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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    ang catechism.
    doubt ka then read their catechism, the older versions or publications aron maklaro.
    even to their relics it must be worshipped.
    so kung naay false teeth ang santos aw apil na sa relics nga angay e-worshipped.
    read the catechism before complaining.

    Peace!
    sorry bro, but you don't really understand us... kapila naman nagingon dri ang mga Katoliko nga dli na e-worship... nagtuyok-tuyok nalang jud ta ani... kapoy na segi explain...
    bisan ang catechism, wala jud mag-ingon iworship ang relics.

    please bro, stop this... it's nonsense already....
    let's make this thread productive and stick to the topic of being proud to be Catholic...

    (sorry for this remark kay kapoy na)

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    sorry bro, but you don't really understand us... kapila naman nagingon dri ang mga Katoliko nga dli na e-worship... nagtuyok-tuyok nalang jud ta ani... kapoy na segi explain...
    bisan ang catechism, wala jud mag-ingon iworship ang relics.

    please bro, stop this... it's nonsense already....
    let's make this thread productive and stick to the topic of being proud to be Catholic...

    (sorry for this remark kay kapoy na)
    inyo lagi gisulti bro og kapila na ninyo gidensa pero ang inyo gibuhat lahi or sukwahi sa inyo gisulti.

    ani ha aron makasabot ka:
    ang pagworship sa GINOO kay pagluhod, og pag-ampo og kining mga butanga kay inyo gibuhat ngadto sa inyo mga santos, maglakaw pa gani mo magluhod og mga prosisyon.
    og bro dili non-sense bro, try to read older version of your Catechism then your eyes will be open to the truth that your church ordered to worship relics of the saints.

    Sakristan ko sa una bro og ang pari muluhod og muhalok sa lamesa sa altar una magsugod ang misa ninyo kay naay bukog nga gilubong or relics sa inyong santos didto. kung duda ka ani tan-awa inyo pari inig misa diba muluhod og muhalok na siya sa lamesa sa altar una magsugod.
    ayaw pagkakapoy bro, ang kamatuoran ato gyud gahinan og panahon.

    9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
    galatians 6:9

    Peace!

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    then in my opinion mubo ra kaayo imo nakuha nga understanding atong sakristan paka.
    correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding is that it's a way of respect for the one portrayed by the image. for a million times, it's not called worshipping idols or relics...

    you have resemblance with bro spike, if i'm not mistaken choir sya dati then ikaw sakristan.
    at least at some point in your lives you are with us as Catholics and i thank God for that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    then in my opinion mubo ra kaayo imo nakuha nga understanding atong sakristan paka.
    correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding is that it's a way of respect for the one portrayed by the image. for a million times, it's not called worshipping idols or relics...

    you have resemblance with bro spike, if i'm not mistaken choir sya dati then ikaw sakristan.
    at least at some point in your lives you are with us as Catholics and i thank God for that..
    mubo? how sure are you?
    I studied in a CATHOLIC SCHOOL and once in my life i want to became a priest.
    but thanks to God I have time to read the bible and know His words through reading it and comparing it with Catholic doctrine.

    bro try to ask your CFD or your priest, bishops, cardinal and even your pope if dili tinuod nga naay relics diha sa lamesa sa altar.

    Peace!

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    ok bro, i'll ask...
    that's my understanding man gud with regard to relics, but i may be wrong...

    and regarding what you said about reading the bible, i have read it but not yet the whole bible.
    and personally i won't interpret it in my own way, i leave it to our priests, because in my opinion their years of education in the seminary gave them the knowledge to do so.

    i also have noticed that many of the catholics that fully read the bible renounced (pardon me if this is not the right word) being one. may i know why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    ok bro, i'll ask...
    that's my understanding man gud with regard to relics, but i may be wrong...

    and regarding what you said about reading the bible, i have read it but not yet the whole bible.
    and personally i won't interpret it in my own way, i leave it to our priests, because in my opinion their years of education in the seminary gave them the knowledge to do so.

    i also have noticed that many of the catholics that fully read the bible renounced (pardon me if this is not the right word) being one. may i know why?
    so you mean to say nga ang priest or bishops, cardinal, or pope ra ang mointerpret?
    kinahanglan ba gyud nga ato interpreton ang bible kung ang bible ato pasultion?
    so the years of education in the seminary gave them the knowledge? dili diay ang GINOO?
    read these verses bro aron maklaro nimo:
    Proverbs 1:23 og Mark 4:11-12
    on that verses it shows nga ang knowledge or understanding kay ihatag or ireveal sa Ginoo dili pinaagi sa years of education in the seminary. Bro sila Pedro bro kay wlay grado.
    bro when reading the bible the seal must be removed first for us to read and understand.
    Kinahanglan read then understand dili kay read ra.
    Even Rizal memorized or read the bible.
    And if you're going to read his writtings or books you can see that JOSE RIZALD wrote it against the Catholicism that is brought by the spaniards.
    Jose Rizal even questioned the purgatory.
    Jose Rizal mentioned that if we're going to have wealth it can hide our sins.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    so you mean to say nga ang priest or bishops, cardinal, or pope ra ang mointerpret?
    kinahanglan ba gyud nga ato interpreton ang bible kung ang bible ato pasultion?
    so the years of education in the seminary gave them the knowledge? dili diay ang GINOO?
    Peace!
    personally, i would say yes bro. because if i will interpret it, i may not be a catholic anymore and i may interpret it the other way. i might then make my own congregation and be a false prophet that could deceive even the very elect.

    we let our priest, bishops, cardinal, or pope to interpret it for us, so that there is universal interpretation for us catholics, and dili lain-lain ang interpretation.

    and the bible for me is not that literal all the way, there are passages that if interpreted alone could be devastating.

    years of education gave them the knowledge with God guiding them, kay dli man pud cguro makapasar pagka pari if God did not give them His graces.

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    mr rcrmuan, do you hate catholics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    personally, i would say yes bro. because if i will interpret it, i may not be a catholic anymore and i may interpret it the other way. i might then make my own congregation and be a false prophet that could deceive even the very elect.

    we let our priest, bishops, cardinal, or pope to interpret it for us, so that there is universal interpretation for us catholics, and dili lain-lain ang interpretation.

    and the bible for me is not that literal all the way, there are passages that if interpreted alone could be devastating.

    years of education gave them the knowledge with God guiding them, kay dli man pud cguro makapasar pagka pari if God did not give them His graces.
    then how about consult it with the bible if really the word of God need to be interpreted.
    the result of their interpretation is the CATECHISM.
    bro ang basehan sa pagkapari kay ni-graduate according to the standards or academic.
    but in the bible I doubt they've tackled it, bro its a fact in the bible that GOD will give understanding but how come your leaders made another book and concluded that the bible is not complete? is this the result of interpretation and years in seminary?

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    mr rcrmuan, do you hate catholics?
    no i don't.
    My wife is a catholic, but i don't hate her.
    my mother is a catholic, but i don't hate her.
    my sister is a catholic, but i don't hate her.
    my father is a catholic, but i don't hate her.
    My grandparents, cousin, uncle and auntie are catholics but I don't hate them.
    I have friends which are catholics but I don't hate them.
    My neighbors are catholics but I don't hate them.
    My boss and co-workers majority are Catholics and I don't hate them.

    I don't hate members of catholics but I hate and fight for discussion with your doctrine and spirit that control your doctrine.

    as said by the bible:
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    Ephesians 6:12

    in fact it was said in the bible to love others as I've love myself.
    so as I love myself to follow the truth which is in the bible the same love I want to share with you people to follow the truth in the bible.


    Peace!

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