IMAGE and LIKENESS of GOD (genesis 1:26-27)

[rcruman]

---

Why is that the image and likeness of God does not even reflect to Ely Soriano? Where's the Righteousness of God?

doesn't even reflect? the righteousness of God is the Gospel or His words.
mao bitaw kung nituman ka sa iya words which is righteous then you've the likeness of God.

PEace!

[tripwire]

para nako cloning is a sin hehe ambot lang sad.... kay naa man gud own process ang Ginoo.

-- bitaw dapat i ban gyud ang cloning, otherwise decrease ang jer-jer.. hehe

Naa lang koy input ha... not that I am against with your beliefs but here's a scenario that which we should think about before we drastically say ban it. Now, I am in medical profession (a nurse - soon to be in doctorate degree - with God's grace), and we meet people in every aspect of their living life. The story goes like this - a boy has an unoperable brain tumor and his last wish is to live and grow older and have kids of his own. Now the parents heard his wish and weaped so hard that they have to hug their son because they cannot grant his wish. The boy knows that he's going to a place where kids can live happy. 2 hours after, the boy died. Now, the doctor heard the boy's wish because he was there beside the bed and saw the parents/family/brothers/sisters fell off as if the world had dropped on them because the boy is so full of life when he was alive. The doctor offered help. Not kind of compasionate help but a different kind of help. CLONJING. With cloning they can still see the boy's face not exactly the same but they can fulfill the wishes he once asked. Sure the there is moral issues concern but what the doctor couldn't do the boy who died but he can show his great help to the parents. Both parents and their family agreed the idea. Do we still need to ban cloning? Even if there is a great potential help for those people who are in deep need? My take, YES. I would and I would definitely love the boy the same as I have loved the first one.

In line to the thread: ... let us make man in our image... Cloning?
All is well, God bless.

[reve]

Naa lang koy input ha... not that I am against with your beliefs but here's a scenario that which we should think about before we drastically say ban it. Now, I am in medical profession (a nurse - soon to be in doctorate degree - with God's grace), and we meet people in every aspect of their living life. The story goes like this - a boy has an unoperable brain tumor and his last wish is to live and grow older and have kids of his own. Now the parents heard his wish and weaped so hard that they have to hug their son because they cannot grant his wish. The boy knows that he's going to a place where kids can live happy. 2 hours after, the boy died. Now, the doctor heard the boy's wish because he was there beside the bed and saw the parents/family/brothers/sisters fell off as if the world had dropped on them because the boy is so full of life when he was alive. The doctor offered help. Not kind of compasionate help but a different kind of help. CLONJING. With cloning they can still see the boy's face not exactly the same but they can fulfill the wishes he once asked. Sure the there is moral issues concern but what the doctor couldn't do the boy who died but he can show his great help to the parents. Both parents and their family agreed the idea. Do we still need to ban cloning? Even if there is a great potential help for those people who are in deep need? My take, YES. I would and I would definitely love the boy the same as I have loved the first one.

In line to the thread: ... let us make man in our image... Cloning?
All is well, God bless.

it's just acceptance... the cloned boy is different from the orig one

would you like to clone urself too if u hav wish that never came?

[tripwire]

OT: It's easy for us to say that "we have to accept..." but we never really put ourselves to the shoes of the person or persons or family involved. True, nga clones are different in sooo many ways but we also have to think that, clone is life too. they have the same limbs, nervouse system as we are. If I am to choose clone myself, yes because I have so many things that I have to do but that wouldn't be me. When my family raise the clone of myself and treat the same way as I am, then there is no big difference di ba?

[reve]

OT: It's easy for us to say that "we have to accept..." but we never really put ourselves to the shoes of the person or persons or family involved. True, nga clones are different but we also have to think that, it's life too. If I am to choose clone myself, yes because I have so many things that I have to do but that wouldn't be me but if my family raise the clone of myself and treat the same way as I am, then there is no big difference di ba?

OT: we all experience sad moments.Yes it's easier to say it but it's all we got. alll of us will return to dust. and not all wishes in this world are granted.

in my opinion, the difference is totally. if u were my girlfriend i would never clone you because i know that no one will ever be the same as you. the spirit of u is the real u not ur physical body. our spirit can never be cloned.

clone is artificial life, y clone wen there are lots of people wanting for the love and good treatment of ur parents?

daghan kaau ron mga street children nangitag ginikanan nga mu amping nila.

human cloning is great invention though.

[tripwire]

OT: we all experience sad moments.Yes it's easier to say it but it's all we got. alll of us will return to dust. and not all wishes in this world are granted.

Granted you chose to choose death instead of life. Yes, we are here in one purpose but that purpose includes new life may it be experimental or naturally made. Yes, we all experience moments and I see them everyday – it is really sad to see parents got all the hardships and went through a lot of things before they get to have kids. In just one instant, he/she is gone. You see how their faces look when their child is taken away from them? You can immediately say, “if I have only the power to grant your wish…”. I’m not saying I am against God’s plan but we have to see things other ways also. How do you make people happy or how do you want them to be happy with children by their side? It’s not that easy to say “accept” but how do you tell that the parents and have their faith intact? I’ve seen fathers punched walls and kicked beds and break windows while in the hospital – emotions that their child was taken in such a small time. But if you gave something an assurance to all their grief, would you still not give that to them?

In my opinion, the difference is totally. if u were my girlfriend i would never clone you because i know that no one will ever be the same as you. the spirit of u is the real u not ur physical body. our spirit can never be cloned.

True, there are differences and I admit that – as I have said, if parents treat the same attention to a cloned child, where is the difference now? If I were your girlfriend, I wouldn’t ask your permission to clone me. Right? If you were my husband there is possibility of having me cloned. Now, this is kind of misconception… do you think clones don’t have spirit? What is there to have a spirit when no one had seen it? Did you? way man tingali. I agree, each of us “have” spirit and if a person gets cloned, do you think he/she have no spirit? It’s not that spirit cannot be cloned but once life is created… do you think spirit will not be in that person?

clone is artificial life, y clone wen there are lots of people wanting for the love and good treatment of ur parents?

daghan kaau ron mga street children nangitag ginikanan nga mu amping nila.

No, clone is not artificial life… if you say artificial life… robots are artificial. But if clone has the same functions as humans, the same nervous system, limbs, heart, muscles, tendons… that’s not artificial but real life. True, there are too many street kids wanted to have home for their own but that’s not their “blood”. Adoption is good and honorable. Would you rather have a child that’s not yours or do you rather have a child that’s the same blood as you have?


human cloning is great invention though

To me, cloning is not invention I viewed cloning as a nonsexual reproduction. Cloning is an exact reproduction of genetic structure – includes hereditary traits contained in genes that is built in an existing organism (humans or animals).


Sorry folks I got carried away. Salamat Reve... now, let's go back to discussion.

[reve]

have learned from ur thoughts tripwire...thanks also

back to topic:

if God have company in Genesis then maybe it's one of us(scientists/doctors) that can create new life nonsexually but the timeline is the only difference...maybe the Bible foresee that cloning is possible in the future.

[evetyrone]

@ tripwire ... you're thoughts and views about this matter, has once again truly amazed me ma'am.

-- anyways, i'm honestly pro-cloning, and the only reason why it sounds a bit awkward, is the fact that it takes away the art of love-making (does that sound refined enough.. hehhehe)

[pinoy]

doesn't even reflect? the righteousness of God is the Gospel or His words.
mao bitaw kung nituman ka sa iya words which is righteous then you've the likeness of God.

PEace!

so meaning di jud mo reflect sa tawo ang righteousness of God?

[leo_trams]

biblically, no.
I don't believe that time will come nga ang tawo makahimo og something out of nothing.

wala man nahisulat sa Bibliya nga dili puede mag clone..
...time will come gyud! Nothing is impossible with God.

about your last statement, through WORD, GOD created man.
ang tao gikan sa alabok og ang alabok iya gihimo from nothing, just by WORD.
PEace!

abrakadabra!
magic?