Wiretapped Recordings of alleged Estrada plan to unseat Arroyo bared?

[tempest]

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what if this will be authenticated too? trust me, the "hello garci" tape will just die a natural death.

WHY? because the instigators from the opposition will ease on the issue and truth be told that they were not really after the truth.

it's a mind game.

UNSA'Y DI BIG DEAL?! ipapatay nila ang presidente para sila ang mo puli DILI NA BIG DEAL? it only goes to show how desperate this power-hungry beasts are.

Itong si lytspr, gustong gumaya kay Bunye pare. Under trainee ka ba ni Bunye? Bunye' School of lies and wild spins. Or baka nag enroll ka sa Mike Defensor's School of Lying and Black propaganda. Sa dalawang eskwelang ito may specialty sila. Bachelor of Arts in Squid Tactics and Wild Story telling. Meron din silang Masters in Tape Splicing.

Anong mamamatay sa natural death ang helo garci eh ngayon pa lang pinutakti na si Cahvit Singson dito sa Maynila ng batikos. Akala siguro ni Singson na maging hero siya at magpapalakas sa Presidente. Aba eh baligtad ho ang nangyari. Wala pong naniniwala sa tape nya. Ang reaction ng mga tao dito ay gawa gawa lang nya ang tape. besides ala namang credibilidad itong si Chavit Singson. Sana pumili sila ng mas kapani paniwala. Kaso, wala naman talagang kapani paniwala sa kampo ni Gloria ngayon.

So biglang naging issue ang kredibilidad ni Singson kasi si Erap niyo ang nasalang, noh? Pero sa tapes na nanggaling kina Paguia at Ong, wala kayong problema sa kredibilidad nila kasi galit din naman kayo kay GMA. Wala kayong problema sa kredibilidad nila kahit alam ninyong may ugnayan sila nina Erap at ng oposisyon. Si Tatad na nagbigay ng tapes kay Paguia wala rin kayong problema kahit kaalyado din ng oposisyon. Hindi importante yun sa inyo, ang importante ay malaman ang katotohanan. O ngayon, asan kayo? Biglang hindi na interesadong malaman ang katotohanan? Sino ngayon ang biased sa inyo ni LytSlpr?

Ha ha ha ha. Wala kasi silang makitang masama, eh dinadagdagan nila yung tape na ipa assassinate daw si PGMA. Isinama pa si Lacson at FVR. Napaka shllow naman ng script pare. At halatang halata na spliced yung last segment dahil clear yung isa at yung boses daw ni Erap ay hindi malinaw. Tsaka yung garci tapes, si garci ang "star" dun. Eh bait wala si garci dito? So malamang ibang tape to na ginawa ng malakanyang para sirain ang oposisyon.

Ah... kuntento na pala kayo sa "halata"? Basta pag masama sa imahe ni GMA, "halatang" totoo agad yun. Pag masama sa imahe ni Erap, "halatang" hindi totoo yun. Halata ang bias nyo tol.

Matagal na itong isyung gustong ipapatay nina Erap si GMA. Pero nagkainteres ba kayo na malaman ang katotohanan? Hindi, kasi biased kayo kay GMA.

Erap papatayin si GMA? Naks naman tol. Baka script yan sa pelikula ang nabasa mo. Kahit na bias sila si Tatad at si paguia, Immaterial yun tol. Ang tape mismo ang magpapatunay sa credibilidad nina Tatad at Paguia. At least orig ang tape nila. Si singson, bias na, gumawa pa nang tape na "peke."

Whewwwww!

[wanderlust]

@wanderlust:

nag too jud ka bai nga tinuod ang gipa-gawas ni Chavit? especially katong plot of to unseat Arroyo ang pagpatay ni Ramos?Â* Yep katong part nga nag istorya si ERAP with his supporter, I believe that was real... pero katong naa plot? do you seriously believe in it?Â* paminawa nya bai.

I am attacking the credibility of the contents of the recordings presented by Chavit.

Listen to the recordings bai... http://pcij.org/blog/wp-files/chavit...it-track06.mp3
it's the main evidence... and compare it to the quality of the Garci tape.

I have listened to the Erap tape and am keeping an open mind about it. Let the tape be authenticated, and if Chavit is found to be lying, then let him suffer the consequences, Erap should file the proper case against him.

[FK]

@wanderlust
> do you think there is something malicious about the conversation? pwede imo i-point out?

> do you think dili spliced ang conversation about sa plot?

>And are you keeping an open mind to the Garci tape?

[bad donkey!]

grabe kaau ang mga panghitabo run mga brad...mura jud ug salida ang resulta..pero nganu naghilomhilom raman si gloria? dili ba kaha nga naa siya alas nga gikoptan pang kontra sa opsisyon? unsa kaha?

[FK]

@bad_donkey: og ngano dili man niya ipagawas para mahoman na ni tanan.

[bad donkey!]

mao na ang pangutana sa tanan brad. nganu hilom lang siay. lets wait and see this coming monday..what time ang iya sona?

[FK]

@bad_donkey:
kong naa man gani siya alas... dapat i-clear gihapon niya ang allegation about sa tape.

O.T.
wala pa ko kahibaw onsa orasa.

[nunobone]

wanderlust,
if you've already listened to the "X"-tape,

Estrada: Hello.

Male: Hello

Estrada: Hello!

Male: Hello, sir.

Estrada: Saan ka na?

Male: Nakauwi na sir.

Estrada: Uhm, bakit?

Male: Tapos na meeting, sir. Good news, okay na kay Ping.

Estrada: Ano? Ano?

Male: Ok na sir. Pumayag na si Sen. Lacson.

Estrada: Ah, ganon?

Male: Ganon na nga, sir. Pag napatalsik na si Pandak at may transition government na, magkakasakit na si Tanda. Pwede na natin ipitin siguro ang Kaliwa, sir.

Estrada: Uhm…

Male: Tuloy na plano, sir. Pwede na i-sacrifice si Tanda, tutal tapos na siya, sir.

Estrada: Ok, ok, sige…
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paminawa igka sulti ni Male kay naay background na sound indicating na Cellular ang gigamit(try calling someone duol sa radyo, basta ing.ana ang sound sa background) then igka tingog ni Erap, mawala ang background.. mura WALKIE TALKIE puli2x og tingog!! if gi wiretapp na siya, pareho sila og background!
i think makasabot man cguro ang ordinaryong tao ana..

[juncarl143]

Bravo.. pwde na mo mahimo og komentarista sa radyo.. Hehhehe bitaw klaro kaayo na spliced ang audio anang erap wiretap oi. Sos bisan ako sayun ra kaayo na e sumpay2x sa cool edit na software. Di na ko mailad anang mga butanga. Pastilan sad jud atik aning Chavit. Kapuy na kaayo paminawn aning politika diri sa nasud.

[FK]

an opinion from Randy David... difference between X-Tape and the Garci tape.

"Talking is acting," says Wesley Sharrock, a British sociologist. "Members (of a speech community) do not have a general problem of describing or explaining 'everything' that happens. They do not typically produce actions and then, separately and independently, try to describe or explain what they have done. Sometimes, of course, when what is happening is 'specifically senseless,' members will explicitly offer descriptions or explanations to make sense of something-they will produce what Garfinkel calls 'formulations'."

Compare the conversations in the "X-tape" with those in the "Hello Garci" tape. Here is an intriguing one from the latter, possibly among the most incriminating of the Garci conversations:

Garci: Hello Ma'am.

Ma'am: Hello, atsaka ano, ano, yung kabila, they they're trying to get the Namfrel copy of the municipal COCs.

Garci: Saang Namfrel ho? Namfrel copies ho?

Ma'am: Uhm-uhm.

Garci: Ay wala naman, ok naman ang Namfrel sa atin. They are now sympathetic to us.

Ma'am (mumbling in a lowered voice): Oo, oo, oo ... (garbled) Namfrel does not tally ... Pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag.

Garci: Ah, oho, we will, we will get an advance copy ho natin kung anong kwan nila.

What makes this conversation credible? Ma'am brings up a ticklish problem she does not state till toward the end. Instead, she refers to a seemingly harmless event -- namely, the other side is trying to get Namfrel copies of the municipal Certificates of Canvass, or COCs. Garci does not see right away why this is a problem. So he answers with a question: Namfrel where? He knows which groups of the National Citizens Movement for Free Elections, or Namfrel, he controls. He allays Ma'am's unease by assuring her Namfrel is cooperating. Ma'am seems aware of that, but that's not what she is inquiring about. The point is the "dagdag" (the padding), a bad word she is hesitant to utter but could not avoid. She wants Garci to make sure the Namfrel copies in the concerned municipalities reflect the "dagdag," but nowhere does she explicitly tell him so. She assumes he understands what she's saying and what he needs to do. Garci finally gets it, and so he tells her: We will; we will get an advance copy so we will know what ("kwan") they have. He does not elaborate.

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