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  1. #451

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?


    Quote Originally Posted by omar50071
    It would have not been black propaganda if it was fresh news, the problem is, it was old trash dug from the pit just to mislead some people here in the forum. Those allegations have already been answered and had already been buried long ago from the first page of this thread, now if you claim to be objective about Ping, then you should have also posted the other side of the coin.

    so u mean to say im propagating Black Propaganda here in istorya? PAG KLARO KNO DHA BAY!

    old news, past news, current news, the fact that it was not yet posted or cited in this thread, means a lot to istoryans here...if u r all-knowing man kha, just please don't show it here as garbage. wikipedia is a garbage and worse, a blk propaganda? pag shure oi...refute it if u want it piece by piece if TRUE or NOT...i was just posting info in good faith.

    if u will notice the thread title, "Some Info on Ping Lacson", well, that is exactly what i've been doing! if u personally dont wanna hear "some" bad old news about Ping, that's not my problem.

    if u say, i "should" post the other side of the coin? well, anybody can do that. ako ra diay? besides, anybody can just click "wikipedia" for that. and if u insist that i "should", ok way blema pre...luhod ko nimo...tymsa ha.

  2. #452

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Panfilo Morena Lacson (born June 1, 194 is a retired Director-General of the Philippine National Police, and is currently a member of the Philippine Senate.

    Early police career

    Lacson worked at the Metropolitan Command (Metrocom) Intelligence and Security Group (1971-1986), PC-INP Anti-Carnapping Task Force (1986-198, as Provincial Commander of the Province of Isabela (1988-1989), as Commander of Cebu Metrodiscom (1989-1992), and as Provincial Director of the Province of Laguna (February to July 1992). He was then appointed to the Presidential Anti-Crime Commission as Chief of the Task Force Habagat from 1992 to 1995).

    During the Estrada administration

    Lacson headed the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Task Force (PAOCTF) as Chief (July 1998-January 2001) as well as the Philippine National Police PNP Director-General, (November 1999-January 2001). During the second EDSA People Power Revolution, he declared his withdrawal of support to President Joseph Estrada. He submitted his resignation as Chief of the Police to President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo a day after she took her oath.

    Entry to politics

    Lacson ran for the position of senator in the 2001 elections running under the LDP and affiliated with the Puwersa ng Masa coalition. He won a seat in the Senate, ranking 10th.

    In the Senate, Lacson primarily authored the Anti-Money Laundering Control Act of 2001, the Alternative Youth Training Course, an optional program for college students, and the Anti-Human Trafficking Act of 2001.

    2004 Presidential election

    Lacson ran for President in the 2004 general election against the incumbent President, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. His candidacy stirred disagreements with its party president, Edgardo Angara. The COMELEC decided to follow what was done in the Quirino-Avelino case splitting the certificates of votes into half. Angara appealed the case before the Supreme Court and reversed the COMELEC decision.

    Lacson resigned from the party upon hearing the news. He continued campaigning and in the elections, he finished third, ahead of the late Raul Roco and Bro. Eddie Villanueva.

    Diamond statement

    Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) chief of staff General Hermogenes Esperon Jr. linked Senator Panfilo Lacson to the February 6, 2005 Coup d'état plot. Esperon said that the February 2006 "diamond statement" document seized from rebel soldiers mentioned Lacson and touched on "who would lead the country should the rebel soldiers succeed in toppling the government."

    source: wikipedia

    LACSON, PANFILO ASSETS & LIABILITIES: http://www.i-site.ph/Databases/Congr...acson-SAL.html

    ---ooo---

    @omar: happy now? "some" ra ni ha...

  3. #453

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    tinuod ni oi... klaro anang kabuang ni panfilo, remember aragoncillo spying in the US? mao bitaw ning gahimo siyag langas ron para mwagtang to iyaha kabuang....

  4. #454

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by omar50071
    Walay bag-o ani? Kaloouy pud tawn oi...recycled trash mani....
    Yeah so of it is an old issue kalimtan na diay? hehe taw-anan na read more below

    NBI TRACES LACSON’S $1-MILLION DEPOSIT IN US BANK. Opposition Sen. Panfilo Lacson allegedly deposited one million dollars (50 million pesos) in his account with a bank in the United States at the height of the impeachment trial of deposed President Joseph Estrada, a top official of the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) disclosed Thursday.

    The NBI official said Lacson personally withdrew the one million dollars from the Equitable PCIBank branch in Greenhills, San Juan sometime in October and November 2000. Should Lacson deny that he maintains dollar accounts in the United States, the NBI official said: "Then we will force Equitable PCIBank to produce these bank transactions." Asked about the implications of the disclosure, the official said: "Well, (it could be a ground) for the filing of a plunder case. It’s a million dollars . . . fifty million pesos."

    The NBI official made the disclosure after Justice Secretary Hernando Perez refused Thursday to divulge the contents of a report sent by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the US Department of Justice. The FBI report confirms that Lacson maintains three to four bank accounts in the United States. The two-inch thick report consisted of bank transactions, facsimiles of bank records and checks.

    Perez said at a press conference that he could not comment on the report pending an examination to be conducted by a panel of investigators from the NBI Legal Division and the Anti-Fraud Division, and experts from private banks. Pressed for details, NBI Director Reynaldo Wycoco, who was present at the press conference, told reporters that the report confirmed the existence of three to four accounts. Without going into details, Wycoco said the three to four accounts were worth more than 700,000 dollars (35 million pesos). He dared Lacson to fulfill his promise to go "directly to jail" if investigators found any account abroad containing a large amount.

    Of the accounts, at least one is still active. It is registered under the name of Lacson’s wife Alice. One was worth 246,000 dollars (12.3 million pesos). The other two checks were worth 50,000 dollars (2.5 million pesos) and 5,000 dollars (250,000 pesos), respectively. The NBI chief said the Lacson couple used a conduit bank in Hong Kong – Hong Kong Shanghai Bank – to transact with Bank of America. Asked if the other accounts belonged to Lacson himself, he said: "Maybe. But we have yet to examine the bank records provided by the FBI. Please give us time to evaluate them."

    As expected, Lacson dismissed as propaganda from his detractors the reported confirmation of his dollar accounts by the FBI. He said the alleged FBI report on his dollar accounts was "true and not true." It was true that he had three or four accounts in the United States, according to Lacson. But these accounts were no longer active, he said. Lacson questioned why Wycoco did not produce the alleged FBI report but merely released the video footage. "Where is the report?" he asked.

    Wycoco said the NBI would submit its findings to the Senate committees on public order and illegal drugs and on national defense, and the blue ribbon committee. Wycoco belied Lacson’s claim that the DOJ’s move to prosecute him for money laundering was a form of political persecution. He said that as early as April 18 last year, the FBI came up with an initial report confirming the existence of two Lacson accounts with Wells Fargo and Bank of America in California.


  5. #455

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    so u mean to say im propagating Black Propaganda here in istorya? PAG KLARO KNO DHA BAY!
    In this case YES! Since your fond of Wikipedia here's its meaning

    Black propaganda
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Jump to: navigation, search

    Black propaganda is false material where the source is disguised. It is propaganda that purports to be from a source on one side of a conflict, but is actually from the opposing side. It is typically used to vilify, embarrass or misrepresent the enemy.

    It contrasts with grey propaganda, the source of which is not identified, and white propaganda, in which the real source is declared. The term is also sometimes used as a synonym for particularly malicious wartime propaganda or falsification of information that is captured by an enemy.

    Black propaganda may also be used on one's own side, generated by altering genuine enemy propaganda in such a way as to distort its message. This is a particularly powerful tool if the target audience has a poor understanding of the language of the enemy, and is often used to insult the intended recipients, leading to a rallying effect.


    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    old news, past news, current news, the fact that it was not yet posted or cited in this thread, means a lot to istoryans here...if u r all-knowing man kha, just please don't show it here as garbage. wikipedia is a garbage and worse, a blk propaganda? c'mon...refute it if u want it piece by piece if TRUE or NOT...i was just posting info in good faith.
    It doesnt matter if it was posted here before or not, the fact that these stories you came accross with had already been answered with but you intentionally or unintentionally skipped it.

    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    if u will notice the thread title, "Some Info on Ping Lacson", that is exactly what i've been doing!

    if u say, i "should" post the other side of the coin? well, anybody can do that. ako ra diay? besides, anybody can just click "wikipedia" for that. and if u insist that i "should", ok way blema pre...tymsa ha.
    I am asking you to be objective enough to post the other side of the coin, para walay biased bha.....and besides, some of your copy paste article had already been answered long ago from the begining of this thread, diara ang wala nimo ma basa ay....http://www.pinglacson.com.ph/lies_facts_truth.pdf

  6. #456

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rance
    Yeah so of it is an old issue kalimtan na diay? hehe taw-anan na read more below

    NBI TRACES LACSON’S $1-MILLION DEPOSIT IN US BANK. Opposition Sen. Panfilo Lacson allegedly deposited one million dollars (50 million pesos) in his account with a bank in the United States at the height of the impeachment trial of deposed President Joseph Estrada, a top official of the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) disclosed Thursday.

    The NBI official said Lacson personally withdrew the one million dollars from the Equitable PCIBank branch in Greenhills, San Juan sometime in October and November 2000. Should Lacson deny that he maintains dollar accounts in the United States, the NBI official said: "Then we will force Equitable PCIBank to produce these bank transactions." Asked about the implications of the disclosure, the official said: "Well, (it could be a ground) for the filing of a plunder case. It’s a million dollars . . . fifty million pesos."

    The NBI official made the disclosure after Justice Secretary Hernando Perez refused Thursday to divulge the contents of a report sent by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the US Department of Justice. The FBI report confirms that Lacson maintains three to four bank accounts in the United States. The two-inch thick report consisted of bank transactions, facsimiles of bank records and checks.

    Perez said at a press conference that he could not comment on the report pending an examination to be conducted by a panel of investigators from the NBI Legal Division and the Anti-Fraud Division, and experts from private banks. Pressed for details, NBI Director Reynaldo Wycoco, who was present at the press conference, told reporters that the report confirmed the existence of three to four accounts. Without going into details, Wycoco said the three to four accounts were worth more than 700,000 dollars (35 million pesos). He dared Lacson to fulfill his promise to go "directly to jail" if investigators found any account abroad containing a large amount.

    Of the accounts, at least one is still active. It is registered under the name of Lacson’s wife Alice. One was worth 246,000 dollars (12.3 million pesos). The other two checks were worth 50,000 dollars (2.5 million pesos) and 5,000 dollars (250,000 pesos), respectively. The NBI chief said the Lacson couple used a conduit bank in Hong Kong – Hong Kong Shanghai Bank – to transact with Bank of America. Asked if the other accounts belonged to Lacson himself, he said: "Maybe. But we have yet to examine the bank records provided by the FBI. Please give us time to evaluate them."

    As expected, Lacson dismissed as propaganda from his detractors the reported confirmation of his dollar accounts by the FBI. He said the alleged FBI report on his dollar accounts was "true and not true." It was true that he had three or four accounts in the United States, according to Lacson. But these accounts were no longer active, he said. Lacson questioned why Wycoco did not produce the alleged FBI report but merely released the video footage. "Where is the report?" he asked.

    Wycoco said the NBI would submit its findings to the Senate committees on public order and illegal drugs and on national defense, and the blue ribbon committee. Wycoco belied Lacson’s claim that the DOJ’s move to prosecute him for money laundering was a form of political persecution. He said that as early as April 18 last year, the FBI came up with an initial report confirming the existence of two Lacson accounts with Wells Fargo and Bank of America in California.

    Wise people talk about ideas. Shallow people talk about personalities.

  7. #457

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Lets change the name of the topic to Ping Lacson Bashing thread. This topic is full of crap posted by very desperate people.

  8. #458

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rance
    Yeah so of it is an old issue kalimtan na diay? hehe taw-anan na read more below

    NBI TRACES LACSON’S $1-MILLION DEPOSIT IN US BANK. Opposition Sen. Panfilo Lacson allegedly deposited one million dollars (50 million pesos) in his account with a bank in the United States at the height of the impeachment trial of deposed President Joseph Estrada, a top official of the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) disclosed Thursday.

    The NBI official said Lacson personally withdrew the one million dollars from the Equitable PCIBank branch in Greenhills, San Juan sometime in October and November 2000. Should Lacson deny that he maintains dollar accounts in the United States, the NBI official said: "Then we will force Equitable PCIBank to produce these bank transactions." Asked about the implications of the disclosure, the official said: "Well, (it could be a ground) for the filing of a plunder case. It’s a million dollars . . . fifty million pesos."

    The NBI official made the disclosure after Justice Secretary Hernando Perez refused Thursday to divulge the contents of a report sent by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the US Department of Justice. The FBI report confirms that Lacson maintains three to four bank accounts in the United States. The two-inch thick report consisted of bank transactions, facsimiles of bank records and checks.

    Perez said at a press conference that he could not comment on the report pending an examination to be conducted by a panel of investigators from the NBI Legal Division and the Anti-Fraud Division, and experts from private banks. Pressed for details, NBI Director Reynaldo Wycoco, who was present at the press conference, told reporters that the report confirmed the existence of three to four accounts. Without going into details, Wycoco said the three to four accounts were worth more than 700,000 dollars (35 million pesos). He dared Lacson to fulfill his promise to go "directly to jail" if investigators found any account abroad containing a large amount.

    Of the accounts, at least one is still active. It is registered under the name of Lacson’s wife Alice. One was worth 246,000 dollars (12.3 million pesos). The other two checks were worth 50,000 dollars (2.5 million pesos) and 5,000 dollars (250,000 pesos), respectively. The NBI chief said the Lacson couple used a conduit bank in Hong Kong – Hong Kong Shanghai Bank – to transact with Bank of America. Asked if the other accounts belonged to Lacson himself, he said: "Maybe. But we have yet to examine the bank records provided by the FBI. Please give us time to evaluate them."

    As expected, Lacson dismissed as propaganda from his detractors the reported confirmation of his dollar accounts by the FBI. He said the alleged FBI report on his dollar accounts was "true and not true." It was true that he had three or four accounts in the United States, according to Lacson. But these accounts were no longer active, he said. Lacson questioned why Wycoco did not produce the alleged FBI report but merely released the video footage. "Where is the report?" he asked.

    Wycoco said the NBI would submit its findings to the Senate committees on public order and illegal drugs and on national defense, and the blue ribbon committee. Wycoco belied Lacson’s claim that the DOJ’s move to prosecute him for money laundering was a form of political persecution. He said that as early as April 18 last year, the FBI came up with an initial report confirming the existence of two Lacson accounts with Wells Fargo and Bank of America in California.
    Asa ning menteryoha nimo gi kobkob....gi uli na nimo ang pala na imong gi gamit sa pag kobkob....

    What happened to the investigation Rance? Diha ra ka kutob?

    Wycoco died in vain intawn...kalooy sa iro.

  9. #459

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by omar50071
    In this case YES! Since your fond of Wikipedia here's its meaning

    Black propaganda
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Jump to: navigation, search

    Black propaganda is false material where the source is disguised. It is propaganda that purports to be from a source on one side of a conflict, but is actually from the opposing side. It is typically used to vilify, embarrass or misrepresent the enemy.

    It contrasts with grey propaganda, the source of which is not identified, and white propaganda, in which the real source is declared. The term is also sometimes used as a synonym for particularly malicious wartime propaganda or falsification of information that is captured by an enemy.

    Black propaganda may also be used on one's own side, generated by altering genuine enemy propaganda in such a way as to distort its message. This is a particularly powerful tool if the target audience has a poor understanding of the language of the enemy, and is often used to insult the intended recipients, leading to a rallying effect.

    It doesnt matter if it was posted here before or not, the fact that these stories you came accross with had already been answered with but you intentionally or unintentionally skipped it.
    I am asking you to be objective enough to post the other side of the coin, para walay biased bha.....and besides, some of your copy paste article had already been answered long ago from the begining of this thread, diara ang wala nimo ma basa ay....http://www.pinglacson.com.ph/lies_facts_truth.pdf
    ay bahala ka bro kng unsay tawag nimo ana. u can even call it "evil"...u assume too much. that happens when u take sides too much to the point of "IDOLIZING" and making it a "HERO-MAKING" pastime...

    u can complain to our mods here if u want to. but i stick to what i know. u r wise to cite Ping's website...WOW! how "unbiased" noh.

  10. #460

    Default Re: Some info on Ping Lacson, True or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    ay bahala ka bro kng unsay tawag nimo ana. u can even call it "evil"...

    u can complain to our mods here if u want to. but i stick to what i know. u r wise to cite Ping's website...WOW! how "unbiased" noh.
    I aint complaining....who says I am?

    Who else would answer all those allegations.....among iro?

    If you should have been wise enough....you should have been asking for a concrete action from the accusers. "Walk the Talk" ba...but instead what you did is post them anyway....bisag bahaw na kaayo....ang bahaw imo lang gi fried rice aron mahalin pa....hahahaha

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