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    Lately, I've installed a new operating system in my pc and I was becoming more engrossed about the idea of having to install several partitions in the hard disks that I've installed recently. I was even having a problem about how to partition my 1-terabyte external SATA2 hard drive coz I've encountered several operating systems that does not recognize the NTFS format used by Windows. Operating systems such as the Linux based Fedora Core 4 does not even have the NTFS option in the partitioner that comes with the package. Instead of having to choose over a wide variety of formats, the Fedora Core creators seems to be having some defects with regards to how their brains were formed. To put it bluntly, they are trying to convince people to switch to Linux as it is an open source project and yet, they don't even provide enough room for the user to grasp the ideas of Linux. They don' t have enough supporting formats that suit a wide variety of systems, most of which are currently having a good steady place at the global market.


    Factors of the like have grown in number that several developers have established different open source projects that are currently having formats in a classic form, some of which have already included the recognition of file systems such as NTFS and FAT. In line with these are the fast spreading approach to different voluntary projects that have lately been contributing to the distribution of free and open source applications to support the development of the Linux kernels.


    Lately, there was a newly launched version of the Ubuntu Feisty Fawn, which was known to be the Gutsy Gibbon. I hope I am not confusing anyone whenever I refer to Ubuntu as "Feisty Fawn" or "Gutsy Gibbon" as they are of the same in nature. The only difference in them, though, is that Feisty Fawn is the scaled down version of Gutsy, which is the newest version. There are currently several operating systems that were immediately created after the Ubuntu god had been manifested. They come in the names of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. :mrgreen:


    As we all know, Ubuntu has a default gnome desktop. Well, actually, the Ubuntu *is* Gnome environment. This was the main reason why the Kubuntu, a successor of Kubuntu, was designed. There were a lot of questions raised by the public through several forums asking if they could be able to utilize a KDE environment in Ubuntu, which is relatively familiar to those who have used Linux cores before. Gnome was a newly designed desktop environment and so the users found it a bit difficult, especially for those who were planning to develop this tool.


    These were the circumstances that Ubuntu was facing and thats why a KDE Ubuntu was created. It was named Kubuntu. Edubuntu was a version that only transpired from ubuntu itself; it was designed for developer students. Xubuntu stands for Xbox window emulation in UBUNTU and as the name says, it is an open source operating system that followed Ubuntu as it was a more lightweight and therefore suitable for mobile gaming. I have all of these packages at home and currently I have installed three operating systems in my pc. My dilemma here is that the boot loader used by default in NetBIOS does not show all three operating systems in one time. Instead, it uses a bootloader called the Grub and asks me whether I would like to boot from Ubuntu Kernel, or 'other operating systems'. If I wanted to have the option to boot from either Windows XP or Amiga OS, I would have to choose the third option, which says 'halt'. It would then take about a minute to restart the system, then another minute to show the 'other operating systems that are installed in this computer' before I could get to select the appropriate OS I am going to use. I have asked this same topic in the other forum (which I could not say the name for safety purposes that I'm not going to be banned from this forum site) and no one's reply was really helpful. They were all running a windows based OS and thats why probably they'd never know anything about this issue. I just signed up in this forum lately and I was *hoping* someone here could resolve this issue. My computers so damn slow but I tried overclocking it using the tutorials found in the net. No luck. The booting issue still wasn't resolved.

    Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.

    Thank you.

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    I don't think you fully understand Ubuntu and it's many flavors.

    1. Feisty Fawn is not a "scaled-down" version of Gutsy Gibbon ... merely an older version.

    2. Gnome is not "unfamiliar" with people who have used Linux. Gnome has been around for years and people who have used Linux are very familiar with Gnome. In fact you can use both on one system which you can select through the display manager (kdm for KDE, gdm for Gnome). Hell, you can even use Xfce.

    3. Xubuntu does not stand for "Xbox window emulation". X stands for for Xfce, another window manager variant akin to KDE and Gnome. It has nothing to do with Xbox nor does it have anything to be "emulated". It all runs natively on Linux.

    4. These several operating systems you talk about are not several operating systems ... just different window managers and bundled apps they come with. You can easily have all of them on one system. For example, if you were running Ubuntu and wished to run Kubuntu, you simply would type "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" ... to install the necessary Kubuntu files.

    5. I do not understand what you were talking about in the first paragraph, but Fedora and every other Linux distro reads and writes to NTFS just fine using FUSE (Filesystem over Userspace) and ntfs-3g).

    6. Your last paragraph can be remedied with reading up on Grub and fdisk. That is out of the scope of this post.

    PS: Thread moved to proper forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosplay
    Lately, I've installed a new operating system in my pc and I was becoming more engrossed about the idea of having to install several partitions in the hard disks that I've installed recently. I was even having a problem about how to partition my 1-terabyte external SATA2 hard drive coz I've encountered several operating systems that does not recognize the NTFS format used by Windows. Operating systems such as the Linux based Fedora Core 4 does not even have the NTFS option in the partitioner that comes with the package. Instead of having to choose over a wide variety of formats, the Fedora Core creators seems to be having some defects with regards to how their brains were formed. To put it bluntly, they are trying to convince people to switch to Linux as it is an open source project and yet, they don't even provide enough room for the user to grasp the ideas of Linux. They don' t have enough supporting formats that suit a wide variety of systems, most of which are currently having a good steady place at the global market.
    I think Fedora Core 4 is already a legacy OS. The Fedora Core developers did not include NTFS in their partitioner because of the licensing issues regarding Redmond. I think they do not like to have a legal battle between MS.

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    Yeah. I was even quite puzzled with the many flavors that Linux had been known. As far as I know, these are the facts that I knew about Linux. Well, I didn't really mean to have it all jumbled up but I just somehow wrote up all I know about Linux. Thanks to the second reply, I was able to somewhat grasp Linux and its idea. From what I know, Linux was invented by a college student who didn't know of the existence of the BSD projects.

    If you can even provide me wtih clearer information and tips on this topic, please do so as I am willing to read and apply what you have in mind. I really appreciate your explanations.

    Thanks in advance.

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