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  1. #711

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    ingon imong kapatid nga si rcruman dili mana ninyo religion ang "ang dating daan". Television program ra daw na kauban sa bubble gang.. ang inyong religion is "church of god international" karon asa na ma basa?

    wahahaha. maayo pay niangkon ka itachi nga religion kay sa tv program ra man diay nah. wahahahahah. kalooy nimo dong . hjehehehe

  2. #712
    Quote Originally Posted by oTnur View Post
    The early church, when they accepted the Primacy of Peter, accepted the importance of the cHURCH IN roME. sT. pAUL WROTE IN rOME. 1: Fisrt of all, I give thanks to my God to Jesus Christ for all of you because your faith is heralded throughout the world. " The original Greek word used here fo 'Proclaimed throughout is "Kata" with the adjective "Holos" which means "Whole". Thus, the world ' Catholic' comes from thius original Greek text of the Bible. which means the Universal Church.

    The word Catholic is more ancient than the word 'Bible'. In order to explain the nature, mission and vision of the church in 110AD, an early bishop of the church, Ignatius of Antioch, used the word 'Katholikos' mean (Greek word means Universal) where the bishop is present, where the congregation gathers, CHRIST IS THERE.
    Sir Otnur salamat sa pag pasabot!

  3. #713
    Quote Originally Posted by bcasabee View Post
    Omniscient - All knowing
    Omnipotent - All powerful
    Omnipresent - Present everywhere.

    This is just an opinion. If one is saved, one can inherit God's holiness and glory, it can also mean one can inherit the omnises of God. I believe, Mother may can be omnipresent since she has already inherited Gods glory. Its like a spring and a river, God is the spring or the source of water and the saints are the river where Gods holiness and glory flows. That is how I see it. I believe in the end, all things will be revealed (meaning we will be all knowing also but not intrinsically though, with the aid of God gihapon).
    correct me if I'm wrong bro ha but I think holiness and glory does not include his nature... nature man gud na niya nang 3 bro... that's based from what I learned...

  4. #714
    I didn't refer to Mary alone. But to all saints in heaven will inherit Gods holiness and glory (that is just my opinion though). It is ridiculous to say that Jesus Christ inherited all the power from God when he is God himself. He is the Alpha and the Omega. Holy Trinity is beyond logic as what the other ancient prominent Catholic theologians had said.

    [QUOTE=itachi;2884369]
    Quote Originally Posted by bcasabee View Post
    Omniscient - All knowing
    Omnipotent - All powerful
    Omnipresent - Present everywhere.

    This is just an opinion. If one is saved, one can inherit God's holiness and glory, it can also mean one can inherit the omnises of God. I believe, Mother may can be omnipresent since she has already inherited Gods glory. Its like a spring and a river, God is the spring or the source of water and the saints are the river where Gods holiness and glory flows. That is how I see it.



    si Mary diay ang naka inherit sa God's Glory nga si Jesus Christ man...pataka man lang tawn ka parts

    Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

    1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

    1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

    1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    mao lagi nay nakaapan basta dili ta mubase ug bible kay magpataka nalang ug yawit...

  5. #715
    Quote Originally Posted by botslob View Post
    sakto ka! kana si eli soriano apil na sa mga false prophets karong panahona kay sige lang kitag away. ang mga propeta sa una wa mangitag away nagmensahe ra gyud. tsk tsk...
    huhwala kakitag away

    unsay rason nganong gipatay si Jesus Christ

    unsay rason nganong gipatay si Esteban

    wala diay awayso kamo diay wala diay mo makig away sa dautan...amigo diay ninyo ang dautan...hahahahaha!!!

    Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

  6. #716
    Quote Originally Posted by oTnur View Post
    The early church, when they accepted the Primacy of Peter, accepted the importance of the cHURCH IN roME. sT. pAUL WROTE IN rOME. 1: Fisrt of all, I give thanks to my God to Jesus Christ for all of you because your faith is heralded throughout the world. " The original Greek word used here fo 'Proclaimed throughout is "Kata" with the adjective "Holos" which means "Whole". Thus, the world ' Catholic' comes from thius original Greek text of the Bible. which means the Universal Church.

    The word Catholic is more ancient than the word 'Bible'. In order to explain the nature, mission and vision of the church in 110AD, an early bishop of the church, Ignatius of Antioch, used the word 'Katholikos' mean (Greek word means Universal) where the bishop is present, where the congregation gathers, CHRIST IS THERE.
    unsay name atong Church nga gisuwatan ni St. Paul sa Rome? Roman Catholic Church

    ayaw lagi mog angkon dayon...tsk tsk tsk tsk!

    si St. Paul nagsuwat sa mga Christians sa bisan asa nga lugar...ang pangutana, Roman Catholic Church ang pangalan ato nga church ga gipangsuwatan ni St. Paul

    Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the CHURCH OF GOD, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    1Co 1:2 Unto the CHURCH OF GOD which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

    2Co 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the CHRUCH OF GOD which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

    1Co 11:22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the CHURCH OF GOD, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

    1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

    Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

    1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    1Ti 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    ang gisuwatan ni St. Paul, MEMBERS INTAWN TO SA CHURCH OF GOD...

    wala lagi ko kabasa nga nag mention si St. Paul ug Roman Catholic Church

  7. #717
    Quote Originally Posted by oTnur View Post
    The early church, when they accepted the Primacy of Peter, accepted the importance of the cHURCH IN roME. sT. pAUL WROTE IN rOME. 1: Fisrt of all, I give thanks to my God to Jesus Christ for all of you because your faith is heralded throughout the world. " The original Greek word used here fo 'Proclaimed throughout is "Kata" with the adjective "Holos" which means "Whole". Thus, the world ' Catholic' comes from thius original Greek text of the Bible. which means the Universal Church.

    The word Catholic is more ancient than the word 'Bible'. In order to explain the nature, mission and vision of the church in 110AD, an early bishop of the church, Ignatius of Antioch, used the word 'Katholikos' mean (Greek word means Universal) where the bishop is present, where the congregation gathers, CHRIST IS THERE.
    you are right sir, the word did exist but it was not used to describe the church that Jesus has proclaimed on Peter... as a matter of fact the word or words used was one body in Christ not universal... as you have stated, the whole Christian community was described as a WHOLE, which can also mean ONE or oneness, while universal can mean everything or allness... because the word universal "'Katholikos" as you have stated explain the nature, mission and vision of the church in 110AD, they began to use it... so before 110AD, it never came to be the name of the early believers, they were simply known as Christians...

    Matthew 16:18
    And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

    1 Corinthians 12:12 (New International Version)

    12The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ.

  8. #718
    Master itachi unsa gani imu tuyo dri? mu tabang ko nimu... il let them understand na sayup sila..
    tell me what is it our goal here?

  9. #719
    I am a sinner also, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as the center of my life....

    Pero question ko lang, is it important kung kinsa nag una na church? Does this church follow the commandments of God? Are they obeying God's law? Are they following what is written in the Bible?


    PEACE!

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  11. #720
    Quote Originally Posted by pal View Post
    Ang2 wa man jud perpekto.

    Rom 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God

    But what makes those saints worthy of your respect?
    hmmmm mao bah?... mura ragud na ikaw krn?..
    what makes YOU worthy of my respect?...

    angay pa ba na ipangutana bro?.. even sa imo parents, angay paba na ipangutana sa ilaha?..
    pagsure oi..
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-26-2008 at 01:12 PM.

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