Is Evolutionist Science worth believing?

[Hellblazer]

like mutant ninja turtles and X men. Fascinating Indeed.............. Scientific proof? none


[br]Posted on: March 19, 2008, 11:52:33 AM_________________________________________________
pareha ra d i sa? so, we can no longer hide in the guise of scientific evidence, intellectual reasoning and other scientific names.

because really, what you have with evolution is nothing but a myth, a religion, a belief that is also based on Faith, nothing more.

i don't need to prove to you about anything.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

And you call that your reasons why you don't take evolution science as worth believing? I guess you need to read more pre. c'mon read more.... i dare you to read more.

but unless you can track it down in details your random genetic mutations that transformed apes to human by evolution. I will have to excuse myself and my clan from being associated with tree climbing chimps.

Oh. so you can perform magic is that what you are telling us? Because you were magically made by god, right? sige kuno beh, perform hocus-pocus thingy that you can make man out of dust. hehehehehe... oh btw, like you don't climb trees ho chia! hahahahaha...

you must be kidding me, your evolution is nothing but what your saying......... a fairy tale magic. You believe that men came from nothing but dirt! rocks! mud! transformed into a spongy soup and eventually became a single cell amoeba! until your ancestors became apes gorillas and monkeys and eventually you! you tell me if that's not fairy tale magic! Come on, wake up dood!

[Mr.Ho_chia]

it's only people like YOU who takes "theory of evolution" with a religious treatment....more reason why intellectuals would laugh at you or find you "funny" kinda way...or maybe its just me.haha

bitaw bro, if you know what "science" is...and "scientific method" as well...you wouldn't call ToE as such. religion, shucks...ano church of evolution?

just because you cant "scientifically" prove "mud-magic"...does not mean you can drag ToE to myth level/status.

tell you what, ToE is still in the works....yes it has GAPS for god to jump around. yipeee!
other than that, if you can provide a MUCH better alternative to ToE...meaning, it has to address things/stuff/topics ToE failed to address....offer something ToE failed to offer....i'm sure the science body would appreciate it.(its not like those geeks are closed and satisfied with ToE)

ToE is under tough scrutiny within scholarly science field...plus the creationist camp...plus some priests who acts like some science geek camp...plus the religious extremist camp...plus the media mongers camp...

don't tell me about science I know science and scientific methods. Your evolution is no science and you make me laugh that you really think your one of the intellectuals just because you go for evolution baloneys.

lets be sceintific about your evolution theory that's start with the big bang.

Big bang says that out of nothingness. meaning to say completely nothing...

no matter(anything that occupy space and has weight), no space in which matter will occupy and no time. that's the beginning state of nothingness.....

but oopppssss what does the big bang tells us? suddenly everything else, all the dirts converge in a single point ( no bigger than a period of any text book)... wait a minute out of nothingness suddenly something converge in a single point(dirts)? suddenly there was a space? suddenly there were matters that converge in a point? see the obvious flaws of that scientific theory of your evolution and to add insult to our intellectual injury that everything converge in an area of immense heat. my goodness out of nothingness there came heat? you insult common sense!

where did your matter (dirt) came from? where did the heat came from?

your evolution religion cannot stand the scrutiny of science and any scientific methods. because it is a religion, based on faith!

[Mr.Ho_chia]

i don't need to prove to you about anything.

you don't need to prove anything to me? because you can't prove it! so stop hiding in the name of science and scientific methods! clearly you don't understand it!

[Mr.Ho_chia]

@sinyalan

do you understand the law of biogenesis? that's scientific! read about it and fit it to your evolution! otherwise you scrap that law of science!

or you start thinking well!

what can you say about Ernst Haeckel?

[Sinyalan]

you must be kidding me, your evolution is nothing but what your saying......... a fairy tale magic. You believe that men came from nothing but dirt! rocks! mud! transformed into a spongy soup and eventually became a single cell amoeba! until your ancestors became apes gorillas and monkeys and eventually you! you tell me if that's not fairy tale magic! Come on, wake up dood!

oi, bali man ning istoryaha ho chia... ang evolution na hinoon ang fairy tale magic. You're totally inconsistent here pre.... nganong magical na man ang evolution nga niagi man ni scientific observation. Mas maayo pa ang scientific observation kompara sa imong creation nga pagkadakong FAIRY TALE! Motoo pa ko ug evolution pre kaysa imong ginoo nga mibuhat ug tawo with his magical powers. Basaha tong gisuwat ni tripwire ai kay aron ka makasabut ug unsa ang single cell. Magic? magikero diay ka ho chia? bangas ka!

[Sinyalan]

@sinyalan

do you understand the law of biogenesis? that's scientific! read about it and fit it to your evolution! otherwise you scrap that law of science!

or you start thinking well!

Read this ho chia... courtesy of miss tripwire.

Re: Is Evolutionist Science worth believing?
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2008, 20:40:57 »

About sa imong biogenesis.... tingali imong gi-merge ang law of biogenesis and creationism. Kay mao imong pagtoo nga ang term biogensis came from creation biology. hahahahahaha.... merging science and creation.... mao na ang mga tawo nga gusto lang i-prove nga scientific kunohay ang creationism. Can you explain properly ho chia what does it mean, Omne vivum ex vivo? in english trans as "all life [is] from [an] egg". Mao tingali nga most animal-producing-egg taste like chicken when you eat them. Explain kuno ho chia nganong mitoo man ka ug law of biogenesis?

[Mr.Ho_chia]

oi, bali man ning istoryaha ho chia... ang evolution na hinoon ang fairy tale magic. You're totally inconsistent here pre.... nganong magical na man ang evolution nga niagi man ni scientific observation. Mas maayo pa ang scientific observation kompara sa imong creation nga pagkadakong FAIRY TALE! Motoo pa ko ug evolution pre kaysa imong ginoo nga mibuhat ug tawo with his magical powers. Basaha tong gisuwat ni tripwire ai kay aron ka makasabut ug unsa ang single cell. Magic? magikero diay ka ho chia? bangas ka!

this is what your going to answer me? I just gave you a scientific impossibility about your evolution and you answer me with this?

and who told you that evolution is an empirical science? who ever had observed evolution and repeat it again? for goodness sake please answer me with science on the questions I asked.

How about Law of Biogenesis?
and ernst haeckel

[Mr.Ho_chia]

Here's what I think that evolution science is worth believing. From the start, science explains about a single cell organism. What happened after is the cell splits or divides in to two cells. This process is called mistosis. What makes it happened? Scientists aren't completely sure what triggers it. But they know that the process is directed by the nucleus. The nucleus contains threadlike structures called chromosomes, which are made up of complex chemical called DNA. DNA code has all the information that directs how cell functions, including when to divide.

Before mistosis begins, an exact copy of each chromosome is made, producing a pair. During mitosis, the identical chromosomes pf each pair separate, resulting in two cells that are indentical to the original chromosomes. The sets pull apart. Then the cell membrane pinches in the middle, forming two new cells. Each cell is just its parent cell. Have you ever skinned your elbow or knee? almost immediately, cells in the area started mitosis. New skin cells formed to replace the lost tissue. Soon the scrape disappeared, and you skin was smooth and complete again. The process is called regeneration.

In humans, regeneration is limited to healing wounds. But in some animals, regenration can replace entie body parts. For example, if a sea star loses an arm, nearby cells undergo rapid mitosis. Soon the the sea star has a new arm. You know that many organisms have only one cell. when the cell divides, the whole organism reproduces. This process is called asexual reproduction because there is no joining of cells from a different parents. For example, yeast is a single-celled fungus that reproduces when tiny bud forms on a parent cell. Mitosis takes place in the cell, and a copy of the chormosomes is passed into the growing bud. When the bud is fully grown, it breaks off and begins living on its own.

Fast forward, animals then humans appear. Multicellular organisms reproduce by joining of cells from two different individuals. Now science called that sexual reproduction. Cells from each parent join, forming a fertilized egg, or zygote. This starts the process of evolutionary stages for animals, humans and other living organisms. Take note that the process takes a very very very long time.

you mean this sinyalan? where's the direct explanation of how evolution occured? this is just scientific explanation of biological activities that occurs in organisms and other reproductive processes.

so where is the explanation that a rock, turned into a spongy soup and then into a single cell organism? spontaneous explosion? for your information Sinyalan don't be impress by that, look at the detailed process.

DOn't you know that a single cell organism have at least more than 500 DNA in double helix? and that the lowest number of DNA should be at least 358 for an organism to survive? now you tell me how can a rock with no DNA be transformed to an organism with only 1 DNA and goes up to multitudes of DNA in complex organisms?

How then can you explain that gene mutations in humans with cell mitosis and meiosis cause more harm than good. it result to cancer, gigantism, dwarfism, retardation or useless, having more than or less than the usual 10 fingers? etc. etc. etc.

mutating a single gene of an organism causes death, that's empirical science!

I guess you dont. you lack understanding of scientific methods that's why you have such big faith with your religion---- EVOLUTION!

[Mr.Ho_chia]

dodong sinyalan. the law of biogenesis (for your information) says that life begets life. not stone evolving into a life form. see how faith works in your religion which is evolution?

see how you failed to notice the flaws of your evolutionist religion! you embrace it without knowing that it is indeed a religion, a belief out of faith!

and by the way you still failed to answer my question about the big bang theory in a scientific way. where did matter came from? where did the the space came from? where did the heat came from? please answer that with scientific evidence! otherwise keep your religion to your self and not flaunt it as scientific facts!

You have such big FAITH in your magical fairy tale!