Erap or GMA:who achieved more towards uplifting the life of the average Filipino

[FK]

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@randy111979... I did not say that ERAP is greater than GMA.Â* If I remember mura wala man tingali sab ko ni ingon nga mas maau si ERAP.Â* All I said that is that it's hard to compare the achievements kay si ERAP 2 years ra si GMA hapit na 5 yrs or lapas ba kaha.

ayaw'g sabta nga tungod ni samot ko og way bilib ni GMA nagpasabot na ni bilib ko ni ERAP as a president... as i've said to SPRINGFIELD before I was already willing to wait for GMA to act on her promises, pero onsaon ta man ni gawas na man ning baho niya... mo bilib pa ko niya?

[wanderlust]

wouldn't it be possible that these problems were inherited from the previous administration?

we can't use this excuse forever or else wala jud mahitabo... of course it's a very big challenge.

Why don't you just answer randy's question, FK?Â* Are you stumped?

FK, TEMPEST and SNMP: Am just curious. What is in ERAP or what did ERAP do that really makes him greater than GMA?

True.Â* That's what this thread is all about.Â* Bring it on.Â* What did your beloved Erap do??

[my_pet_monster]

what say i?

all these false alleluias are nothing but a vain attempt at painting a rosy picture of the country's deplorable condition under the present grip of the powergrabber at malacanang.

life today under gma's rule better off than that in erap's time? hogwash.

STOP that crap.

You have no knowledge 'bout these programs you already called it false. It's real for me, because it really is and I can attest to that. Like that SEA-K I'm talking about, I was a volunteer assistant for social workers years ago. I was there when the assigned social worker was giving lectures about basic business management and explaining the mechanics of the program. I've been to many places here in the Philippines and I've seen these botika ng baranggay, all DSWD regional branch have SEA-K program. All who have benefited from it are glad that a program as such increase. Why don't you visit DSWD and try asking them? Better, if you avail of that non-collateral loan I'm talking about.

I also have friends working in the farm, they don't blame the president or anybody else for their present status in life. They're happy knowing that their doing a decent job. It depends how we look at things. For every problem, there's a solution. You need not blame anybody else.

If all those programs are false, we won't be seeing those in the newspapers.

[my_pet_monster]

O.T.

@my_pet_lover: bai taga cebu ka sa una b4 ka nagpuyo sa Las Piñas?

I'm not from Cebu. I've only been there twice I guess. But, I've been to several places there. I forgot the name of the place. What I remember is that it's like a version of Luzon's Baguio. I was also in Bantayan Island, Cebu. Mactan and Cebu City.

[FK]

@wanderlust:

Why don't you just answer randy's question, FK? Â*Are you stumped?

Why would I be stumped? Ga too d i mo nga ni bilib ko ni ERAP as president?
please quote me when I said ERAP performed better than GMA before I answer his question directly.

Bring it on. Â*What did your beloved Erap do??

hehehe... and who said i love ERAP? Â*dili lagi tungod kay kontra ko ni GMA, maka-ERAP nako... chabot?

Para nako pareho ra si ERAP og imohang beloved GMA.

[riko diko]

@ pet monster... written pretty well. but those aren't achievements. those are things that a president should do. try posting relevant achievements. those that really matter.
erap has a lot of those petty achievements like you've posted. we can't dwell on those things, right?!. btw, check your figures, they sound good and funny. it would be better if it were seen and felt, not just heard. tsk tsk..

the only president that made achievements that matter is marcos. ramos... maybe,Â* cory... cha cha i guess.

@ wanderlust: wow! you must really really love GMA. you went out of your way to come up with this achievements thread of GMA, and compared it to Erap's. Geezz man! Erap's been long gone, and now you're bringing him up again, to talk about him etc... thinking your GMA will look good. think.

bai, it's human nature that no matter how great you are, once you've threatened "trust" all your achievements do not matter anymore. i'm not saying ha that GMA is great and has relevant achievements, but if you want to publish her achievements and all, and compare it to erap's, well go ahead for the sake of this thread, but never think she'll look better after this. no way. erap may look like a loser, but who cares, no one cares. erap do not matter.

don't be too in love with her man, you'll only hurt yourself.

@marquee: the only loyalists here are the GMA people. no one loves erap. but if you insist that i do, well if it makes you happy, fine.

put in mind that anti GMAs are such because they can't swallow her wrongdoings, and not because they want to destabilize our already destabilized nation, and not because they love erap or anyone. simple. don't complicate things.

it's better if you guys think who you should be loyal to.

[monrose29]

... ERAP or GMA... hmmm.. the different between them is their gender... but they are the same.. mga kurakot...

who achieved more? my answer is none of the above

[s.n.m.p.]

Salamat nga nag sulti ka sa tinood.

[bfginus]

what say i?

all these false alleluias are nothing but a vain attempt at painting a rosy picture of the country's deplorable condition under the present grip of the powergrabber at malacanang.

life today under gma's rule better off than that in erap's time? hogwash.

STOP that crap.

You have no knowledge 'bout these programs you already called it false. It's real for me, because it really is and I can attest to that. Like that SEA-K I'm talking about, I was a volunteer assistant for social workers years ago. I was there when the assigned social worker was giving lectures about basic business management and explaining the mechanics of the program. I've been to many places here in the Philippines and I've seen these botika ng baranggay, all DSWD regional branch have SEA-K program. All who have benefited from it are glad that a program as such increase. Why don't you visit DSWD and try asking them? Better, if you avail of that non-collateral loan I'm talking about.

I also have friends working in the farm, they don't blame the president or anybody else for their present status in life. They're happy knowing that their doing a decent job. It depends how we look at things. For every problem, there's a solution. You need not blame anybody else.

If all those programs are false, we won't be seeing those in the newspapers.

my friend, your brief foray into the countrysides to take part in the delivery of a few social services does not make you a better judge of the country's socio-economic condition.

practically all the services you mentioned had been part of every national government's program before.
erap had had his own poverty alleviation program that benefited the underprileged. LGUs like the Cebu provincial government (under the administration of then Gov. Vicente de la Serna) provided an even more comprehensive delivery of basic services aimed at people empowerment. one of the components of such services was the provision of free medicines and other health services to certified indigent beneficiaries. certain cebu congressmen also provide similar medical assistance to their poor constituents.

my point is that the delivery of services you mentioned is not a monopoly of gma. such services are just part of the common, ordinary fare dished out by any government administration that goes through the motion of ordinary governance.

what made the gma alleluiah kind of phony is that it tended to give the impression gloria had performed an exemplary act of statemanship which made a difference in the people's socio-economic life - when in fact she did not.

im no erap's fan but i dare say, life today is worse off than it was under the erap administration. go ask the common wage earners, the fisherfolk, poor farmworkers at hacienda luisita, the jeepney drivers, the lowly government employees, the factory workers, the ordinary man in the street, who constitute the bulk of population.

go ask them if their lives have been considerably better with gma's supposed "achievements" that you relayed to the readers.

no, let's not blame the media for the bleak national landscape that's staring us in the face. their message are but a reflection of the true sad state of the nation today.

blame the malacanang praise releases instead for the false sense of progress the have foisted upon the filipino people. gma's propaganda machine has been working round the clock, devising every clever deception in the book to hide the tragic reality under the present dispensation.

and these gma and her cohorts do, all for the love of power.

[my_pet_monster]

@ pet monster... written pretty well. but those aren't achievements. those are things that a president should do. try posting relevant achievements. those that really matter.
erap has a lot of those petty achievements like you've posted. we can't dwell on those things, right?!. btw, check your figures, they sound good and funny. it would be better if it were seen and felt, not just heard. tsk tsk..

the only president that made achievements that matter is marcos. ramos... maybe, cory... cha cha i guess.

i think you didn't read the entire message. i've mentioned there i'm a witness to some of those projects while some i've seen during my travels and some from my friends who happens to be one of the beneficiaries.

and you know what? when i visited one brgy in Manila and told them of the project, i remember what the bystander told me. erap during his administration promised them a livelihood project but that promise has gone with the wind. they were surprised that GMA was true to her word.

that's the very reason why i've admired her since. GMA is the hard-working type and when she says she'll be doing it right away. she'll be setting her targets because she is for results.

can you cite here erap's achievements?