FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[pijavier]

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I agree with your last paragraph bro Springy.

"I cant do nothing about the relationship of RC towards the FM's , what the FM's can do though is still continue to RESPECT the RC and all other religions and even the atheist in the world ."

We need to realize we cannot change people, that is a personal decision.

[NASYO]

i really wanna know what are their secrets..

[giddyboy]

@ GIDDYBOY ....

Mo taas ug magkalukot na ang atong diskusyon about the relationship of RC and FM . For me , INCONSISTENT lang ang vatican because all laws / heirarchies / theories / decisions etc are just man made ang was only made specific to the flock by the shepherds .

A good example would that be like yesterday , ASH WEDNESDAY , it was only a mad made decision to instill DISCIPLINE into the flock the idea of FASTING or not eating any MEAT . My point is , FAITH will save us and not our RELIGION / CHURCH . I cant do nothing about the relationship of RC towards the FM's , what the FM's can do though is still continue to RESPECT the RC and all other religions and even the atheist in the world .

i know...we can't do anything about it...lukot gyud na ang discussion between RC and FM.

thing is, we are 90% Roman Catholics and we are talking about Freemasonry...isn't that a significant relation to talk about?

"Ngano apilon man ug istorya ang Katolisismo nga Freemasonry man ang topic?"

of course, FM is not a religion, but it is a BELIEF SYSTEM that embraces all religion. that is why we can never escape discussing the relationship between FM to religions coz it's already a given issue in the first place....what more significant thoughts pa diay ang atoang istoryahan regarding FM other than its relation w/ religion?

i know ur point, FAITH is what saves us...i agree on that...i just can't help but notice your undertone of "just man-made decisions", and, "inconsistent" towards RC doctrines and practices...pero imoha man sab na.

[pijavier]

i know...we can't do anything about it...

we are 90% Roman Catholics and we are talking about Freemasonry...isn't that a significant relation to talk about?

"Ngano apilon man ug istorya ang Katolisismo nga Freemasonry man ang topic?"

of course, FM is not a religion, but it is a BELIEF SYSTEM that embraces all religion. that is why we can never escape mentioning the relationship between FM to religions coz it's already a given issue in the first place....what more significant thoughts pa diay ang atoang istoryahan regarding FM other than its relation w/ religion?

i know ur point, FAITH is what saves us...i agree on that...i just can't help but notice your undertone of "just man-made decisions", and, "inconsistent" towards RC doctrines and practices...pero imo man sab na.

YOu got a point!

[pijavier]

Why is this a big deal with the Catholic church though?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ GIDDYBOY ...

The discussion about FM and RC surfaced after someone was saying something about disrespecting like stepping on the bible etc and that boiled down to the Roman Catholics .

The reason why I pointed out the terms " MAN MADE DECISIONS " and " INCONSISTENCIES " because I just noticed it . We cant find it in the bible pod which is the most common reason to adhere when we talk about religion but I know its offtopic na , there are lots of practices ang RC which I dont have any problem at all but we all know that it is MA N MADE for reasons to include OBEDIENCE and DISCIPLINE .

We cant make a discussion bro about FREEMASONRY w/o relating it to ROMAN CATHOLISM . hand in hand gyud na siya no matter what basta naay mo ukay about SPECULATIVE REVELATIONS about FM .

[giddyboy]

Why is this a big deal with the Catholic church though?

i don't think it's a big deal...sa kadako sa populasyon sa Katolisismo dire sa Pinas...i don't think so.

[giddyboy]

@ GIDDYBOY ...
The discussion about FM and RC surfaced after someone was saying something about disrespecting like stepping on the bible etc and that boiled down to the Roman Catholics .

ah, u mean in istorya.net diay...ok way blema bro...let them continue...what i meant was the issue between FM and RC was already a long issue even before our grandest of grandfathers were born...and yes, that will be a long discussion to even comprehend...

The reason why I pointed out the terms " MAN MADE DECISIONS " and " INCONSISTENCIES " because I just noticed it . We cant find it in the bible pod which is the most common reason to adhere when we talk about religion but I know its offtopic na , there are lots of practices ang RC which I dont have any problem at all but we all know that it is MA N MADE for reasons to include OBEDIENCE and DISCIPLINE .

We cant make a discussion bro about FREEMASONRY w/o relating it to ROMAN CATHOLISM . hand in hand gyud na siya no matter what basta naay mo ukay about SPECULATIVE REVELATIONS about FM .

did it ever occur to u that Freemasonry is also a MAN-MADE DECISION with INCONSISTENCIES too?

as i've mentioned before, dili ra RC involved ani for discussion but all religions (even Christian cults, and New Age cults) for that matter...

[JX]

Let's stick to the Free Masonry Topics guys.

Besides a lot of Religions in the other threads are already claiming only they can be saved, including those that say a person can only be saved through the Holy Sacraments and Catechism.

its not that OT really bro, im pointing out that for me, with the Bereans site in connection FM is not that credible to me bec. the site is claiming to be of being a true christian way which i really dont see in my own pov.. hehe..

[pijavier]

its not that OT really bro, im pointing out that for me, with the Bereans site in connection FM is not that credible to me bec. the site is claiming to be of being a true christian way which i really dont see in my own pov.. hehe..

You misunderstand me bro... Apology accepted I wasn't referring to you. that was for someone else.

I like the Bereans website. very informative.

I've also researched their articles (some) and have proven to have some weight on what they are saying.