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[situnsko]

ahm..okay...

[The_Child]

the perfect communism is a utopian dream!

its hard coded already in out genes to be better than someone else.

If you study 8-10 years to be a doctor... you expect JUST compensation for that investment. You cannot have the same salary as an office clerk who just graduated from college.

Communism was doomed from the start! Look at the only remaining communist countries... can you name any country that is still communist? as opposed to socialist ha! More "communist" countries are now going into capitalism. Russia with their Oil, China... Even Cuba.

North Korea... ahhh i dont know about that country!

this is another misinterpretation of Marx. when he said a classless society, referring to Communism, he does not mean that everybody is equal. Communism does not imply equality, dont get that wrong, but what it means by classless society is the abolishment of the antagonization of classes, the bourgeois (capitalists) and the proletariat (working class) In Communism, it does not mean that a doctor's job and benefits would be equal to a floor sweeper, no offense.

its more trickier than that. His immortal quote: " from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" thats tricky. your are not forced to work to in a dehumanizing level, and you get as much as you need. forgive the simplification.

[cebu1029]

LOL.....This thread is 20 years too late.....
ehhh... Russia is not communist, it's a representative democracy like the US, dont confuse Russia with the Soviet Union...

my mistake!

[cebu1029]

this is another misinterpretation of Marx. when he said a classless society, referring to Communism, he does not mean that everybody is equal. Communism does not imply equality, dont get that wrong, but what it means by classless society is the abolishment of the antagonization of classes, the bourgeois (capitalists) and the proletariat (working class) In Communism, it does not mean that a doctor's job and benefits would be equal to a floor sweeper, no offense.

so what did marx suggest to abolish antagonism between the classes?

its more trickier than that. His immortal quote: " from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" thats tricky. your are not forced to work to in a dehumanizing level, and you get as much as you need. forgive the simplification.

a doctor will have more needs than a floor sweeper.

[situnsko]

minaw lang mi ninyo...daghan sad ko nakuha mga inpormasyon...this a good thread..

[LytSlpr]

for all the right, practical, objective and logical reasons, of course.

being dictated, regulated and manipulated by one or a few makes one very powerful and is prone to absolute corruption.

nag de-communize na man gani ang kasagaran communist nation because it is not the way to globalization, and here were are talking about it and some are even considering it.

[situnsko]

salute all you...

[internasyonalista]

nag de-communize na man gani ang kasagaran communist nation because it is not the way to globalization, and here were are talking about it and some are even considering it.

mao gyud lagi na ang problema kay ang gitoohan nato nga "communist nations" dili man tinuod nga komunista kondili state capitalist regimes man sila. ang giingon nga "de-communism" gihukas lamang nila ang ilang maskara nga "komunista" aron makita na gyud ang ilang tinood nga nawong...

imposible nga matukod ang communism sa usa ka nasud...ang communism matukod lamang kon mabungkag na ang kapitalismo sa tibuon kalibotan. ang stalinism-maoism dili communism kondili STATE CAPITALISM.

[The_Child]

so what did marx suggest to abolish antagonism between the classes?



exactly the abolishment of the capitalist system.

a doctor will have more needs than a floor sweeper.

define needs. a doctor needs a Hi-def TV more than a floor sweeper? is that what you mean by need?

[The_Child]

for all the right, practical, objective and logical reasons, of course.

being dictated, regulated and manipulated by one or a few makes one very powerful and is prone to absolute corruption.

nag de-communize na man gani ang kasagaran communist nation because it is not the way to globalization, and here were are talking about it and some are even considering it.

Again, if i have to repeat it all over, there was never a Communist state in our History. They are merely poseurs!