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  1. #611

    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    thank you so much bro...
    and seeing how my family brought me up and how we stay together because of our faith, already made me decide to stay..

    i'll do the same for you bro, many are called but few are chosen...
    i guess i'm one of the many who are called but not one of the few who are chosen...
    we'll never know that bro, until judgement comes... wala ta kahibalo, in the future, God will touch you and you will start the fire of the Holy Spirit sa inyo family...

    we can never understand how God works His ways but I know for sure nga everything happens for a reason...

    one of them, you and i and everyone else being very active with this topic...

  2. #612
    Quote Originally Posted by arubinkun View Post
    that's the problem bro, you were made to think that because Mary bore Jesus into this world, that she is more powerful and can convince Jesus to change His mind about things... I'll tell you bro, you are wrong! call it pagbuot sa imo gituohan or whatever, but I will make my stand and tell you that you are wrong...

    Mary was just a vessel for Jesus to come to earth as a man... that's why Jesus wasn't concieved sexually but God himself placed the seed and had mary carry Jesus.

    Remember when Jesus to turned the water into wine? He called mary "woman" to let mary know that as Jesus Christ, as the son of God, you are not my mother but a mere vessel and you have no right to command me...
    hehehe.. tawn nimo bro. did Jesus said woman you have no right to command me? really? really? ug ngano man ni patuo man si Jesus lagi?

  3. #613
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    hehehe.. tawn nimo bro. did Jesus said woman you have no right to command me? really? really? ug ngano man ni patuo man si Jesus lagi?
    John 2:4
    4"Dear woman, why do you involve me?" Jesus replied, "My time has not yet come."

    John 19:26
    When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son," (referring to the disciple beside here who was Jesus' half brother James but not to himself)

    wala ni patuo si Jesus bro but because He saw the need, He helped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by arubinkun View Post
    Remember when Jesus to turned the water into wine? He called mary "woman" to let mary know that as Jesus Christ, as the son of God, you are not my mother but a mere vessel and you have no right to command me...
    pardon me bro, but we have a different understanding on this verse...
    as i have known (you may correct me if i'm wrong) Jesus mostly talk using the third person.
    (first person is I, second person is YOU).

  5. #615
    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    pardon me bro, but we have a different understanding on this verse...
    I know......

    But on this, He's talking as the I... "why do you invlove me (firstperson)"
    Last edited by arubinkun; 06-26-2008 at 08:54 AM.

  6. #616
    Quote Originally Posted by arubinkun View Post
    John 2:4
    4"Dear woman, why do you involve me?" Jesus replied, "My time has not yet come."

    John 19:26
    When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son," (referring to the disciple beside here who was Jesus' half brother James but not to himself)

    wala ni patuo si Jesus bro but because He saw the need, He helped...

    "My time has not yet come." does that mean, you have no right to command me?

    sa ato pa bro wala diay baroganan ang Ginoo kung mao na? mo ingon man kha gani siya nga no right to command me, NO jud na! nya ni yes man lagi diay gihapon kay he helped?

  7. #617
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    "My time has not yet come." does that mean, you have no right to command me?

    sa ato pa bro wala diay baroganan ang Ginoo kung mao na? mo ingon man kha gani siya nga no right to command me, NO jud na! nya ni yes man lagi diay gihapon kay he helped?
    Naa bro... and iya punto didto, kay "ayaw siya sugoa or unhi" ni-ingon siya nga my time has not come, ang iya pasabot nga dili pa ni mao ang oras nga magstart siya sa iya ministry...

    remember, kabalo baya si Mary nga Diyos baya si Hesus ug walay imposible sa iya... mao to nga pagkahibaw ni Mary nga wala na wine, iya gitugunan si Jesus nga wala na wine... Mao to nga gi-rebuke ni Jesus si Mary... wala man siya nipatuo bro, nakita lang jud niya nga nagkuwang jud bitaw and Wine and nagproblema ang family sa giwed so nitabang siya... pero, iya gimake clear ni mary nga ayaw to buhuta...

  8. #618
    To all catholics:

    is mary omniscient?

    if not, how can mary hear millions of people all over the world praying to her at the same time?

  9. #619
    katong sa mga dili catholics iquote nalang nako ni.

    Quote Originally Posted by aztina888 View Post
    i really find no use in giving him (newton) the infos/evidence. it wont change the fact that he will never listen to us. he will never understand us. he will never open his eye/heart/mind. at least kita we understand his motive. we know he's here to share things, and try to convince us to leave RC church.
    And I think if you review this thread all your questions have been answered na. And kamo moy wala pa kaanswer sa mga questions or nakaconvince namu because your real motive is to convince us to leave RC church and that will never happen!

  10. #620
    Who said that you should leave RC? I believe wala, kapwa nyo ang nagsulti lang ana, it shows... Did the guy (newton) convince you to leave RC? I believe he is just sharing his thoughts about what he has in his mind and what he learned from the Bible. Pansin ko lang sa thread natu those people who are not RC have lots of evidence, with verses in the Bible to prove about their points... I believe this is not an argument or a debate corner BUT a forum to share one's wisdom about God.

    PEACE!

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