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  1. #521

    Absolutely Yes!

    God and God Alone!

  2. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    bro rcruman, have you asked these questions to members of your family who are Catholics especially your parents?
    may we know their answers if it is different from ours?

    i also believe that when it comes to our Christian faith, the Bible is complete...
    i understand (i might be wrong) that your questions have already been adressed by the previous posts (of bro necro, aztina, dartzed, me and others) so there is nothing i can anwer you with it anymore...
    I did not asked just my relatives but also our principal (madre), priest, CFD in our school and all of you have the same answer, para sa GINOO ang inyo gibuhat bisan pa ang inyo giludhan ang rebulto, pareha gud sa statement ni dartzed og neocroticfreak.

    good for you that when it comes to our CHristian faith, the bible is complete but sad to say to your fellow Catholics like (dartzed,neocroticfreak and etc) believed that the bible is not complete.
    so kung kuhaon nato ang imo statement nga "when it comes to our CHRISTIAN faith, the Bible is complete" will it means that the faith of neocroticfreak, dartzed and others is not CHristian Faith because they don't believe that the bible is COMPLETE?




    Peace!

  3. #523
    imagine, mo kiss pa gani mo sa kamot sa priest or pope? what is that mean? why man pud inyo pa e agi ug kompisal sa pare inyo mga sala? they are authorize ba to forgive sin?

    ask agn:
    = is really your priest or pope can forgive sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    I did not asked just my relatives but also our principal (madre), priest, CFD in our school and all of you have the same answer, para sa GINOO ang inyo gibuhat bisan pa ang inyo giludhan ang rebulto, pareha gud sa statement ni dartzed og neocroticfreak.
    pareha ra jud diay, although you won't accept this answer, (because according to you it's different from what we do), we really don't worship rebolto but the one represented by it.. and the one represented by rebolto is not just human or anything, they are saints (St. Peter, St. Paul and other saints), Jesus and Mother Mary...

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    good for you that when it comes to our CHristian faith, the bible is complete but sad to say to your fellow Catholics like (dartzed,neocroticfreak and etc) believed that the bible is not complete.
    so kung kuhaon nato ang imo statement nga "when it comes to our CHRISTIAN faith, the Bible is complete" will it means that the faith of neocroticfreak, dartzed and others is not CHristian Faith because they don't believe that the bible is COMPLETE?
    thank you..
    when it comes to your question, i don't think so... since they are a proud catholic, i believe they (neocroticfreak, dartzed and others) are like me/us, a Christian. and i'll reserve the explanations to them because i also acknowledged that they know more than what i know the way i acknowledge that you know more than what i know...
    Last edited by r3roble; 06-25-2008 at 01:52 PM.

  5. #525
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    then basaha nig balik:

    8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
    9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

    Revelation 22:8-9

    kasabot man siguro ka kung unsa og kinsay angay ludhan? ang GINOO ra gyud.
    Nya mulusot pa gyud ka nga dili ang cherubim/santos ang inyo giludhan kungdi ang GINOO or ngadto sa GINOO.
    Beh kung ikaw naay uyab/bana nya wala siya dinhi sa pilipinas nya gusto ka muhalok or mugakos kay gimingaw nga puede ba diay imo hagkan/gakson ang imo silingan or pariente sa imo uyab/bana nya imo lang ingnon nga para imo bitaw ni love, ikaw bitaw ang naa sa akong hunahuha sa dihang gigakos or gihalukan siya, musugot imo uyab/bana ani "KUNG" pananglitan?

    ang pagsimba sa GINOO kay sa pagluhod so sa dihang niluhod mo sa santos/rebulto kay pagsimba kana, ana ra kasimple dili kay muingon pa gyud nga para sa GINOO, gibawal gani niya.

    ang pagsugo sa GINOO nga paghimo og cherubim kay wlay sumpay nga ludhi og ampoi kay ang angay ampoan og ludhan ang GINOO ra gyud.


    Peace!
    ang nakapait gud nimo bro ky ang imo atakihon ky ang imo ra nakita wala ka kabaw kung unsa ang TUMONG sa nag.ampo kasobot ka?.. parehas rana nga nag.ampo ka galuhod atubangan sa kahoy,bato ug unsa pana naa sa imo atubangan, pasabot ba ana ang kahoy or ang bato or unsa pana mao ang ginuo?.. pagsure oi

  6. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    imagine, mo kiss pa gani mo sa kamot sa priest or pope? what is that mean? why man pud inyo pa e agi ug kompisal sa pare inyo mga sala? they are authorize ba to forgive sin?

    ask agn:
    = is really your priest or pope can forgive sin?
    John 20:23
    23If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.

    Jesus selected certain men who became His disciples, and He gave them a share in His mission. In order that they may carry out their Master's work, Jesus equipped them with the power and authority to proclaim the good news of salvation and to perform many great works like those He Himself performed.

    He then went up the mountain and summoned the men he himself had decided on, who came and joined him. He named twelve as his companions whom he would send to preach the good news; they were likewise to have authority to expel demons. Mark 3:13-15

    Jesus now called the Twelve together and gave them power and authority to overcome all demons and to cure diseases. Luke 9:1

    With that they went off, preaching the need of repentance. They expelled many demons, anointed the sick with oil, and worked many cures. Mark 6:12

  7. #527
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    I did not asked just my relatives but also our principal (madre), priest, CFD in our school and all of you have the same answer, para sa GINOO ang inyo gibuhat bisan pa ang inyo giludhan ang rebulto, pareha gud sa statement ni dartzed og neocroticfreak.

    good for you that when it comes to our CHristian faith, the bible is complete but sad to say to your fellow Catholics like (dartzed,neocroticfreak and etc) believed that the bible is not complete.
    so kung kuhaon nato ang imo statement nga "when it comes to our CHRISTIAN faith, the Bible is complete" will it means that the faith of neocroticfreak, dartzed and others is not CHristian Faith because they don't believe that the bible is COMPLETE?

    Peace!
    nganu asa sa bible verse nagtel na completo ug absolute ang copy sa bible?.. kbaw ka nga ang bible is just a compilation?... nya kabaw sad ka unsa na ang word na compilation?...
    ask btaw tika sa possible questions just to prove my point y d man ka mutubag verse by verse?.. nya muingon ka completo, cge ingon completo nya pangutan.on d mutubag... ikaw daw unsa man imo pagtuo ana, tarong na?...
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-25-2008 at 02:18 PM.

  8. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    ang nakapait gud nimo bro ky ang imo atakihon ky ang imo ra nakita wala ka kabaw kung unsa ang TUMONG sa nag.ampo kasobot ka?.. parehas rana nga nag.ampo ka galuhod atubangan sa kahoy,bato ug unsa pana naa sa imo atubangan, pasabot ba ana ang kahoy or ang bato or unsa pana mao ang ginuo?.. pagsure oi
    nganong mag buot mn jud nga ang Ginoo nman nag ingon nga "Thou shall not"?

    hatag rjud mo ug verse sa Bible b nga nag ingon ang Ginoo vow mo sa mga images.

    aside from images, dghan pa kaau ug mga beliefs ang catholics nga wala gi encourage sa Bible pra buhaton.

    example lng sko question above, give me verses daw from the Bible why you worship God on sunday ang why it takes only hrs and then back to usual work dyon. base your answer from the Bible specially sa inyo Bible ky inyo man kaha Bible ang mas accurate.

  9. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    John 20:23
    23If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.

    Jesus selected certain men who became His disciples, and He gave them a share in His mission. In order that they may carry out their Master's work, Jesus equipped them with the power and authority to proclaim the good news of salvation and to perform many great works like those He Himself performed.

    He then went up the mountain and summoned the men he himself had decided on, who came and joined him. He named twelve as his companions whom he would send to preach the good news; they were likewise to have authority to expel demons. Mark 3:13-15

    Jesus now called the Twelve together and gave them power and authority to overcome all demons and to cure diseases. Luke 9:1

    With that they went off, preaching the need of repentance. They expelled many demons, anointed the sick with oil, and worked many cures. Mark 6:12
    wer man ang text dha bro nga mo forgive ug sins ang inyo mga priest or pope?

  10. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    nganong mag buot mn jud nga ang Ginoo nman nag ingon nga "Thou shall not"?

    hatag rjud mo ug verse sa Bible b nga nag ingon ang Ginoo vow mo sa mga images.

    aside from images, dghan pa kaau ug mga beliefs ang catholics nga wala gi encourage sa Bible pra buhaton.

    example lng sko question above, give me verses daw from the Bible why you worship God on sunday ang why it takes only hrs and then back to usual work dyon. base your answer from the Bible specially sa inyo Bible ky inyo man kaha Bible ang mas accurate.
    hehe ok cge, kinsa man nagtell nimo nga muvow mi ug images?.. well although naa jud uban sa amo just bec ang uban d jud malikyan ug wala natudluan.. but in the case of kanang mgvow lang sa; can you provide a document sa RC na nagtell ug nagsugo sa amo namuvow sa images?.. i would really appreciate if naa kay evidence na ikapakita nako or namo to prove that we RCs gitudlo sa amo mga kaparian ang pag.ampo sa imahe ug pagvow sa imahe...


    hala cge...

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