Is Evolutionist Science worth believing?

[Mr.Ho_chia]

A recurring theme in antievolution literature is that if science cannot account for the origin of life, evolution is false, and that "spontaneous generation" was disproven, so therefore evolution is false. This syllogism fails, because evolution (that is, common descent and transmutation of species) occurs whether or not life arose by chance, law or design, but there is another more insidious mistake here. It is not true that "spontaneous generation" has been ruled out in all cases by science; the claims disproven were more restricted than that.




Credit goes to John S. Wilikns from Talkorigins.org


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Since my friend doesnt want to go toe to toe with me on micro to macro discussion. cguro ganahan siya ani cge padayun ta.

hahaha. an attempt to rationalize unproven theory. bwahaha.

yah, spontaneous generation! so asa gkan? sa bato? d a raman d i na! spontaneous generation and you say it is misinterpretation that life came from a none life such as a rock!

What a confused monk!


and there you go again! spontaneous generation not ruled out by science. So?, this is evidence? that it is true? kay not proven to be not possible? bwahahaha. such desperate moves by desperate people! Monk the burden of proof is always on the affirmative! why would i dieprove something that has not been proven in the first place. bwahahahahahaha. buking! Exposed!

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hahayyy kalooy jud intawn sa mga evolutionist hehehe

[SPIKE_CSA]

macro evolution is empircal science daw wa mo kuyapi? bwahahahaha

[Tattva]

@Mr.Ho_chia


Cut the crap Mr.Sio_mai. Is this how the owner of Mr.Ho_chia behaves? tsk tsk. No wonder your Sio_mai reflects your personality.

If you were only here, see my face,its all bright. And again for the nth time i am not a monk. You see, here you are again saying saomething w/c i am not. I wonder what your God thinks about you. You better repent from your Sins Mr.False Accuser.

By the way buddhism permits agression when it is use to destroy a false view like what you are having.

"Behold if anyone is in christ he is a new creature?" I dont see that in you. Too bad, how can you change from glory to glory? your pride is taking you down, listen to the voice in you thats says. "let it go". I think im gonna visit one of your stalls this coming week. Lets see if it is what it claim to be as Ho_chia.

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Mix breeding? Were you asking a question or did you acknowledged that it is indeed evolution? Your sentence has a question mark right there.

Microsoft excel,word and powerpoint? Naa ni silay DNA? CONFUSE na pod ka? tsk tsk tsk. my advise to you was go to a site where evolution is being explain w/o any religious biases.

Wow a confuse creationist is telling me what evolution is and is not? Very Ironic.

Cite any definition from biological evolution that covers and explain the ultimate origin of life. Di ba wala kay makita. This is again asserting a false view about biological evolution. tsk tsk. FYI, Mr.Self-righteous Sio mai, Biological evolution do not deal with the ultimate origin of life because that belongs to RELIGION and evolution is not a religion.

Pssst imong argument Mr.Sio-mai ga balik balik na lang na. cge ka ug ingun walay evidence nya kung mag explain ko sa evidence nya mangutana ko nimo ug question dili ka mutubag. Unsa man na? hehehe.


Lisod basta dili na katubag bisan asa na lang abot ang storya bisan walay labot. hahahaha.


Mo padayun ra ko ug explain nimo Sio_mai kung matubag na nimo akong mga pangutana. okay? So far nag hang pa ang akong pangutana.


Dodong adto sa Answersingenesis pagtoon didto, adto sa section nila nga "what creationist should not use in argument" di ba kita ka didto nga dili ipagamit ang word nga micro ug macro kay bisan sila wala silay sakto nga definition kung unsa ng macro, hahahaha. bisan sila galibog. Toink. Ado didto kay gikan ko didot last week, nag katawa lang ko nila.

[Tattva]

hahaha. an attempt to rationalize unproven theory. bwahaha.

yah, spontaneous generation! so asa gkan? sa bato? d a raman d i na! spontaneous generation and you say it is misinterpretation that life came from a none life such as a rock!

What a confused monk!


and there you go again! spontaneous generation not ruled out by science. So?, this is evidence? that it is true? kay not proven to be not possible? bwahahaha. such desperate moves by desperate people! Monk the burden of proof is always on the affirmative! why would i dieprove something that has not been proven in the first place. bwahahahahahaha. buking! Exposed!

huh buking exposed? dodong let the reader decide.

dodong dili na akong view. ako ra ng gi post diha kay di man ka katubag sa micro macro. so ari ta diri. But let me tell you nga i dont subscribe to this idea. What i am doing is akong suwayan imong kaalam diri.

Yes it is a misrepresentation when you used spotaneous generation in relation to biological evolution,gets nimo or basin imong utok pareha ka dako sa Sio_mai.

Proof lagi is for math dili sa science. hahay. Evidence naa pero proof adto ta sa math.

Spotaneous generation is still an evidence until science can come up with a better explanation or able to negate this theory.

Ani ni Mr.False Accuser...Science is not into speculation. kita sila nga life can jump from a dirt like the production of bacterias and organisms in water . Mao na ilang nakita...so diha nila gi based ilang theory. Dili sila puede mo ingun nga life came from God kay wala man sila kita ug ginoo. ilang nakita is an organism nga ni formed out from dirt. So from that observation they are formulating a scientific mechanism kung naunsa pag form sa life. Unlike sa mga creationsim bisan walay ma detect ug ma observe nga naay god modayun ug conclude nga LIFE came from God. hehehe.


Mao nay pasabot sa Scientific evidence Mr.Sio_mai.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

@Mr.Ho_chia


Cut the crap Mr.Sio_mai. Is this how the owner of Mr.Ho_chia behaves? tsk tsk. No wonder your Sio_mai reflects your personality.

If you were only here, see my face,its all bright. And again for the nth time i am not a monk. You see, here you are again saying saomething w/c i am not. I wonder what your God thinks about you. You better repent from your Sins Mr.False Accuser.

By the way buddhism permits agression when it is use to destroy a false view like what you are having.

"Behold if anyone is in christ he is a new creature?" I dont see that in you. Too bad, how can you change from glory to glory? your pride is taking you down, listen to the voice in you thats says. "let it go". I think im gonna visit one of your stalls this coming week. Lets see if it is what it claim to be as Ho_chia.

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Mix breeding? Were you asking a question or did you acknowledged that it is indeed evolution? Your sentence has a question mark right there.

Microsoft excel,word and powerpoint? Naa ni silay DNA? CONFUSE na pod ka? tsk tsk tsk. my advise to you was go to a site where evolution is being explain w/o any religious biases.

Wow a confuse creationist is telling me what evolution is and is not? Very Ironic.

Cite any definition from biological evolution that covers and explain the ultimate origin of life. Di ba wala kay makita. This is again asserting a false view about biological evolution. tsk tsk. FYI, Mr.Self-righteous Sio mai, Biological evolution do not deal with the ultimate origin of life because that belongs to RELIGION and evolution is not a religion.

Pssst imong argument Mr.Sio-mai ga balik balik na lang na. cge ka ug ingun walay evidence nya kung mag explain ko sa evidence nya mangutana ko nimo ug question dili ka mutubag. Unsa man na? hehehe.


Lisod basta dili na katubag bisan asa na lang abot ang storya bisan walay labot. hahahaha.


Mo padayun ra ko ug explain nimo Sio_mai kung matubag na nimo akong mga pangutana. okay? So far nag hang pa ang akong pangutana.


Dodong adto sa Answersingenesis pagtoon didto, adto sa section nila nga "what creationist should not use in argument" di ba kita ka didto nga dili ipagamit ang word nga micro ug macro kay bisan sila wala silay sakto nga definition kung unsa ng macro, hahahaha. bisan sila galibog. Toink. Ado didto kay gikan ko didot last week, nag katawa lang ko nila.

really? it's all bright? you see monk, it's all deception the face is not an evidence of a peaceful heart. you see that's the easiest way to mislead people a mask faced! again your reasoning is FLAWED! just like your evidence for evolution. I know your not a monk! your a monk...ey! bwahahahaha!

my behavior is reciprocal to the your person. you see character defines a person. aw, but again your evolution may not have been complete and therefore your character is expected to take a different curve Monk!

I would love to see you in my stalls monk! i will even serve you, for as long as you pay right. I am so calm to my customers except arrogant ones which i will surely refuse to serve. pakapinan patika siopao! bwahahaha!

a confession of a confused monk! what's that again? buddhism permits aggression? see that! so drop the masked face! that brightness you say is no radiance at all, its anger and hatred, a sign of confusion and of great desperation!

a meat eating evolutionist monk quoting scriptures. Bwahahaha! confused indeed. Make up your mind monk! well, satan quoted scriptures when he tried to tempt the LORD in the wilderness. so kinsa man yawa run? bwahahaha!

see how desperate you are! it was more of a suggested statement, just in case you get the hint. hehehe. mao wala btaw na cla DNA and microsoft word, excel ug powerpoint but kalimot ka monk nga your a proponent of a spontaneous generation?! bwahahahaha! kalimot! Alzheimer's Disease of a confused monk!

dili d i ka mo tuo evolution from no DNA to a single DNA organism? As I have said. Make up your confused mind!

Monk... ey! your biological evolution is not the basis of evolution theory! i see you have not evolve completely bwahahaha. and kung walay kay makita about the origin of life dodong monk... ey! it doesn't change what evolution is all about. so drop re-defining it to your terms and what your un-evolve limited mind can comprehend!

ang imong evidence kay dili evidence monk! don't impress people with scientific definition and suggestion of possiblities. kay dodong monk... ey, that is not evidence at all. you see who's going circular now?

why will I dignify your irrelevant question with an answer? you see your arguments are manipulative monk..ey!
stay on topic!

ayaw nalang padayun monk. kay we can see what your made of. and you are so lacking in every way what a real evolutionist is. your just a confused desperate monk! and that's understandable.

adto na ko kay buhat sa ko SIO.... mai ug SIO... pao! excited nako kanus-a ka adto sa ako stall. panimbre ha, arun makit-an nako imong bright masked face. BWahahahaha!

[Tattva]

really? it's all bright? you see monk, it's all deception the face is not an evidence of a peaceful heart. you see that's the easiest way to mislead people a mask faced! again your reasoning is FLAWED! just like your evidence for evolution. I know your not a monk! your a monk...ey! bwahahahaha!

my behavior is reciprocal to the your person. you see character defines a person. aw, but again your evolution may not have been complete and therefore your character is expected to take a different curve Monk!

I would love to see you in my stalls monk! i will even serve you, for as long as you pay right. I am so calm to my customers except arrogant ones which i will surely refuse to serve. pakapinan patika siopao! bwahahaha!

a confession of a confused monk! what's that again? buddhism permits aggression? see that! so drop the masked face! that brightness you say is no radiance at all, its anger and hatred, a sign of confusion and of great desperation!

a meat eating evolutionist monk quoting scriptures. Bwahahaha! confused indeed. Make up your mind monk! well, satan quoted scriptures when he tried to tempt the LORD in the wilderness. so kinsa man yawa run? bwahahaha!

see how desperate you are! it was more of a suggested statement, just in case you get the hint. hehehe. mao wala btaw na cla DNA and microsoft word, excel ug powerpoint but kalimot ka monk nga your a proponent of a spontaneous generation?! bwahahahaha! kalimot! Alzheimer's Disease of a confused monk!

dili d i ka mo tuo evolution from no DNA to a single DNA organism? As I have said. Make up your confused mind!

Monk... ey! your biological evolution is not the basis of evolution theory! i see you have not evolve completely bwahahaha. and kung walay kay makita about the origin of life dodong monk... ey! it doesn't change what evolution is all about. so drop re-defining it to your terms and what your un-evolve limited mind can comprehend!

ang imong evidence kay dili evidence monk! don't impress people with scientific definition and suggestion of possiblities. kay dodong monk... ey, that is not evidence at all. you see who's going circular now?

why will I dignify your irrelevant question with an answer? you see your arguments are manipulative monk..ey!
stay on topic!

ayaw nalang padayun monk. kay we can see what your made of. and you are so lacking in every way what a real evolutionist is. your just a confused desperate monk! and that's understandable.

adto na ko kay buhat sa ko SIO.... mai ug SIO... pao! excited nako kanus-a ka adto sa ako stall. panimbre ha, arun makit-an nako imong bright masked face. BWahahahaha!

okay...

I think i need to play the role of the "MATURE ONE" here.

your behavior is understandable.


provide anwers to my question.

sometimes its better to be kind than to be right.

whew this guy is something...hahahaha.


my questions are manipulative? hahahaha.

I am going to ask your tinderas and tinderos kunbg unsay batasan nimo.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

huh buking exposed? dodong let the reader decide.

dodong dili na akong view. ako ra ng gi post diha kay di man ka katubag sa micro macro. so ari ta diri. But let me tell you nga i dont subscribe to this idea. What i am doing is akong suwayan imong kaalam diri.

Yes it is a misrepresentation when you used spotaneous generation in relation to biological evolution,gets nimo or basin imong utok pareha ka dako sa Sio_mai.

Proof lagi is for math dili sa science. hahay. Evidence naa pero proof adto ta sa math.

Spotaneous generation is still an evidence until science can come up with a better explanation or able to negate this theory.

Ani ni Mr.False Accuser...Science is not into speculation. kita sila nga life can jump from a dirt like the production of bacterias and organisms in water . Mao na ilang nakita...so diha nila gi based ilang theory. Dili sila puede mo ingun nga life came from God kay wala man sila kita ug ginoo. ilang nakita is an organism nga ni formed out from dirt. So from that observation they are formulating a scientific mechanism kung naunsa pag form sa life. Unlike sa mga creationsim bisan walay ma detect ug ma observe nga naay god modayun ug conclude nga LIFE came from God. hehehe.


Mao nay pasabot sa Scientific evidence Mr.Sio_mai.

Psstttt... dododng monk, imo na gpost kay? see how confused you are! you can't even remember or understand your reasons. kaluoy!

a... you don't subscribe to it? YOu see monk...ey! eventually you can never progress with all your arguments kay you can't even explain your stand in the origin of life how much more the evolution of simplier life to a more complex one. See your confusion!

ako utok is not part of evolution oi, ug if ever ako utok pareha ka dako siomai, ang imo kay pareha sa bolinaw! hahaha. Bolinaw brain monk..ey! whatever proof evidence just prove it with your evidence bolinaw monk!

yah. and if i say that breath of life from GOD is the reason for our existence! before science can show a proven evidence of spontaneous generation to support evolution theory. how then can you disprove that?

and if I say that the evidence of brining forth their own kind is unfolding, day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute and second by second right before our very eyes and until you have the evidence that something else could have replace it then all you have are assumptions and speculations.

and these are all evidence now! in the present! and before we negate to theory, let's prove it first! or your bolinaw brain would say show the evidence first!

yah. eaxactly why the law of biogenesis came to be, kay before scientist see that from a dead meat, they observed life form generating, but it was proven later that it is not the dead meat producing life form but rather larvae deposited by flying insects.

got it monk?law of Biogenesis! which your evolution is trying to break with spontaneous generation! nga without evidence!

so dodong noy kung kita ka tae sa tao dha sa taas sa antena sa globe sa talamban. mo hunahuna pud ka nga spontaneous human feces generation in glode antena? unya maski wala ka kita naay tao ni katkat didto, you will never entertain an idea that a human being climb up there and release himself? but spontaneous human feces generation? pagka bolinaw gyud!

prove it! show evidence dodong!

Mao nay pasabot sa Scientific evidence Mr.Sio_mai. ---- dili na scientific evidence bolinaw monk..ey! it is what you call scientific theory!

manipulative ug confused! gi kutaw ang evidence ug theory. what can you expect from a bolinaw!

buhat sako siomai ako sagulan bolinaw utok para imo! bwahahaha

[Mr.Ho_chia]

okay...

I think i need to play the role of the "MATURE ONE" here.

your behavior is understandable.


provide anwers to my question.

sometimes its better to be kind than to be right.

whew this guy is something...hahahaha.


my questions are manipulative? hahahaha.

I am going to ask your tinderas and tinderos kunbg unsay batasan nimo.

Hahaha. and you say you are mature? asa dri? gigutom kalang monk. kaon sa.

I dont need to ask about you, because you have exposed yourself too much already.

[Sinyalan]

ho chia, I think you established that immature behavior before.

Ani na lang ho chia... believe what you believe and we believe what we believe... simple as that. Kai dili man ka maminaw ug rason mai pa continue what you think. Provided, ho chia you don't come knocking at our face that "god did it!". Because it is not observable or scientific study.