Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

[dartzed]

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By then, there are how many God taught by the prophets and the apostles?

there will be always one true God and Father... so that means naa sad God nga Son ug naa sad God the Holy Ghost...

but one true God ky asa man gikan ang anak?..
ug asa man gikan ang Holy Ghost?..
dba sa amahan man?..

mao the bible said "there is only one true God" then followed by "and Father"

so pasabot the Son can never be the Father nor is the Holy Gost... for they are different in characteristic but came from one true God and that is the Father...

there ako na nasulti tanan... hehehe and if you want verses ok rasad but d ko kapangita sa verse ky d man ko maau anang memorization so i can only give what the bible has saith...

[yorts]

dli nani angay lalisan kay natubag na sa 1st page pa lang daan.

[dartzed]

natubag nani bro sa lain ra nga thread dugay ra ako lang gibalik ang linya...

[BaDBoY]

unsa man gikasulti sa nag start ani nga thread? mura man ug ning bahag ang iyang ikug ug wala na mag tingug2... as expected...

[Techfinder]

there will be always one true God and Father... so that means naa sad God nga Son ug naa sad God the Holy Ghost...

but one true God ky asa man gikan ang anak?..
ug asa man gikan ang Holy Ghost?..
dba sa amahan man?..

mao the bible said "there is only one true God" then followed by "and Father"

so pasabot the Son can never be the Father nor is the Holy Gost... for they are different in characteristic but came from one true God and that is the Father...

there ako na nasulti tanan... hehehe and if you want verses ok rasad but d ko kapangita sa verse ky d man ko maau anang memorization so i can only give what the bible has saith...

there will be always one true God and Father... so that means naa sad God nga Son ug naa sad God the Holy Ghost...

but one true God ky asa man gikan ang anak?..
ug asa man gikan ang Holy Ghost?..
dba sa amahan man?..

mao the bible said "there is only one true God" then followed by "and Father"

so pasabot the Son can never be the Father nor is the Holy Gost... for they are different in characteristic but came from one true God and that is the Father...

there ako na nasulti tanan... hehehe and if you want verses ok rasad but d ko kapangita sa verse ky d man ko maau anang memorization so i can only give what the bible has saith...

God is not comparable to humans.Yes, We do have Fathers, GrandFathers, Grandmother, but God don't have. There is only one God according to scriptures and to believe a three person God, is tantamount to saying "I believe in three Gods, which is not the central theme of Biblical Christianiy.

If the Spirit proceeds from the Father, is the Spirit also a son of the Father? If not, why not?

If the Spirit proceeds from the Son, is the Spirit the grandson of the Father? If not, why not?


tEXT VERSES:

"There is none other God but one" (I Corinthians 8:4).

"But to us there is but one God, the Father" (I Corinthians 8:6).

"But God is one" (Galatians 3:20).

"One God and Father of all" (Ephesians 4:6).

"For there is one God" (I Timothy 2:5).

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble" (James 2:19).

Again, the Bible calls God the Holy One (I John 2:20). There is one throne in heaven and One sits upon it (Revelation 4:2).



Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35). Which one is the true father?

[Techfinder]

"Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour" (Isaiah 43:10-11).

"I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God" (Isaiah 44:6)

"Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any" (Isaiah 44:8 )

"I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself" (Isaiah 44:24 )

"There is none beside me. I am the LORD and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:6 )

"There is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:21-22 )

"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me" (Isaiah 46:9).

"I will not give my glory unto another" (Isaiah 48:11; see also Isaiah 42:

"O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth" (Isaiah 37:16).

CONCLUSION:
There is only one God, who is the Creator and Father of mankind (Malachi 2:10). In the time of the Millennial Reign, there shall be only one LORD with one name (Zechariah 14:9).--that's JESUS CHRIST

In short, the Old Testament speaks of God in terms of being one. Many times the Bible calls God the Holy One (Psalm 71:22; 78:41; Isaiah 1:4; 5:19; 5:24), but never the "holy two, the holy three," or the "holy many."

[dartzed]

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God is not comparable to humans.Yes, We do have Fathers, GrandFathers, Grandmother, but God don't have. There is only one God according to scriptures and to believe a three person God, is tantamount to saying "I believe in three Gods, which is not the central theme of Biblical Christianiy.

mao bah bro? then for that you mean na walay Ginuo nagpakamatay para sa ato mga sala?..
if Jesus was not God then who is He to you?... YUP there will be only one God but dia ra ang kulang bro ai "and Father"... One true God for only the Father is the creator ug asa man gikan ang anak ug ang espiritu santo?..

you dont understand unsa ang gipasabot sa RC cguro bro mao nakasulti ka ana... b4 ka musulti ana try to justify your plea to the RC una..

If the Spirit proceeds from the Father, is the Spirit also a son of the Father? If not, why not?

If the Spirit proceeds from the Son, is the Spirit the grandson of the Father? If not, why not?


tEXT VERSES:

"There is none other God but one" (I Corinthians 8:4).

"But to us there is but one God, the Father" (I Corinthians 8:6).

"But God is one" (Galatians 3:20).

"One God and Father of all" (Ephesians 4:6).

"For there is one God" (I Timothy 2:5).

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble" (James 2:19).

Again, the Bible calls God the Holy One (I John 2:20). There is one throne in heaven and One sits upon it (Revelation 4:2).

and so as the bible spoke of one TRUE God ang FATHER... natural kinsa man dai angayan mulingkod sa trono sa hari bro?.. ang prince ba dai?...

Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35). Which one is the true father?

mao gani one God and Father toinks..

[Techfinder]

mao bah bro? then for that you mean na walay Ginuo nagpakamatay para sa ato mga sala?..
if Jesus was not God then who is He to you?... YUP there will be only one God but dia ra ang kulang bro ai "and Father"... One true God for only the Father is the creator ug asa man gikan ang anak ug ang espiritu santo?..

You don’t get what I mean Bro. Diba nag-ingon ka sa akoa na “asa man gikan ang anak?..ug asa man gikan ang Holy Ghost?..dba sa amahan man?..” so gitubag taka nga dli parehas sa tawo ang Dios nga adunay Mga ginikanan. Please remember God is the Alpha and Omega. Siya ang sinugdan ug Katapusan. Dli nato tinawhanon pagsabot ang pagkadios.

I did not say “Jesus is not God”.
I don’t object to the Deity of Jesus nor his humanity.

I firmly believed Jesus is both Divine(God the Father) and Human(Son).
I firmly believed Jesus is the only one True God manifested in the form of flesh. He was the Father in the Old Testament, the Son in Redemption and the Holy Spirit in emanation.

Isa lamang ang Dios brad, mao bitaw nag-ingon siya sa Book of Isaiah, “wala nay lain gawas kanako”.

you dont understand unsa ang gipasabot sa RC cguro bro mao nakasulti ka ana... b4 ka musulti ana try to justify your plea to the RC una..

I’ve been to thorough study about different Church doctrines when I was in high school and found out these churches(Trinitarian churches including RCC) are following the precepts and Philosophy of men and not of God.

and so as the bible spoke of one TRUE God ang FATHER...

If there is only one True God (several verses)
And that God is the Father (Malachi 2:10; John 17:3),
And if Jesus is God (I john 5:20),
Then it logically follows that JESUS is the FATHER.

Colossians 2:9 proclaims that all the fulness of the Godhead dwells in Jesus. The Godhead includes the role of Father, so the Father must dwell in Jesus

natural kinsa man dai angayan mulingkod sa trono sa hari bro?.. ang prince ba dai?...

Kung basahon nimo ang book of Revelations isa lang ang Trono didto, ug ang Dios nga Makagagahum mao ang naglingkod. Dli tulo ang Trono sa langit, mao nga dli gyud tinood nga adunay tula ka personahe ang Dios.Isa lang ang trono, kana mao ang Trono ni Hesu Kristo.

[dartzed]

You don’t get what I mean Bro. Diba nag-ingon ka sa akoa na “asa man gikan ang anak?..ug asa man gikan ang Holy Ghost?..dba sa amahan man?..” so gitubag taka nga dli parehas sa tawo ang Dios nga adunay Mga ginikanan. Please remember God is the Alpha and Omega. Siya ang sinugdan ug Katapusan. Dli nato tinawhanon pagsabot ang pagkadios.

I did not say “Jesus is not God”.
I don’t object to the Deity of Jesus nor his humanity.

I firmly believed Jesus is both Divine(God the Father) and Human(Son). 
I firmly believed Jesus is the only one True God manifested in the form of flesh. He was the Father in the Old Testament, the Son in Redemption and the Holy Spirit in emanation.

Isa lamang ang Dios brad, mao bitaw nag-ingon siya sa Book of Isaiah, “wala nay lain gawas kanako”.

OK i get what you mean the Father = Jesus = Holy Ghost kay isa rman kaha cla ug unsa pana imo gipangsulti.. basta para sa imo usa ang God that is.. well para sa ako isa rasad but 3 persona ako point..

then pangitaa ang verse kung diin c jesus ug ang apostoles naa sa mountain ba 2 nya kad2ng na change iya image into 3 persons... there was this voice from heavens dha na part na niingon "kini ang akong pinalanggang anak" ug naa pa sumpay......bla... bla... bla...

kung usa ra cla why does the Father say those words?.. muana nlang ta cya I am jesus your God dba?.. y niana paman cya "kini ang akong pinalanggang anak"??... and you said about 3rd person of view man dba isulti usahay sah, so kana na part 1st person man iya gamit so pasabot nagtan.aw cya sa iya anak...

I’ve been to thorough study about different Church doctrines when I was in high school and found out these churches(Trinitarian churches including RCC) are following the precepts and Philosophy of men and not of God.

ok kaw gud.. well for me i found out all the churches are not the truth... hehehe bet ya..

Kung basahon nimo ang book of Revelations isa lang ang Trono didto, ug ang Dios nga Makagagahum mao ang naglingkod. Dli tulo ang Trono sa langit, mao nga dli gyud tinood nga adunay tula ka personahe ang Dios.Isa lang ang trono, kana mao ang Trono ni Hesu Kristo.

mao gani ako point isa ta ang mulingkod kana mao ang amahan.. deli ang anak or ang Holy Spirit...

[dulpeks]

OK i get what you mean the Father = Jesus = Holy Ghost kay isa rman kaha cla ug unsa pana imo gipangsulti.. basta para sa imo usa ang God that is.. well para sa ako isa rasad but 3 persona ako point..

nindot na kaau inyo discussion da....@dartzed: pareha sad ta og view...3 persona ang a2 GOD...3 persona, 3sides...Holy Trinity...pero usa ra jud jpn...sa??sak2 man sad si techfinder...grbe lang ka nindot mag cge ta og discuss bwt ani kay along the way naay sa a2 maka feel sa presence sa Holy Spirit...mao nang ang a2 mga explanations sad nagka-unod sad jud.....nindot jud kaau si GOD oi!!....