Be Proud of Being Catholic

[r3roble]

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thanks for sharing bro...
hope, this would give them an understanding, even just a little.
and expect reactions to this...

[rcruman]

then much more a big information can be more dangerous.


so ako balikon pangutana ang mga katolikospecially neocroticfreak and other catholic keep on saying that the bible is not complete).

when you use John 21:25 as reference nga naay gibuhat si Christ nga dili angay isulat kay dili masulod ning kalibutana pasabot ba nga ang catechism and oral tradition maoy makapacomplete sa bible?

Then ato sa e-check sa bible, kanang naa sa catechism like infant baptism, bayad sa bunyag, holy trinity, rosary og uban pa nga naa sa catechism og wala sa bible kay GIHIMO BA KANA NI JESUS CHRIST or iya ba kana GITUDLO?

Kay it follows nga iya na gihimo kung ato kuhaan og basi ang inyo gi-quote nga John 21:25.

ako usbon ang mga butang nga gibuhat ni Jesus nga wla na gisulat kay dili nato importante sa ato kaluwasan.
Importante pa diay kung kapila siya nibuhig patay og kinsa iya gibanhaw? or importante nga nibuhi siyag patay?

Importante pa ba diayng isulat kung kapila siya nagpaayo og sanglahon og nagpalayas og demonyo or ang importante nga isulat nga makapalayaw og makapaayo siya?

Huna-hunaa ni neocroticfreak og ubang TAO nga nituo nga dili complete ang bible og ang ORAL TRADITION and CATECHISM msoy makacomplete sa bible.


Its very clear nga unsay naa sa CATECHISM and ORAL TRADITION kay dili makita sa bible and infact against sa BIBLE. Asa gud intawon sa bible ang ORIGINAL SIN, PURGATORY, LIMBO , special and regular mass, special and regular wedding/baptism/funeral?

Asa gud sa bible nga himo ta og rebulto sa tao og ato ludhan.

ang luhod og pagsimba kay sa GINOO ra :

8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Revelation 22:8-9

so sa GINOO ra gyud kita musimba og muluhod dili sa bisan kinsa or unsa paman.

so niluhod ba mo or nisimba sa REBULTO?
action speaks louder than words, dili tuod mo muangkon nga niworship mo o REBULTO/SANTOS pero ang inyo gibuhat sa REBULTO/SANTOS kay mao untay angay buhaton aron ta mosimba sa GINOO sama sa giingon sa ANgel nga nakita ni JUAN.

Discussion ra ni atoa, prove me wrong and the same thing i will do to you.
LEt us have a common source, the BIBLE in any version bisan pa ang bible ninyo nga daghan og content.
Peace!

[dartzed]

any Biblical references that God gave only priest the authority to spread His words?

as stated above, anybody as long he/she bears the the word found in the Holly Scripture and has the testimony of Jesus Christ.

its up to you bro and sis.

if God said, Thou shalt not.. then il strive to follow His commandments rather than never and making my own ways which i feel better.

i follow God rather than men.

its enough that God said "Thou shalt not" then lets follow not unless f we want to be more like God and make our own ways.

God Bless bro and sis!
and good night to all.

hmmmmm i think you have a problem anyways speaking of biblical refferences about spreading Gods word, i assume satan can spread His words ky bsan kinsa man kaha pwede?... if not who?.. are we capable enough?.. if YES then try to decode the LATIN bible coz what you are reading now is mans work of interpretation.. and remeber you dont believe in anybody, right?..

[rcruman]

Another accusation against Catholics is that they are 'idol worshippers' in the Church.

If we taken this word literally, God is prohibiting all arts and architecture in this world. All arts belong to images or likeness in the universe. In fact God forbade the worship of fake gods that existed at the pagan culture! They believed that the statues themselves are their gods, and made sacrifices for them. But GOd never prohibited the use of statues in the places of worship, which helped people to feel His Presence, as the Bible says.

bro its not like that.
architecture and arts are not prohibited.
Prohibited siya kung maghimo ka nya imo ludhan or ampoan/simbahon.
Complete ang ingon sa biblia, thou shall not make and thou shall not vow.

sa dihang nisugo ang GINOO nga paghimo og cherubim kay wala siyay gisumpay nga vow to them or worship them.

It must be parallel bro, niingon siya nga ayaw himo og ludhi.
so kung gipahimo ka nga nay wla paludhi kay lahi na kaysa HIMO ka nya imo ludhan.


Peace!

[dartzed]

bro its not like that.
architecture and arts are not prohibited.
Prohibited siya kung maghimo ka nya imo ludhan or ampoan/simbahon.
Complete ang ingon sa biblia, thou shall not make and thou shall not vow.

sa dihang nisugo ang GINOO nga paghimo og cherubim kay wala siyay gisumpay nga vow to them or worship them.

It must be parallel bro, niingon siya nga ayaw himo og ludhi.
so kung gipahimo ka nga nay wla paludhi kay lahi na kaysa HIMO ka nya imo ludhan.


Peace!

kani nindot ni bro rcruman dha sa cherubim na gipahimo sa ginuo: bro naa ko question kung ang cherubim gibutang sa altar nya nagampo ang RC atubangan nagluhod pasabot bah ang iya giampo.an ang cherubim?...

[r3roble]

bro rcruman, have you asked these questions to members of your family who are Catholics especially your parents?
may we know their answers if it is different from ours?

i also believe that when it comes to our Christian faith, the Bible is complete...
i understand (i might be wrong) that your questions have already been adressed by the previous posts (of bro necro, aztina, dartzed, me and others) so there is nothing i can anwer you with it anymore...

[oTnur]

is ds the answer of my question above?

if so, meaning catholic are not referring their faith from Bible? so in short they dont believe that the Bible is not the words of God?

so kinsa man ilang gi follow? whos words man ilang gi follow?

As Saint James says: "Faith without work is dead"(James 2:26)
Thus, History proved, beyond any doubt, that the bible alone theory is not from God.

In fact the Bible bacame an instrument in the hands of Satan to create chaos and anarchy in Christendom when it was taken away from its real basis--- the Church founded by Jesus upon Peter. So Jesus warned, (Jn15:16) " Anyone who does not remain in me will bw thrown out like a branch and wither".

[r3roble]

As Saint James says: "Faith without work is dead"(James 2:26)
Thus, History proved, beyond any doubt, that the bible alone theory is not from God.

well, you have a point there bro, but can we see sources?

In fact the Bible bacame an instrument in the hands of Satan to create chaos and anarchy in Christendom when it was taken away from its real basis--- the Church founded by Jesus upon Peter. So Jesus warned, (Jn15:16) " Anyone who does not remain in me will bw thrown out like a branch and wither".

that is why we were warned in the whole chapter of Matthew 24:

24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

[newtonscousin]

all i can say, lisud jud pa sabton ang mga tawo even if nag ingon na ang Ginoo nga "Thou shall not".

lisud ba mga catholic pag sunod sa iyang sugo nga "Thou shall not" then mag buhat jud ta ug rason bisan wala na gi ingon ni God "Thou shall make"?

cge daw, give me a certain verse of Commandments nga iya gi reverse.

and ang ako pud nga question above, murag nakalimtan man to ninyo about sa inyo point why Sunday and takes hours lng ang inyo worship then back to usual work again after hrs of worhip.
pls. lng provide Bible references para naa ta basis ky lisud man f mag buhat ta ug ato lng kay mura na ta ug labaw ni God.

[rcruman]

kani nindot ni bro rcruman dha sa cherubim na gipahimo sa ginuo: bro naa ko question kung ang cherubim gibutang sa altar nya nagampo ang RC atubangan nagluhod pasabot bah ang iya giampo.an ang cherubim?...

then basaha nig balik:

8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Revelation 22:8-9

kasabot man siguro ka kung unsa og kinsay angay ludhan? ang GINOO ra gyud.
Nya mulusot pa gyud ka nga dili ang cherubim/santos ang inyo giludhan kungdi ang GINOO or ngadto sa GINOO.
Beh kung ikaw naay uyab/bana nya wala siya dinhi sa pilipinas nya gusto ka muhalok or mugakos kay gimingaw nga puede ba diay imo hagkan/gakson ang imo silingan or pariente sa imo uyab/bana nya imo lang ingnon nga para imo bitaw ni love, ikaw bitaw ang naa sa akong hunahuha sa dihang gigakos or gihalukan siya, musugot imo uyab/bana ani "KUNG" pananglitan?

ang pagsimba sa GINOO kay sa pagluhod so sa dihang niluhod mo sa santos/rebulto kay pagsimba kana, ana ra kasimple dili kay muingon pa gyud nga para sa GINOO, gibawal gani niya.

ang pagsugo sa GINOO nga paghimo og cherubim kay wlay sumpay nga ludhi og ampoi kay ang angay ampoan og ludhan ang GINOO ra gyud.


Peace!