FRAT WAR...THREAT TO PEACE

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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@ LYTSLPR ...... yes you are right of posting such images that are WANTED but then what are your basis and means of the contents for you to say that they are WANTED ? Yes wanted sa mga brod nimo but not from the authorities . You dont know them personally ..... 1 picture in there describing who he is is not even him .

YES you are right that the pictures of CTAO in there are not WANTED by the POLICE but they are responsible to some point of a minimum of coniving to COMMIT a crime . So we still have that right to make it because the contents VIOLATED a law . WOuld you agree TGP or non-TGP ?

Â* By the way , speaking of ALUMNI trying to be clean and example brods kuno ..... ingna na imong brod na naa sa PHILIPPINE AIR FORCE ha , sakto na ang pag supply niya ug BALA sa mga tirador ninyo kuno . Ingna siya SAYANG lang iyang gi sikwat na BALA sa gobyerno kay mga bulay-og man mo tira inyong tirador , pulis pa man intawn duha duha ang kurso . Kung mo deny ka ani ambot lang lage kung aktibo ba ka sa frat nimo bai .

Bai ..... tell that to the AKP members in Cebuwhat you told me " it was NOT SANCTIONED by the CTAO nor the ALUMNI." and not to me . Maybe they will listen to you . Lesson learn bai .... never discuss any sensitive matters in the net like plans and ART of WAR kunuhay ninyo against namo . Gi luto ra mo sa inyong kaugalingon mantika , pagod pa gyud hinuon mo.Â* Â*


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[BhUr9z]

the pictures i believe were posted because they were suspects of a crime and were wanted by the police and are in hiding. is there something wrong with that, AKP or non-AKP? posting the TGP alumni pics were uncalled for because those individuals are not WANTED. if a TGP member is a suspect, wanted of a crime by the police and is in hiding, then by all means make a website. we don't mind, infact it's the right thing to do.

let me clarify things... you said u were never aware of such a site that we ask u to shut down before... now ur tellin(advocating) that it is rightful indeed to post it coz they were wanted by the authorities. What authorities, police or ur org? tsk3 another slip of the tongue bai.. and mind u, we wont disagree if it shud have been named: www.policewanted.gov.ph but wat was its domain name it was grateful to have intercepted such a plot before to our leaders otherwise, ul be celebrating ur hearts out till today if it was done!!! Like wat happend to such celebration sa nu alang2 chap the afternoon right after one of our brod was hit in consolacion... sayang nga lang kay naa sad nag-hilak2 d following day kay gpriso.. (correct me if im wrong!)

Funny it may seems pero, its been happening... too bad, 5 straight hits in less than a month with the same pattern and all pero different personalities. does it comply to wat u said "personal vendetta" kay tanan mga victims naa atraso sa mga nagpatay sa ilaha... hahay... i dont wanna think na ur just cleaning things up here sa istorya while the full details are hidden. even so, i would still respect wat u said here and its ur preference, lets just share sentiments. Lets back track things from the past and determine how the situation will go through in the present.

[Wind Shear]

And take note, naa ang ubang miyembro sa frat kusog mogamit ug pangalan para madaot ilang fraternity maski personal grudge diay to.

[LytSlpr]

let me clarify things... you said u were never aware of such a site that we ask u to shut down before... now ur tellin(advocating) that it is rightful indeed to post it coz they were wanted by the authorities. What authorities, police or ur org? tsk3 another slip of the tongue bai..

wa ko ma slip of the tongue bai. slip of the tongue connotes lying. it was spring who told me such site exists and eventually indirectly made me discover such site. kindly re-analyze.

as i've said, if bisan diri wala ta'y bisan gamay pag salig, wa gyu'y mahitabo nato tanan.

[LytSlpr]

@ LYTSLPR ...... yes you are right of posting such images that are WANTED but then what are your basis and means of the contents for you to say that they are WANTED ? Yes wanted sa mga brod nimo but not from the authorities . You dont know them personally ..... 1 picture in there describing who he is is not even him .

YES you are right that the pictures of CTAO in there are not WANTED by the POLICE but they are responsible to some point of a minimum of coniving to COMMIT a crime . So we still have that right to make it because the contents VIOLATED a law . WOuld you agree TGP or non-TGP ?

Â* By the way , speaking of ALUMNI trying to be clean and example brods kuno ..... ingna na imong brod na naa sa PHILIPPINE AIR FORCE ha , sakto na ang pag supply niya ug BALA sa mga tirador ninyo kuno . Ingna siya SAYANG lang iyang gi sikwat na BALA sa gobyerno kay mga bulay-og man mo tira inyong tirador , pulis pa man intawn duha duha ang kurso . Kung mo deny ka ani ambot lang lage kung aktibo ba ka sa frat nimo bai .

Bai ..... tell that to the AKP members in Cebuwhat you told me " it was NOT SANCTIONED by the CTAO nor the ALUMNI." and not to me . Maybe they will listen to you . Lesson learn bai .... never discuss any sensitive matters in the net like plans and ART of WAR kunuhay ninyo against namo . Gi luto ra mo sa inyong kaugalingon mantika , pagod pa gyud hinuon mo.Â* Â*

they were "officially" wanted by the police because they were suspects in hiding. gipa-sakaan to sila ug kaso unya nitago, di ba wanted na?

if naa man gani ni conive sa CTAO, nganong gi-apil man ninyo tanan? moreover, di man to mga wanted sa police? para lang mo makabalos? mao na'y gi-ingon that even in war, there should be ethics among adversaries. kay pwede ang ma biktima sa inyong gibuhat connected ra pud ninyo.

ako lang message sa tanan AKP diri is this, in WAR pildi tang tanan. now granting allegedly, nag sagunson ug so called hits, it's not enough to declare an ALL OUT WAR. nganon man? kay mas daghan inosente in both groups ang madamay.Â* kung nag lagot gyud mo sa mga ni tira, sila ang bawsi ninyo.

di na lang ta mag kwentahay, kay atong duha ka grupo puro man naay sala sa usa'g usa. kay kung mag iphanay ta, taas ng storya, mo balik na sad ta sa una, human walay mangangkon.Â* Kamong karaan sa AKP i don't know if you will agree with me nga kamo man gyud ang nakalabaw ug pamira sa amoa. WHY? first, your questionable creed, second, sa number and quality of members. kung daghan OSY sa amo, mas daghan gyud ang inyoha.

so di na lang nin nato hisgutan. ang atong hisgutan ron unsa atong mabuhat nga di ni mo escalate into a WAR.

as i've said mag pingpong effect na sad ni.Â* allegedly kami lang ang naka pabor karon.Â* with this i am no longer talking to you as a triskelion but as a plain human being and citizen.Â*

mura gyud ta ani ug mga amaw, kay ang kasagaran ma igo tungod sa atong kadaghan kay to ra sad mga igsoon, ig-agaw, pamilya, paryente, suod nga higala or kauban sa trabaho.

kani sad mga local (in cebu) na mga miyembro in both groups di magpadala sa "amats" sa mga naa sa abroad or outside cebu nga mga instigator na dapat i-defend atong phi***phy and pride kay mura ra na sila ug gaduwa ug RPG game sa playstation didto kay wala na ilang mga anino diri unya mao na'y isog kaayo manulti unya kaming mga frontliners diri mao'y mag bago ug mo um-om sa gasto ug problema sa mga biktima ug casualty asta pud ang peligro.

[JoRed]

The irony of it all is the hypocrisy of espousing brotherhood of all men & yet, behaving like little boys! Very trivial. Guys, there are more pressing issues on hand than that pride & macho thingy. Rise above all these challenges as men of noble endeavor. You have taken the oath. Now, LIVE the solemn promise.

[potterboy]

And take note, naa ang ubang miyembro sa frat kusog mogamit ug pangalan para madaot ilang fraternity maski personal grudge diay to.

kuyawa gud anang miyembroha. ana diay na? hasta nang manira ug anak sa ilang kontra?

i havent met that kind in AKP. we may be able to tell them not to react or act. but thats all we can do for them. kung naa sila buhaton wala nami mahimo para ikapugong. everybody knows why such actions had to be done. like i said, successive hits cant be accepted as a coincidence.

wala na gyud mi laing mahimo. kutob nalang mi sa pagsulti ug pagbadlong. wala naman unta ni. or it cud have been lighter kung gamay ra ang panghitabo. masettle ra sa mga biktima. the problem is, mga alumni man gud ang nanglihok. the least expected personas to do such damage cud trigger sumthing worse.

i thought the peace pact is on its way to make a difference. depirinsya man diay naa. wala naman nuon nag-abot ang mga panghitabo sa suposd plan.

[Dgreat_Latin_luvr]

LytSlpr it's been a while since my last post here in istorya.net. Bai last time nakong post diri abi nako ug maayo na ang dagan sa atong pagstorya bahin sa pag-undang sa kagubot between our groups. Remember this post?

To my Skeptron friends in this forum:

Today, June 11 we will be having our Leadership Training Seminar.Â* It is a 2 day live-in seminar to be well-particpated by all the chapter Grand Triskelions, CPC & CTAO officers.Â* Yours truly had the privilege of outlining the agenda and the seminar guidelines.Â* I will be delivering a motivational speech to all the participants as well.Â* With your trust I included in the seminar outline ways for peace and means for the personal growth and wholistic development of our fraternity.Â* That means, we will try our best to inculcate a different vision and perspective and in the process they will no longer focus on violence of retaliation and will eventually have no interest in it anymore. We will rechannel their interest, energy and talents.

LytSlpr nindot kaayo paminawon ang imong gipasalig sa amo-a, but unsa ma'y nahitabo after ana? 5 ang na igo sa among membro hasta intawon tong usa ka brod namo nga ning-in active na gidaginot pa gyud ninyo ug bira didto sa likod sa SWU. Bai LytSlpr tubaga ko kung apil ba ni sa inyong plano kadtong nag-leadership training seminar kunohay mo? Â*Sa panahon nga among gihatag ninyo para unta mahusay ning atong gubot diri sa Cebu, Inyoha man hinuong gi-take advantage aron motira sa among mga membro. Â* Bai ayaw na i-depensa ang imong bakak kay matud pa sa mga insik " Daghang Sulti, Daghang Sayop."


So karon kinsa man ang mga Triador nato ani? Unsa man ninyo pagkahibalo nga mosalig pa gyud mi ninyo? Bai ayaw na ibalik ang, nganong kadtong sa una after sa peace pact inyoha man pud gibirahan ang among brods. Â*Bai ayaw nana gamitang rason kay ningkita nana cya. Â*Ang akong gipasabot nga karon, nganong inyohang gisayang ang pagrespetar nga among gihatag sa inyoha, suma ba gud after mi nagpasalig nga Â*let's give peace a chance. Na headline pa ba ta sa news? Nagpakita lang gyud mi nga seryoso mi, pero kamo wala gyud mo nagpakita ug respeto namo.

Karon kay mura'g ang mga ALUMNI naman hinuon ninyo ang nag-una2x. Kamo man unta ang mamadlong sa inyohang mga membro. Btw, kadto diay'ng Â* brod namo nga gitira sa inyohang mga Alumni ngadto sa consolacion, ig-agaw to nako bai. Pasalamat lang to silang Mateo Pascual ug John Perez nga buhi tong ig-agaw nako kay sa munti ra ang ilahang padulngan. Ingna si mateo ug si john nga hutdanay lang mi ug kwarta.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

The irony of it all is the hypocrisy of espousing brotherhood of all men & yet, behaving like little boys! Very trivial. Guys, there are more pressing issues on hand than that pride & macho thingy. Rise above all these challenges as men of noble endeavor. You have taken the oath. Now, LIVE the solemn promise.

Like you know the INS and OUT of FRATERNITIES and you talk like one ..... I think that is more CHILDISH and being a LITTLE BOY .

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

they were "officially" wanted by the police because they were suspects in hiding. gipa-sakaan to sila ug kaso unya nitago, di ba wanted na?

Â* Â* Unsa na kaso bai ? Mere speculations cguro and if ever man gani aware ka sa website , obviosly nakakita ka sa contents . Now you tell me the what are the contents ... is it to provide information to make the police job easier or " PURE HAGIT " ?? YES or NO ra ang tubag ana bai .

if naa man gani ni conive sa CTAO, nganong gi-apil man ninyo tanan? moreover, di man to mga wanted sa police? para lang mo makabalos? mao na'y gi-ingon that even in war, there should be ethics among adversaries. kay pwede ang ma biktima sa inyong gibuhat connected ra pud ninyo.

Â* Â* Gi apil tanan ?? Tanan na diay to bai ?? Wala pa man to nakatunga gani kay wala man pod didto si FLOR de la ROSAÂ* , anyways ..... sobra pa sa CONIVE bai because it was DISCUSSED in a manner where all CTAO members can agree on and share with it . Remember you discussion group with a supposed to be HIGH END SECURITY features but then kamo ra like I said gi luto sa kaugalingon na mantika ? Pagod pa gyud ?


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ako lang message sa tanan AKP diri is this, in WAR pildi tang tanan. now granting allegedly, nag sagunson ug so called hits, it's not enough to declare an ALL OUT WAR. nganon man? kay mas daghan inosente in both groups ang madamay.Â* kung nag lagot gyud mo sa mga ni tira, sila ang bawsi ninyo.

Â* Â*Well quit beating the bush . It is not so called HITS , they are actual HITS because they are carried out by non OSY and EDUCATED TGP MEMBERS with high ranking positions in your frat.

di na lang ta mag kwentahay, kay atong duha ka grupo puro man naay sala sa usa'g usa. kay kung mag iphanay ta, taas ng storya, mo balik na sad ta sa una, human walay mangangkon.Â* Kamong karaan sa AKP i don't know if you will agree with me nga kamo man gyud ang nakalabaw ug pamira sa amoa. WHY? first, your questionable creed, second, sa number and quality of members. kung daghan OSY sa amo, mas daghan gyud ang inyoha.

Â* Â* Hadlok man diay mo mo IHAPANAY , ngano mo hagit man gyud mo . By the way , ayaw i factor ang OUT of SCHOOL YOUTH bai .... remember SPO1 MATEO PASCUAL and JOHN PEREZ are alumni's , meaning nakahuman sa COLLEGE ug mga professionals .

Secondly , can you expound more the " QUESTIONABLE CREED " kay murag wala ko nasayod ana . Ako lang maikasulti gyud noh , OSY man gani but at least they did their part to be one unlike sa non TGP " hitmens " na BINAYRAN ug PASUYOPON . Ingna si MItchel FLores , wala pa na siya ma TGP , kahibalo nami unsay Art of War mao ayaw mi gamiti ana kay samot mo ug KAPAGOD .

so di na lang nin nato hisgutan. ang atong hisgutan ron unsa atong mabuhat nga di ni mo escalate into a WAR.

Â* Â*Ato hisgutan bai no , PEACE TALK usab . FUnny it may seems but then tunga mo tanan CTAO and not your neophytes . Ayaw mo pangimbita ug mga abogado ninyo sa MMRC kay wala man na silay kalibutan . Hadlok mo ni OAMINAL ? Ayaw mo kahadlok oi ..... kahadlokan hinuon ninyo ang biktima na nabuhi , makes more sense .

as i've said mag pingpong effect na sad ni.Â* allegedly kami lang ang naka pabor karon.Â* with this i am no longer talking to you as a triskelion but as a plain human being and citizen.Â*

Â* The point is , INFLUENTIAL ka sa position nimo sa Cebu as a TGP . We are not barking at the wrong tree and walay nakapabor ... well .... speaking of nakapabor , are you imlying already that it was executed on purpose ?

mura gyud ta ani ug mga amaw, kay ang kasagaran ma igo tungod sa atong kadaghan kay to ra sad mga igsoon, ig-agaw, pamilya, paryente, suod nga higala or kauban sa trabaho.

Â* Â*Mao gyud , kadto napagan sa CONSOLACION na tig vulcanize sa ligid , bisan hepe pa na si PASCUAL di na siya maka afford bayad sa hospital bills atong bataa .

kani sad mga local (in cebu) na mga miyembro in both groups di magpadala sa "amats" sa mga naa sa abroad or outside cebu nga mga instigator na dapat i-defend atong phi***phy and pride kay mura ra na sila ug gaduwa ug RPG game sa playstation didto kay wala na ilang mga anino diri unya mao na'y isog kaayo manulti unya kaming mga frontliners diri mao'y mag bago ug mo um-om sa gasto ug problema sa mga biktima ug casualty asta pud ang peligro.

Â* Â* You should tell that to your fellow CTAO members , remmeber them asking FINANCIAL SUPPORT from your brods in the MIDDLE EAST , NORTH AMERICA etc ? Aron I wipe out ang AKP sa Cebu ? Ingna ko ug bakakon kay naa nako tanan inyong DISCUSSION baya since day sa sa CTAO and all the YAHOO GROUYPS where TGP existed .

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Â* Â*Wala tika gi duot diri , ISTORYANS have no idea at all on whats going on . All they know are VIOLENCE here and there but the CORE . Go tell your fellow brods to make up there mind if they really want peace or if they really want war kung di ka ganahan naay mapagan na TGP na walay labot . You are a CTAO and an OFFICER so if you really care for your well being and the future of TGP in Cebu then I believe , you need to act now .