should AMD merge with another company?

[AMD_infinium05]

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thats possible as they're going to merge technologies

[fish]

pero luoy kaayo ang mga consumers...

[ajol]

samsung + nvidia

[EarlZ]

AMD and ATI are already merged right? and AMD is still planning to merge with nVidia and IBM?

I would prefer AMD to merge with IBM for a serious competition on Intel's doorstep!
Right now IBM already has a working 32nm tech, while intel is still perfecting it.

ATI is doing great to keep up with Nvidia counterpart, ATI has Done a Nice job with those new driver releases and fixes that actually results in improved performance for ATIs part.

I agree, ATI always released crap drivers and takes them more than 8 months to put their card on the actual expected performance level, nvidia on the other hand releases initial drivers relatively close in performance to its optimized drivers ( w/c is a very good thing compared to ATI )

I dunno with AMD procs though. With the phenom's humongous die size which 65nm quad core which left no room for Cache.

AMD's micro architecture is not cache dependent, as seen and provden during the A64 era with the onboard memory controller.

Hopefully AMD will release their 45nm on time

It is not AMD that has to release a 45nm but its chip manufacturer TSMC, AMD only hands them the white papers on how to manufacture the said processors so they are at the mercy of what ever TSMC has to offer, Intel on the other hand has an inhouse fab and research built for it.

and their B3 Phenoms which supposedly has improved higher clocks.

The B3 fixes the TBL bug w/c is found on higher clocked chips, but it does not improve overclocking dramatically.

[fish]

perfect partner gyud ang IBM for AMD...

[Chipmunk888]

yup, wala nay kalibgan... but then pirti na pud kamahal ang mga parts...

dont worry.


sony has SUNNY before...


and nokia has NOKLA.


intel might have INUTEL too someday. who knows...

[brown_dog]

I agree, ATI always released crap drivers and takes them more than 8 months to put their card on the actual expected performance level, nvidia on the other hand releases initial drivers relatively close in performance to its optimized drivers ( w/c is a very good thing compared to ATI )

Well its a good thing. Its similar to any hardware revisions. Well Nvidia does release drivers but not as frequent as ATI with an increasing amount of performance gains every release. Its a good thing though. I love a company that keeps on improving their product. ATI may not fully develop their drivers but certianly they are producing good driver revisions to counter.

AMD's micro architecture is not cache dependent, as seen and provden during the A64 era with the onboard memory controller.

AMD's A64 does have a cache. onboard memory controller is different from L1 or L2 cache, thats why an A64 doesn't have a need for additional chipsets since it has a memory controller built in. but then a L2 Cache is way more faster than a built in memory controller. A64s memory controller controlls the RAM by which completely elimanating the FSB system which the CPU communicates with the RAM. The only improvement of the memory controller is the cpu to memory bandwidth. As evident in core 2 cpus which has a bigger cache it will really not do much improvement of the processor if you do have smaller L2 cache. a memory controller does improve the system but not as much as a larger cache does. As evident in core2 and intel quads.
I think L2 is synchronious with the CPU speed. L2 cache is stil considered a memory. Simply compare these: more of a faster memory(more L2 cache) to more slower memory(RAM controlled by memory controller).
The key here is to combine more L2 cache and the memory controller. which of course you need a smaller die size to fit everything in. I think its what Intel is planning for Nehalem.

I think caches do really improve the performance in gaming but I don't know if it does the same with server types of task or media encoding.
And to inform you die size does affect how much cache or memory controller you can put in the whole processor system.

It is not AMD that has to release a 45nm but its chip manufacturer TSMC, AMD only hands them the white papers on how to manufacture the said processors so they are at the mercy of what ever TSMC has to offer, Intel on the other hand has an inhouse fab and research built for it.

yes 45nm hopefully we will find at least bigger caches for the next AMD processors since they have much headroom already.
I believe intel has an inhouse research and fab but their processors are still made in the Philippines. Hehehe.
AMD has better location for their FAB and its in Malaysia.

[Visual C#]

IBM is the most logical choice, if AMD decided to merge or be acquired by another company.

However, IBM has been moving away from hardware, and has been focused on the software/services sector in the past few years. Remember, they've already sold their hard disk division (Deskstar) to Hitachi, and their PC business to Lenovo. I'm doubtful if IBM would agree to this, though IBM still manufactures/designs all of the processors of the current generation consoles (Xbox 360, Wii, PS3).

[dmelsie]

we all know that amd comes from intel i even seen a proc mark amd/intel back in the old cpu days......
so dili na ma confuse if ma merge balik na sila...... pero i hope so nga dili na mag merge ng mga inatay......
bentaha if ibm/amd pero nvidia amd intel saon nlng