Be Proud of Being Catholic

[dartzed]

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haha and where in the world you see or hear that i claimed that the bible contains everything in there? as in everything gyud? hahaha maka alsa pakaha ta sa bible ana? hehehe

and for your information, never sad ni claim ang bible ana oi. basta ang gi claim sa bible everything about salvation of mankind is written in the bible. mao na miss dartzed..

i see so pasabot pwede ra lain alternative imo gamiton aside sa imo gihatag nga verse.. you see there are millions of ways to kill a cat..

and yes solomon uses images before and you are very right that they are instructed during their time. but the big big question, are we instructed also to do the same?

hmmmm ok ok you said not everything is in the bible right?.. and we are not instructed to do the same right?.. but in the bible neither told us to engrave God's image.. and dont tell me nobody has seen God.. coz that would've been awkward of what the bible said..

why is it that the 12 apostles never uses images? wa ka nag wonder ana miss?

kaw pa gani nagingon na deli tanan naa nasulat sa bible and i think they use other ways.. ug unsaon man sad nila ang image iladad.on?.. puno2x lang na sa ila gidala, kay wonderes bya cla just to spread God's words..

[aztina888]

ok lets start huh para makita nimu imung mga reply na gi tuyok tuyok..

now the question is is cathecism in accordance with the bible 100 percent? 50 percent? 80 percent?
are you aware that satan also tells you truth and mix it with lies?
remember how adan and eve was deceived?
remember how satan tempts jesus christ in the wilderness?
makahinomdom lng ko sa RAT POISONS like DORA, RACUMIN and etc..
did you know that those are 99.5 PERCENT GOOD FOOD and 5 percent poisonous?
sa ato pa ang mga ilaga are eating actually 99.5 percent good food.
pero naunsa man ang ilaga? PATAY!

klaro kaau dha hah.

hasta imong example binogo.
did is say nga 100 percent pure water lng gihapon if ma mix na ug 5% oil? hahaha
na mix na gani nya pure lng diay gihapon? hehehe kahinumdom lng ko sa imong mga example sauna nga puro sayop hehehe

so matud pa nimu kung ma mix na dli na pure.. diba?
how can you tell the TRUTH kung imung MIXAN ug LIES would you still call that TRUTH?
so SATAN will never tell the TRUTH.. kay if mu sulti sya ug TRUTH dli siya makapang daot sa GINOO, dli sya maka recruit.
gets?

[bcasabee]

As far as I can remember. I think you were the one who claimed to have aligned himself with the teachings of Paul. Aren't you? Didn't Paul meant work as "work of the law" which won't merit anything. You opened up the topic of "work of the law" as far as I know. To recap, I think this is what I posted before.
1. A pastor or priest denying a dying man help on the side of the road to prioritize sunday/saturday church. <---work of the law. This is Paul refers to as the work that is useless, agree?
2. An athiest helping a dying man on the side of the road even if it is very inconvenient for him. <---good work.
Sa imong opinion, asa kahay mas tagaan ug pabor sa Dios? ang athiest nga humanitarian kaayo, or ang pastor/pari nga walay paki kay naa lagi daw sa Bible nga faith ray kinahanglan para maluwas ang tawo. Di ba naa mani sa Bible? "Is God the God of the Jews only? Isn't he the God of all as well?"(I forgot the exact phrase actually).

...if you are referring to the Roman Catholic Church's Catechism then not all are in the Bible. Even those considered by Scholars as unbiblical were taught in the Catechism.

Exempli Gratia:

"We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere 'to the end' and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God's eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ," (Catechism of the Catholic Church, par. 1821).

It appears that the Roman Catholic church is denying the essential doctrine of justification by faith. It says...

* "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema." (Canon 9, Council of Trent).

:: Notice that justification by faith alone is denied and heaven is the reward for doing good works. This is the problem. The RCC does not teach the biblical doctrine of justification by faith. It teaches justification by faith and works <-- a stark contrast to what the Bible teaches in Ephesians 2:8-9, and among other verses that talks about justification by grace through faith alone. ::

[pal]

mao ni ang giignon sa cathecism:

"Sacred images in our churches and homes are intended to awaken and nourish our faith in the mystery of Christ. Though the icon of Christ and his works of salvation, it is he whom we adore. Through sacred images of the holy Mother of God, of the angels and of the saints, we venerate the persons represented." (Pg. 337, #1192)

ug mao ni ang giignon sa bible:

ROMANS 10:17

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Nothing short of hearing and doing the Word of God will increase our faith.

karon unsaon mana pag reconcile nga contradicting mana ang duha.

if you are saying nga sakto ang cathecism, buot pasabot ba sayop ang bible?

Go bro!!!..

[SPIKE_CSA]

QUOTE=aztina888;2788273]ok lets start huh para makita nimu imung mga reply na gi tuyok tuyok..



klaro kaau dha hah.



so matud pa nimu kung ma mix na dli na pure.. diba?
how can you tell the TRUTH kung imung MIXAN ug LIES would you still call that TRUTH?
so SATAN will never tell the TRUTH.. kay if mu sulti sya ug TRUTH dli siya makapang daot sa GINOO, dli sya maka recruit.
gets?[/QUOTE]







Kay nag ingon sad diay ko nga TRUTH na ug ma mixan ug lies?

syaro sad ka aztina888 kahina ug panabot oi. ka klaro anang akong post nga 99.5 PERCENT TRUTH. Did i say ba gud nga 100 percent truth? OF COURSE WALA. and that is very possible ha nga while nagsulti ka ug tinood nya naa pud kay gisulti nga dili tinood. kasuway man gani siguro ka ana hehehe


Now sa imong question nga how can you tell the TRUTH kung imong mixan ug LIES?

ANSWER: Very simple ra kaau aztina888, magsulti raka ug tinood nya sagolan sad nimo ug dili tinood. simple as that ra gyud. lisod ba gud ng sabton?

example: moingon ka sa imong mama nga "Mom, i love you very much, magtarong gyud ko sa akong pag skwela dili gyud ko magpabadlong"

pero actually diay nag cutting classes diay ka ug daghan ka hagbong sa imong subjects. mao nay example sa TRUTH nga you really love ur mom but gi mix ug LIES which is moingon ka nga magtarong ka ug skwela pero wala diay.


nya klaro na?

and sa case ni satan, did you say nga dili siya mosulti ug truth?

look at this aztina888

MATTHEW 4:6 si satan nagsulti ani ha ni Jesus Christ

He said to Jesus, "Since you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, because it is written, 'God will put his angels in charge of you,' and 'With their hands they will hold you up, so that you will never hit your foot against a rock.'"


now kahibaw ka diin si satan ani?

sa PSALM 91:11-12

For He will give His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways.
They will bear you up in their hands, That you do not strike your foot against a stone.

See that? dili ba gud na tinood aztina888? OF COURSE IT IS kay gi quote gud na niya sa bible.

Now nakahibaw naka nga si satan mosulti sad gyud diay ug tinood pero iya lng e mix ug lies to deceive the people.

i hope nakasabot ka aztina888.

[aztina888]

logic.
99.5% pure water mixed with .5% oil = contaminated water
99.5% good food mixed with .5% poison = contaminated food

so therfore

99.5% truth mixed with .5% lie = LIE.

your example "Mom I love you very much...." and yet you lied about school. do you think wala ka nag lie when you said i love you and you lied about school? how can you say i love you and lie? pwde na?

and about your satan example?
he was simply manipulating Jesus. tinoud ba ang iya gi sulti? if tinuod pa to then Jesus would believed him. wouldnt you believe the truth?

[SPIKE_CSA]

logic.
99.5% pure water mixed with .5% oil = contaminated water
99.5% good food mixed with .5% poison = contaminated food

so therfore

99.5% truth mixed with .5% lie = LIE.

your example "Mom I love you very much...." and yet you lied about school. do you think wala ka nag lie when you said i love you and you lied about school? how can you say i love you and lie? pwde na?

and about your satan example?
he was simply manipulating Jesus. tinoud ba ang iya gi sulti? if tinuod pa to then Jesus would believed him. wouldnt you believe the truth?

sakto ka ana about contaminated water and contaminated food. nilalis ba gud ko nimo ana? mao bitaw na akong point ganina ug mao sad nga niingon ko nimo nga dili 100 PERCENT GOOD FOOD BUT 99.5 PERCENT ONLY.

syaro dili masabtan?

and about satan syaro dili lng gihapon ka kasabot sa akong point nga tinood to iyang gisulti kay gi quote to niya sa BOOK OF PSALMS?

nganong gahi man kay ka pasabton? sayop diay to nga gikan mana sa bible?

pero while nisulti si satan about atong iyang gi quote which is TRUE, satan also tells LIES

mao na akong point that SATAN WILL TELL TRUTH AND MIX IT WITH LIES.

[aztina888]

sakto ka ana about contaminated water and contaminated food. nilalis ba gud ko nimo ana? mao bitaw na akong point ganina ug mao sad nga niingon ko nimo nga dili 100 PERCENT GOOD FOOD BUT 99.5 PERCENT ONLY.

syaro dili masabtan?

and about satan syaro dili lng gihapon ka kasabot sa akong point nga tinood to iyang gisulti kay gi quote to niya sa BOOK OF PSALMS?

nganong gahi man kay ka pasabton? sayop diay to nga gikan mana sa bible?

pero while nisulti si satan about atong iyang gi quote which is TRUE, satan also tells LIES

mao na akong point that SATAN WILL TELL TRUTH AND MIX IT WITH LIES.

yup nakig lalis ka about sa food. naa na dha sa imu post and try to understand again the logic para maka sabot ka.
water mixed with oie is what?
food mixed with poison is what?
therfore:
TRUTH MIXED WITH LIE is what?

kato lagi na imu example about Mama I Love you churva but you lied about school. how can you say you love your mom and ended up lying? maka love ba ka and lie? hmmmm

[SPIKE_CSA]

yup nakig lalis ka about sa food. naa na dha sa imu post and try to understand again the logic para maka sabot ka.
water mixed with oie is what?
food mixed with poison is what?
therfore:
TRUTH MIXED WITH LIE is what?

kato lagi na imu example about Mama I Love you churva but you lied about school. how can you say you love your mom and ended up lying? maka love ba ka and lie? hmmmm

karon pako kasugat ug tao nga gahi kaayo pasabton hehehe

unsa imong pangutana? TRUTH MIXED WITH LIE IS WHAT?

ANSWER: IT IS A MIXTURE OF TRUTH AND LIE wherein there is truth and there is also a lie.

syaro di gihapon ka kasabot? hehehe

ug naa pa gyud koy pangutana nimo:

1. do you love your mom?

2. have you ever lied to your mom? maski kausa wala gyud?

[aztina888]

karon pako kasugat ug tao nga gahi kaayo pasabton hehehe

unsa imong pangutana? TRUTH MIXED WITH LIE IS WHAT?

ANSWER: IT IS A MIXTURE OF TRUTH AND LIE wherein there is truth and there is also a lie.

syaro di gihapon ka kasabot? hehehe

ug naa pa gyud koy pangutana nimo:

1. do you love your mom?

2. have you ever lied to your mom? maski kausa wala gyud?

hala oie dli jud sya ka tubag na TRUTH MIXED with LIE is LIE. ahahaha
asa man tong water mixed with oil is CONTAMINATED WATER?
ana sad d.i na its a mixture of water and oil. ahahaha faets gi rephrase lang di nlng jud sya ka sulti na ang truth contaminated with lie is a lie ahahaha

yes

dli lang kausa. kadghan na. and im not worthy to tell her i love her.
cge lang ka i love you i love you nya bakakon d.i to. saying I love you and lying to the person you love, do you think sakto na?

kani part. you always say i love you to your GF but naa d.i ka kabit sakto na? are you not lying to her?