MERGED: Ping LACSON

[omar50071]

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get this:

1.Â* you have his list of achievements from the media, a far-from-the-chaste-truth source while we have sources who rub shoulders with him.Â* these sources not having any personal interest at all.Â* why?Â* because they don't go telling the media to spread rumours and they don't want anything to do with dirty politics.Â* hence, we are not operating a rumour mill.Â* on the other hand, people who fully trust the media with everything that they say are on the same train as the opposition's rumour mill.

2.Â* you are dead serious and almost certain of his person while we comfortably sit knowing the real person that he is.Â* why?Â* go back to reason 1.

3.Â* the opposition has Sandra Cam, Gloriagate CD's, Samuel Ong, which you have the slightest clue of who these people are and what they really want.Â* since you do not know samuel ong personally, i think i would have more of the right to say what he really is.Â* but then again, you wouldn't believe me.

therefore, a list of lacson's achievements gathered from the media is less substantial compared to a list of lacson's real achievements gathered from first degree sources.

Here we go again...blah blah blah...
I believe the burden of truth is on the accuser...if you will just tell me nga nahadlok ka, then all you have is crap!

If you are a reasonable person, you dont just believe on garbage statements coming from someone hiding his personality here in istorya...cmon you can do better than that! ayaw mi himu-ang bata nga mo tuo unsay isulti sa uban.

[LytSlpr]

let's say lacson was never proven guilty, but the suspicions alone are more than enough reason not to consider him as a viable candidate. so why risk my vote and gamble our country's welfare?

in short despite his so called achievements, there are high factors of doubt not to mention a big question on his credibility which you can never remove from the intellectual voting public.

the analogy is that simple!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Â* The so called ACHIEVEMENTS of LACSON were mere nothing but the USUAL PA POGI points .He is also one man whose ambition is to become the nations leader someday . After becoming the leader of the country , pangutana is the CONSISTENCY of his achievents if ever man gani we consider it achievemtns are still there or he just want to achive something personally ?

Â* @ OMAR ..... you should direct that comment "If you are a reasonable person, you dont just believe on garbage statements coming from someone hiding his personality here in istorya or the OPPOSITION that is ...cmon you can do better than that! ayaw mi himu-ang bata nga mo tuo unsay isulti sa uban. " to our hardheaded friends here in iSTORYA who on the otherhand accusing PGMA also . ALl they have is nothing but what the MEDIA and the OPPOSITION said . Reciprocal ra noh ??

[omar50071]

how IRONIC, GMA cheated but Lacson didn't.Â* achievements? such as being stripped off an award?Â* of course Lacson will have awards. you know the modus.Â* i have to credit the guy for being so clean in his operations. of course he was under the president's good graces at that time. he was so powerful, influential and has no problem with money. it is true he does not have any conviction in court but his time will come. at least we are not forcing the issue. you know how our system works, if you have money and influence, then you can always be celebrity because pogi points can be bought in this country..

his achievements are not just plaques and medals, his achievements are felt by the people like na minimize ang kutong cop, kidnapping, carnapping, refused to accept jueteng payola and the porkbarrel fund, na disiplina ang mga pulis nga dagko ug tiyan...etc.

Mura ug hangin iya mga achievements nga dili nimo makita, pero imo ma feel...

now you are using his being a senator as an excuse.Â* Â*how about gringo honasan? the bastard with all his obvious faults to our country even became a senator.Â* doesn't that tell us that our system needs to be changed?Â* Â*there are even a lot of druglords in congress.Â* Â*we did not force the issue that GMA is guilty or not, the thing is they can't prove it.Â* Â*Lacson is DIRTY by rep**ation and eliminates ANYBODY who gets in his way whether you are a politician, a judge, a bigtime businessman or even a mediaman.Â* As of now that is hearsay but as I've said his day will come.

I am not using his being as a senator as an excuse bai, ako point is people voted for him as a senator thinking he is clean and has what it takes to be a good leader(usa na ko ana) kay ang mga kaso nga gi bato sa iyaha kay wala ma prove sa court, and the witnesses and evidences that pointed to him are incompetent...remember Ador Mawanay? Ayaw ko ingna relative mo?

during the time of ramos they can't do anything despite the PEA-AMARI, Fort Boni & the Expo Filipino scandals because he was a military man.Â* they did not do anything during the time of erap cause they were his cohorts. but they sure are making a lot of noise now, how funny.

During those times that you've mentioned, Ping is not yet a politician back then. He doesnt have the resources to make a noise...

[PissKhanXXX]

Here we go again...blah blah blah...
I believe the burden of truth is on the accuser...if you will just tell me nga nahadlok ka, then all you have is crap!

nahadlok is not the word. Â*i do not have to go out of my way for many have gone ahead of us. Â*yes, the burden of truth is on the accuser but you don't care whether or not the information you gather from the media is legitimate.

again, i have a first degree source which i trust while you have an nth source being known to be biased.

If you are a reasonable person, you dont just believe on garbage statements coming from someone hiding his personality here in istorya...cmon you can do better than that! ayaw mi himu-ang bata nga mo tuo unsay isulti sa uban.

what about your trusting the media so much? Â*i am not preaching to make you believe. Â*i am just saying what i really know, not what the biased media says. but then again, if i told you, you wouldn't believe me. i wouldn't even waste my time. in the end, witht the very legitimate info that i have about him, it will not be my loss for not having trusted in him.

[omar50071]

let's say lacson was never proven guilty, but the suspicions alone are more than enough reason not to consider him as a viable candidate. so why risk my vote and gamble our country's welfare?

in short despite his so called achievements, there are high factors of doubt not to mention a big question on his credibility which you can never remove from the intellectual voting public.

the analogy is that simple!

And I thought you know the game of Politics..sigh!

[omar50071]

what about your trusting the media so much?Â* i am not preaching to make you believe.Â* i am just saying what i really know, not what the biased media says. but then again, if i told you, you wouldn't believe me. i wouldn't even waste my time. in the end, witht the very legitimate info that i have about him, it will not be my loss for not having trusted in him.

FYI: I read and watch the news everyday, pero dili tanan news is my information...pero kato pag present ni Bunye sa tape, unsa man tawag ninyo ato...gi clone si Bunye?

It may not be your loss personally, pero its this country's loss, kay you allow criminals to roam around freely, and worst...made him senator!

[PissKhanXXX]

FYI: I read and watch the news everyday, pero dili tanan news is my information...pero kato pag present ni Bunye sa tape, unsa man tawag ninyo ato...gi clone si Bunye?

It may not be your loss personally, pero its this country's loss, kay you allow criminals to roam around freely, and worst...made him senator!

... and some even want him in the hot seat of presidency.

the truth is out there only to be supressed by lies. the country's loss is in the hands of those who continue to allow themselves to be misled by the media for they are the ones who put him to where he is now.

your posts reflect the fact that you have a high intake of daily media. i hope you could discern which truth to believe.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

That is my whole my point of the LACSON claims . i know a lot of people who can vouch for me . not just in forums but in real life but then .... who am I to make you believe me ? For my part I am not making it up ... for the part of others ... BLACK PROPAGANDA or unsa pa na siya daw . Just because I dont go to court and crying of who LACSON is doesnt justify the image he established for himself . He is still the CRIMINAL I know who is free roaming and can also make and submit laws . ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES !!

[omar50071]

the truth is out there only to be supressed by lies. the country's loss is in the hands of those who continue to allow themselves to be misled by the media for they are the ones who put him to where he is now.

What could be more misleading than believing to a mere chizmiz...

Unless you people could prove it in court, that would be a differrent story.