Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

[mordecai_327]

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...in addition: though it will provide a plausible, educated guess, studying Jewish customs (from their early childhood years up to becoming adults) and lifestyle might give a picture of what Jesus had experienced during those so called "lost years" of his life.

[LightHouse]

the man Jesus went to india and tibet to learn from the Masters. he also went to egypt to be initiated in the sacred mysteries. he traveled a lot to learn from Masters of different cultures.

sorry sir but this is unfounded.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

OT: ...scholars who devoted themselves in the study and analysis of God and of God's attributes and relations to the universe call themselves Theologians, not theologists.

:: About Jesus' childhood years...

What happened during Jesus' childhood?

Other than Luke 2:41-52, the Bible does not tell us anything about Jesus’ youth. From this incident we do know certain things about Jesus’ childhood. First, He was the son of parents who were devout in their religious observances. As required by their faith, Joseph and Mary made the yearly pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Passover. In addition, they brought their 12-year-old son to celebrate His first Feast in preparation for His bar mitzvah at age 13, when Jewish boys commemorate their passage into adulthood. Here we see a typical boy in a typical family of that day.

We see also in this story that Jesus’ lingering in the temple was neither mischievous nor disobedient, but a natural result of His knowledge that He must be about His Father’s business. That He was astonishing the temple teachers with His wisdom and knowledge speaks to His extraordinary abilities, while His listening and asking questions of His elders shows that He was utterly respectful, taking the role of a student as was fitting for a child of His age.

From this incident to His baptism at age 30, all we know of Jesus’ youth was that He left Jerusalem and returned to Nazareth with His parents and “was obedient to them” Luke 2:51. He fulfilled His duty to His earthly parents in submission to the 5th commandment, an essential part of the perfect obedience to the law of Moses which He rendered on our behalf. Beyond that, all we know is that “Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men" (Luke 2:52).

For Christians: Evidently, this is all God determined that we needed to know. There are some extra-Biblical writings which contain stories of Jesus’ youth (the Gospel of Thomas, for example). But we have no way of knowing whether any of these stories are true and reliable. God chose not to tell us much about Jesus’ childhood – so we have to just trust Him that nothing occurred which we need to know about.



...any valid arguments why you say it was biased?

Clearly said. nakasabot pud ko sir thanks.
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OT:
regarding your last statement sir, Don't ask for his valid argument/s been asking one but wala man, pulos lang one liner statement either unsubstantiated or a statement echoing the arguments made by his comrades, pero iyaha, wala man nako ma-observe pa, except that he said he is rich and is helping the filipino people kuno, and that he is a jetsetter. very successful in his field.ug finally wala gyud ka pamakak. hehehe

[boomer]

-so we have to just trust Him that nothing occurred which we need to know about.



...any valid arguments why you say it was biased?

so it all boils down to one single itsy bitsy teeeny weeeny thread....FAITH.

FAITH in BIBLE GOD? or MEN who claims to "know" the words of GOD.

[ARAH]

wrong. hermetics is not being about solitude. Hermetics is a series of occult teachings from the great Hermes Trismegistus a.k.a. Thoth of ancient Egyptian teachings.

practicing hermit nga dili God-seeking,, aww segurado na nga self decieve kay self seeking man.. falsification man na.. pero wala ko nag skwela hap.. na..

suggest lang dong ha.

[oTnur]

How many there are who perish because of vain worldly knowledge and too little care for serving God. They became vain in their own conceits because they chose to be great rather than humble.

He is truly great who has great charity. He is truly great who is little in his own eyes and makes nothing of the highest honor. He is truly wise who looks upon all earthly things as folly that he may gain Christ. He who does God's will and renounces his own is truly very learned.

[oTnur]

DO NOT yield to every impulse and suggestion but consider things carefully and patiently in the light of God's will. For very often, sad to say, we are so weak that we believe and speak evil of others rather than good. Perfect men, however, do not readily believe every talebearer, because they know that human frailty is prone to evil and is likely to appear in speech.

Not to act rashly or to cling obstinately to one's opinion, not to believe everything people say or to spread abroad the gossip one has heard, is great wisdom.

[rcruman]

Technique of walking? Do you mean to say it can be learned? I thought that was a miracle. Hmmm, I probably missed that part in the bible. Moreover, it was not the question of performing technique/miracle - the question was about his dissapearance from childhood to adulthood (18 years).

disappearance from childhood to adulthood (18 years) from 12 years old upto 30 years old?
I think we should go back to the foundation sister.
It doesn't follow that no record in the bible from 12 years old upto 30 years old kay pasabot ana nawagtang siya og niadto sa laing lugar to learn from the masters as what the other people think.
Beh makabasa baka sa bible information niya from 2 years old siya, 3 years old siya, 4 years old siya, 5 years old siya or 6 years old siya and so on? so how about i-apil pud nimo ni sa laing libro or himo kag laing libro nga naay information sa ani nga edad niya.

The purpose of Jesus here on earth is to preach the word of God or the Gospel not His own.

mao bitaw nakaingon si John nga:

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
John 21:25

pero ang ila gisulat kay kato rang naay labot sa ato kaluwasan.
Gusto pa gyud diay nimo ipasulat nga sa edad og 13 si Jesus mao ni iya gibuhat, sa nag edad siyag 14 mao ni iya gibuhat, sa nag edad siyag 15 mao ni iya gibuhat.

Pero sa bible sister ato kuno pangutan-on ang mga nagsulat og ang mga judio kung unsay masulti nila kang Jesus.

3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Mark 6:3

in this verse clearly that Jesus is a carpenter so sa "disappearance" nga imo gikuptan og gituohan kay mao ni ang tubag, nagpanday si Jesus kay si Joseph carpenter pud.
Sa unang panahon kung unsay trabaho sa imo papa kay basically mao pud ang masunod.
Pero dili ka kabasa sa bible nga pag 13 niya nagpanday siyag balay ni talpulana, pag 14 kay nagpanday siya sa balay ni prototaloy, pag 15 niya kay nagpanday siya sa balay ni procopio.

Ang dakong pangutana sister, sa libro nga imo gi-refer nabuhat ba sa mga tao nga nagpuyo sa lugar nga niadto "kuno" siya og nagkat-on didto ang gibuhat ni JESUS?
nabuhat ba nila ang pagbuhig patay,pasiga sa mata sa buta, pag-ayo sa sangla, og uban pa?
kung milagro imo tawag ana aw makamilagro ba ang mga tao sa iya "kuno" giadtuan for 18 years? so kung dili makaya sa mga tao ang milagro unsa man diay ang nakat-unan ni Jesus didto sa mga lugar nga kuno iya giadtuan for 18 years?

kana lang sa aron naay flow ato discussion.


Peace!

[Hellblazer]

the grandest teaching of Christ was not that you shall have everlasting life---but that you do; not that you shall have brotherhood in God, but that you do; not that you shall have whatever you request, but that you do.

all that is required is to know this. for you are the creator of your reality, and life can show up no other way for you than that way in which you think it will.

you think it into being. this is the first step in creation. God the Father is thought. your thought is the parent which gives birth to all things.

[rcruman]

the grandest teaching of Christ was not that you shall have everlasting life---but that you do; not that you shall have brotherhood in God, but that you do; not that you shall have whatever you request, but that you do.

all that is required is to know this. for you are the creator of your reality, and life can show up no other way for you than that way in which you think it will.

you think it into being. this is the first step in creation. God the Father is thought. your thought is the parent which gives birth to all things.

can you give me a teaching of CHrist that will not lead to salvation and have everlasting life?

Where did you get these statements bro?

Peace!