to have power, and manipulate people, to have money. Just like those rich priests and cardinals. I thought they follow their lifestyle of their God, but why so filthy rich?

as humans, we have intellect, and through this we can decide whats wrong or right.

i have principles in life, live it to the fullest, make many friends.

if someone kills my loved one, i will also kill them. simple answer.

[berry_muffin]

great discussion guys...

its nice to know that i am not alone. my parents and my husband are roman catholics, but i chose to be agnostic. i believe that i am responsible for my self and that i am the master of my destiny. i agree with you souldoctor, we have to make efforts to make ourselves happy.

i asked my teacher once if he knows the purpose of life and he gave me a very simple answer “to exist”. for me, the purpose of life is for me to realize my full potentials, to realize my strengths and use these strengths to help others.

[Soul Doctor]

I disagree w/ you on this. Homosexuality is prevalent even among other mammals, I think it is as natural as the hair on your chiny-chin-chin Why would you say that *** is only for procreation and not for entertainment? If we're not thinking of having kids, What about for intimacy? Are our souls only limited to loving or giving intimacy to the opposite ***? Why do you think it is a mistake?

Sorry if I seem to be bombarding you with questions sir ha, I'm just curious.

On the thread topic - I don't practice the religion I was baptized with & I only attend mass on holidays for family togetherness. I'm just not the religious or believes-in-the-supernatural type of person. I think religion and spirituality are important - though not for everyone, in guiding you to your life's purpose.

*** is basically designed for procreation.
Weither we like it or not.
But we humans always find ways to abuse things we are given of.

Why do you think women gets more pleasure in *** than men?
And why do you think God made *** pleasurable?
*** is designed for procreation or reproduction.
If God did not make this thing pleasurable, our race have already been wiped out.
Humans already were extinct thousands of years ago, if God did not make *** pleasurable.

Why would you have *** and bear a child painfully, if *** were not pleasurable.
Why would you want a child that you have to feed, clothe and teach for at least 18 years, if *** does not feel good.

Intimacy is required to have a good ***, not the other way around.
Because you need to have intimacy or loving disposition as parent or couple to be able to parent a child.
You have, as parents, to show you really love each other,
in order to bring up a child in a loving and caring way.

[Soul Doctor]

Ice...
wala akong sinabing maging kambing ka kung pumatay ka ng tao!

Pagpumatay ka ng tao, papatayin karin ng taong iyon sa susunod na buhay.
Have you seen the movie "Dead Again"? The concept there was closer to the truth.
Maybe not in the same manner.
The most convenient way to balance the karmic scale is abortion.
For example Cain killed Abel.
In the next life since Abel died earlier he reincarnates ahead of Cain.
His soul will enter a woman's body.
Maybe, twenty years after, Cain died and his soul becomes the child in that woman's womb.
She then aborts her baby to complete the universal justice.
This is how killings are resolved in the universal sense of justice.

[iczyes]

Ice...
wala akong sinabing maging kambing ka kung pumatay ka ng tao!

Pagpumatay ka ng tao, papatayin karin ng taong iyon sa susunod na buhay.
Have you seen the movie "Dead Again"? The concept there was closer to the truth.
Maybe not in the same manner.
The most convenient way to balance the karmic scale is abortion.
For example Cain killed Abel.
In the next life since Abel died earlier he reincarnates ahead of Cain.
His soul will enter a woman's body.
Maybe, twenty years after, Cain died and his soul becomes the child in that woman's womb.
She then aborts her baby to complete the universal justice.
This is how killings are resolved in the universal sense of justice.

bro, example ko lang po iyong about the kambing thing to point out your
logic in viewing karma
kase ung concept mo ng reincarnation is still...an eye for an eye..
iba kase ang law of karma, law of causation and effect, and reincarnation
kahit related ang isa sa bawat isa...they are totally different from each other
explain ko lang poh ha...
law of causation...whatever that is happening right now is an effect of a previous causation
to point out that no circumstance is mere accident
we cannot exactly say what may have caused it
it may be a single causation or a series, a summation, etc
we cannot even say that it was bad or good that caused it
example..the weather...
sabi nga sa national geographics that even a simple flutter of a butterfly in the desert
can cause a huge hurricaine somewhere in the world
we cannot say na good or bad ang ginawa ng butterfly
we cannot say na good or bad ang hurricaine
sa standards ng tao...bad ang hurricaine...pero hurrucaines are but part of the balance of life
its neither good nor bad...our perception makes it good or bad

law of karma is synonymous to the law of causation to the human soul
it mostly points out to say that we are responisble for our own actions
but we can never ever say that one is experiencing suffering in this lifetime because
he/she has made someone suffered from the past lifetime
or nanalo ka ng sweepstakes dahil mabuti kang tao
that concept ay based from another idealogy...ung an eye for an eye
movies put in poetic justice to kase nga naman hanggang dun lang na level naiintindihan ng tao
ang ganitong konsepto...
Hindi naten puwede ifuse ang Christian morality or any type of moral code to this law
kase ang justice hindi paghihiganti my friend
the justice of the universe has a balance system of its own
if we put in our own concept of justice to the law of karma
dun nagkakaroon ng confusion...
sa book na Karma Manual ni Dr. Mumford,
nakuwento niya na puwedeng kapag nanalo ka ng lotto for example
hindi yun dahil mabait ka dati...puwedeng ang pagkapanalo mo ay puwedeng dahil
pinili ng higher self mo ma-experience in this lifetime(that's the causation)
puwede ring dahil generous ka, you partake in the universal exchange
dami reasons...you cannot pinpoint what was the causation
ano ang effect?
madami ring possibilities...puwedeng pinatay ka dahil naiingit sa iyo
ninakawan ka ng kapatid mo
na-addict ka sa gambling
or puwedeng nagamit mo sa magandang paraan
it may have made you a better person
so in essence, law of karma is not a law to judge whether mabuti ka o masama
it's about being responsible of your actions to lessen the burden of the effects
that you may deem inconvenient or you categorize as "not good" for you.

Law of reincarnation ay iba din...
Your story about Cain and Abel is a possibility
but not becuase of universe justice
Nobody else chooses your reincarnated life but yourself...your highest purest self
When your born poor, it doesnt necesarily mean you have abused money in the past lifetime
it's a possibility but not the ONLY possibility
In reincarnation, you choose the situation where you can get the highest evolution of your soul
Again, we cannot mix it with our own human concept of 'soul evolution'
each is unique..kaya nga most people of this path sit down and quiet their mind
when you have realized...i dont even think you can share it
kase kasama dun sa realization ung uniqueness ng soul mo that may or not be shared by everyone
those in whom who share the same soul realization are what we term as KINDRED spirits

Etow pinost ko to point out that we often confuse the spiritual laws with our own moral codes
And it is quite a pitfall when we fall into this trap...
Kase ang mangayayri...walang pinagkaiba sa structured form of religion
its like just changing clothes but still the same person inside
sencia na kung mahaba tapos off topic pa...
of course, your still entitled to your own beliefs
im just sharing my learnings in the hope that some may get something enlightening from it
OR NOT...another possibility
In any way, always a pleasure to share...
Namaste!

[r3roble]

OT: wow ice, parang telenovela... he he..

[iczyes]

OT: wow ice, parang telenovela... he he..

LOL, dirediretso man gud...di nako ma-notice nga taas na siya until after i press the submit button...
(sheepish embarrased grin)

[The_Child]

Let us not assume that Religion in its true form is an institution. Religion is afterall a relationship to that Trascendent (God or what have you). Such is why, people tend to miscontrue Spirituality as something more positive than religion.

The law of Causation begs the question, if we are afterall predetermined. The choices we make, are not ours but of some "higher self" which consequently affects our current situation. if we are predetermined, then there is no need to be moral.