Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

[bcasabee]

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I see, and so when the Protestants came, they took away the apocryphal books and another Bible was born. Why didnt the Protestants create their own translation(or do they have?), why are they relying on the translations of St. Jerome and St. Augustine. That's weird.

ang first bible translation(Latin Vulgate) ni St. Jerome wala nya gi apil ang apocryphal books but later when St, Augustine tell him to include the apocyphal books and After conferring with Pope Damasus, St. Jerome included the Deuterocanonical books in his translation as the first official bible translation of the catholic church...

[bcasabee]

May I know, how the original Bible was lost? Or was there really a Bible before St. Jerome and St. Agustine or not? And all we can find before them were bits and pieces of scriptures....And then St Jerome and St. Agustine came and put this bits and pieces into what we call the Bible.

[brownprose]

murag OT naman ang mga posts.

[NASYO]

statue = representation of a true object
bible = a basis of faith and a representation

[tagatisa]

murag OT naman ang mga posts.

mao jud. kuyawan na man ko kay mura ug scholarly na kaau ang debate da. padaplin lang sa ta

[GOSPELofROCH]

Venerating Saints through Images are Doctrine made from Vatican the Product is Paganism Injecting Into Christianity ... Very Unbiblical Therefore a False Doctrine.

ok...yah dats rayt!

[rcruman]

jesus was not writing,
he was giving direction to mary magdaline
kay og dili mo salir iya explination nya ma bato jud c magdaline......
iya gi tagaan escape route para maka lusot jud!

any proof and basis about this?
or imo-imo rani?

Peace!

[barcode 999]

belive first and you will see..................

[necrotic freak]

I see, and so when the Protestants came, they took away the apocryphal books and another Bible was born. Why didnt the Protestants create their own translation(or do they have?), why are they relying on the translations of St. Jerome and St. Augustine. That's weird.

wierd indeed..

For many years throughout Christendom the bible, with the Septuagint, was used. Martin Luther's break from Catholicism and the development of the idea of "faith alone" as the basis for salvation gave the reformers a chance to question books in the bible that did not support this view. The reformers particulary attacked Hebrews, Revelation, and the Deuterocanonical books. Since the New Testament books had already been agreed upon at the council at Carthage in 395AD, the idea of removing Hebrews and Revelation from the bible was not widely embraced. The Deuterocanonicals, however, did not fare so well. Some reformation churches included them in scripture and others did not. Finally the Church was forced to formally recognized what books had been traditionally used. This was done at the council of Trent, and this list, based on traditional Christian teaching is the list of books used by Catholic today.

[amingb]

wierd indeed..

For many years throughout Christendom the bible, with the Septuagint, was used. Martin Luther's break from Catholicism and the development of the idea of "faith alone" as the basis for salvation gave the reformers a chance to question books in the bible that did not support this view. The reformers particulary attacked Hebrews, Revelation, and the Deuterocanonical books. Since the New Testament books had already been agreed upon at the council at Carthage in 395AD, the idea of removing Hebrews and Revelation from the bible was not widely embraced. The Deuterocanonicals, however, did not fare so well. Some reformation churches included them in scripture and others did not. Finally the Church was forced to formally recognized what books had been traditionally used. This was done at the council of Trent, and this list, based on traditional Christian teaching is the list of books used by Catholic today.

Now Protestantism arose in the sixteenth century in reaction to such claims and teachings of the Roman church. In the Middle Ages, most within the church had believed that the Bible and the tradition of the church taught the same, or at least complementary, doctrines. But as Luther and others studied the Bible with a greater care and depth than the church had done in centuries, they began to discover that tradition actually contradicted the Bible. They discovered that, for example:

(1) The Bible teaches that the office of bishop and presbyter are the same office (Titus 1:5-7), but tradition says they are different offices.

(2) The Bible teaches that all have sinned except Jesus (Romans 3:10-12, Hebrews 4:15), but tradition says that Mary was sinless.

(3) The Bible teaches that Christ offered His sacrifice once for all (Hebrews 7:27, 9:28, 10:10), but tradition says that the priest sacrifices Christ on the altar at mass.

(4) The Bible says that we are not to bow down to statues (Exodus 20:4, 5), but tradition says that we should bow down to statues.

(5) The Bible says that all Christians are saints and priests (Ephesians 1:1; 1 Peter 2:9), but tradition says that saints and priests are special castes within the Christian community.

(6) The Bible says that Jesus is the only Mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5), but tradition says Mary is co-mediator with Christ.

(7) The Bible says that all Christians should know that they have eternal life (1 John 5:13), but tradition says that all Christians cannot and should not know that they have eternal life.

The Reformers saw that the words of Jesus to the Pharisees applied equally to their day: “You nullify the Word of God for the sake of your tradition” (Matthew 15:6).