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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    There is no Trinity.
    There is God and us.
    In fact, many of us. People from many planets.

    No Son.
    God does not need a Son.
    Humans needed offspring because they die.
    Humans have sons and daughter to replace them when they die.
    God could not die.
    So He does not need a Son to replace him.

    No Holy Spirit
    God is already a Holy Spirit or energy form.
    So He does not need another Holy Spirit.
    unbiblical notion of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    unbiblical notion of God.
    yes, because I donot limit my understanding to what is only written in the bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    yes, because I donot limit my understanding to what is only written in the bible.
    right, you limit your understanding on God's infinite perspective and exceeded on your human understanding.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    God, is a triune God.

    The Gospel of Matthew names the persons of the triune Godhead: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19) Jesus tells us in the Gospel of John that, “I and my Father are one.” (John 10:30) Each person of the Godhead has a unique name, character and role. God is the mind of God, Jesus is the embodiment of God and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. We are made in His image with body, mind and spirit. Each part of our nature is distinct from the other but works together; each part of the Godhead is distinct but works together.
    Then where in the bible that the HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT is GOD?
    Yes FATHER and CHRIST are ONE because they are united and as what Jesus CHRIST SAID:

    11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
    John 17:11

    Bro neocroticfreak you're preaching here a dangerous doctrine that is not biblical.
    Where in the bible that "God is the mind of God, Jesus is the embodiment of God and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. "?
    do you mean that they're one GOD is mind, Jesus is embodiment and Holy Spirit is the Spirit of GOD? asa intawon ni sa BIBLE BRO? or sa CATECHISM ra ni makita?

    So unsay ikasulti nimo ani nga verse:

    16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
    17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
    Matthew 3:16-17

    so kung ato basehan imo statement nga wala sa bible "God is the mind of God, Jesus is the embodiment of God and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. " mugawas nga sa dihang nabautismuhan si JESUS muhaom ba imo statement? kay sa dihang gibautismuhan si JESUS (30 anyos siya dili bata/infant) kay ang Amahan naa sa Langit og ang HOLY Ghost kay ninaog, so buot ba pasabot sa imo statement kay walay ESPIRITU ang AMAHAN atong panahona kay ninaog man ang Espritu?

    NYA kini pa ang usa ka unbiblical:
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    We are made in His image with body, mind and spirit.
    asa ni sa bible nga "in HIS image with body, mind and spirit"? or sa Catechism ra ni?

    kay sa bible mao ni ang nakabutang:
    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    Genesis 1:26

    kabantay ka or kasabot man siguro ka sa word nga "OUR" meaning plural diba? so ngano ingon man ka nga "in HIS image with body, mind and spirit"?


    No wonder nga muingon mo nga the bible is not complete kay ang inyo CATECHISM maoy complete sa inyo self doctrine og dili makita sa bible.

    ayaw dayon kasuko bro, discussion ra ni atoa, tubag lang ta objectively dili emotional.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pal View Post
    Some believe in Holy trinity. Some don't.
    How will this affect in our relationship with God if we believe or not?
    It has a big effect to our relationship with GOD because you will believe words or things which is not in the bible or not taught by the bible.
    as what bible Said:

    23 Whatsoever is commanded by the God of heaven, let it be diligently done for the house of the God of heaven: for why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and his sons?
    Ezra 7:23

    6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
    1 Corinthians 4:6

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    Galatians 1:8-9

    32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
    Deuteronomy 12:32

    Proverbs 30:6
    6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


    these verses are warning to us but people ignore these verses or warning of GOD and keep on violating.

    In the bible there's no TRINITY, they are not equal in power.

    GOD the FATHER is greater than Christ and Christ is greater than Holy Spirit.
    there are many things that Christ don't have power that only God the Father knows.

    Peace!

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    God does not need our relationship with Him.
    If He wanted to have relationship with us,
    He would have made our senses powerful enough to see Him or hear Him or feel Him.
    This is an example of Faithless thoughts. And maybe you think that way becoz you are reflecting if you were a God.

    "God's way are not our way"

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    right, you limit your understanding on God's infinite perspective and exceeded on your human understanding.
    I do not limit my understanding with anything. Period.
    I open my mind to the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oTnur View Post
    This is an example of Faithless thoughts. And maybe you think that way becoz you are reflecting if you were a God.

    "God's way are not our way"

    Peace!
    No, but it is not normal for someone(like God) to have relationship with His creation(man).
    Pareha ra ni Bill Gates nga makig-relationship sa iyang computer(or computer programs).
    Di ba awkward o lain paminawon?

    But if you really feel you have a relationship with your God, go ahead.
    Dili na lang ko makikisawsaw. Iyo na ang iyong God.
    I have my own God anyway, which is by far, different from your God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    I do not limit my understanding with anything. Period.
    I open my mind to the universe.
    did i say you limit your understanding with anything? in fact i stated, you exceeded on your human understanding, coz you dont have limit on it. but unfortunately you limit your understanding on God who created you and the universe that you open your mind with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    did i say you limit your understanding with anything? in fact i stated, you exceeded on your human understanding, coz you dont have limit on it. but unfortunately you limit your understanding on God who created you and the universe that you open your mind with.
    Yes you did!

    Originally Posted by necrotic freak :
    right, you limit your understanding on God's infinite perspective and exceeded on your human understanding.

    Unsa man diay na?

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