Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

[purple]

@vern: ok maybe i made a mistake about thailand.. but i just want to point out to all of you that most and i estimate that 90% or even higher of males are not concerned anymore about moral laws given by God,Jesus Christ and Muhammad..

maybe people dont read the bible anymore even if its the #1 best selling book.

i want you all to know that the Philippines i fear is going to fall under morality to the category of the United States where Teenage girls get pregnant..where society openly accepts fornication or premarital ***..where divorce is legal..where pedophiles make videos about sexually molesting young girls.. where the killing of unborn babies is LEGAL!


totally disgusting in my opinion..


i guess we do have this colonial mentality..


I just hope that never will prostitution be legalized..


because when that happens ..



then i know that is the beginning of a GREAT moral breakdown here in the Philippines..



Note: I wrote this as a concerned citizen and as a Christian.

[giddyboy]

We all know that religion is a source of moral authority...but it is not all. Morality can also be based from anthropological (tribal & territorial morality), evolutionary, neuro-scientific and psychiatric, and psychological perspectives...

If morality is the answer to the question 'how ought we to live' at the individual level, politics can be seen as addressing the same question at the social level...

All human cultures have a morality of some sort, but do they all have the same morality? No, and this has led some to argue that there is no universal morality - that all morality is simply relative to time, place, and culture.

i'm mentioning these things coz morality has different angles and should be considered on this issue. There is personal morality, group morality, public morality, religious morality, God-less morality, judicial morality, and so on and so forth. There is even a term called "moral relativism and absolutism".

Just take the case of this writer, Sara Mackenzie...is she immoral? well, it depends on somebody's perspective.
Sara Mackenzie is an ex-prostitute who is currently a writer and researcher.

PROSTITUTION IS MORALLY NEUTRAL
source: THE MORALITY OF PROSTITUTION, by SARA MACKENZIE

"I have always found *** to be a rather peculiar thing morally. People have such emotionally charged and divergent views about it. With other subjects such as world peace, or an end to starvation, there seems to be general agreement that these are “Good Things”. But bring up the subject of *** and immediately there are vastly different views as to whether it is a “Good Thing” or a “Bad Thing”. Also with prostitution. There are some to whom prostitutes are near heroes, such as Robert Heinlein who characterises them as such in his books ... There are others to whom prostitutes represent “fallen women”. To the vast majority of people they are an unknown quantity apart from stereotypical received media images. To some feminists and psychologists they are victims. Of course, the truth is that they are none of these things. In the main they are a non-homogeneous group of people doing a job. The same job. And that is about the only common characteristic many prostitutes share. To me, prostitution is morally neutral, as is *** itself.

It is how one uses prostitution that gives it moral value. The act of paying for *** for me confers no moral value on it one way or another. It is neither good nor bad, it is simply an act. This also applies for me in the separation of *** from love and marriage (or a committed relationship, etc.). If one uses prostitution, or *** itself, to try to harm another human being it is morally bad. If one uses either to help or give pleasure to another human being it is morally good. It is as simple as that. Of course, in the real world it is never as simple as that, but that is my bottom line."...

THIS ISSUE is not only limited to Christian, Muslim, or even personal morals...we have to open up our minds to understand the context of prostitution better.

[godsaint]

Prostitution is often referred to as the "oldest profession." Indeed, it has always been a common way for women to make money, even in Biblical times. The Bible tells us that prostitution is immoral. Proverbs 23:27-28 says, "A prostitute is a deep pit; an adulterous woman is treacherous. She hides and waits like a robber, looking for another victim who will be unfaithful to his wife."

God forbids involvement with prostitutes. "For the lips of an immoral woman drip honey, And her mouth is smoother than oil; But in the end she is bitter as wormwood, Sharp as a two-edged sword. Her feet go down to death, Her steps lay hold of hell" (Proverbs 5:3-5).

Prostitution not only destroy marriages, families, and lives, but it destroys the spirit and soul in a way that leads to physical and spiritual death. God's desire is that we stay pure and use our bodies as tools for His use and glory (Romans 6:13). 1 Corinthians 6:13 says, "...But our bodies were not made for sexual immorality. They were made for the Lord, and the Lord cares about our bodies."

[vern]

@purple ... I don't give a rat's ass about Jesus, Allah, Buddah. They do not dictate morality and belief in them does not equate to morality. The Philippines is a great example.

You make fornication sound so bad. If you don't believe in pre-marital ***, then that is your opinion. People don't hold the same beliefs. You are no one to say that your belief is right and what others believe is wrong. Your religion also has no right to tell others of different faiths and values what is right and wrong. I don't know how you spent your teenage years, but friends tell me they "fornicated at will". That is what I hear, I of course would never do such a thing. Oh yeah, most of them were Catholic. lolololololol Teenagers in the US and in the Philippines aren't so different after all.

Teenage girls get pregnant in the Philippines ... I know. If you haven't met any pregnant teenage girls in the Philippines, please step out of your house.

Pedophiles make videos when they can and I am pretty sure, the punishment for such is harsher in the US than in the Philippines.

Abortion is again, a judgement call whether it is morally right or wrong. Your beliefs and religion, again are not everybody's.

There is no data or indicator that outlawing prostitution does anything to help these issues. What we can do however is look towards the countries with legal prostitution and see the results.

You emphasizing your Christianity is exactly why you would never be open to such a thing. You put your morals in front of what is better for society and for the state ... yet you fail to see the real world with real Christians who are not as pure as Jesus Christ. You my friend live in a Utopia that does not exist ... a Utopia where human free will does not exist ... a Utopia where human nature does not exist.

[simoncpu]

Meh. Watch na lang mo ug Firefly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)) para malipay mo. In the world of Firefly, prostitutes are called Companions and their services are highly prized. Companions are a cross between Geishas and courtesans, and they enjoy high social standing in society. I don't like prostitutes, but I'll make an exception with Inara. Type nako si Inara:

[img width=398 height=500]http://www.btinternet.com/~crippsy_99/pictures/autographs/inara.jpg[/img]

[giddyboy]

Prostitution is often referred to as the "oldest profession." Indeed, it has always been a common way for women to make money, even in Biblical times. The Bible tells us that prostitution is immoral. Proverbs 23:27-28 says, "A prostitute is a deep pit; an adulterous woman is treacherous. She hides and waits like a robber, looking for another victim who will be unfaithful to his wife."

God forbids involvement with prostitutes. "For the lips of an immoral woman drip honey, And her mouth is smoother than oil; But in the end she is bitter as wormwood, Sharp as a two-edged sword. Her feet go down to death, Her steps lay hold of hell" (Proverbs 5:3-5).

Prostitution not only destroy marriages, families, and lives, but it destroys the spirit and soul in a way that leads to physical and spiritual death. God's desire is that we stay pure and use our bodies as tools for His use and glory (Romans 6:13). 1 Corinthians 6:13 says, "...But our bodies were not made for sexual immorality. They were made for the Lord, and the Lord cares about our bodies."

i'm also a Catholic...and i know also those biblical entries...but the reality is, the Catholic Church or any Christian faith is not the owner of moral authority...there is even no universal morality...if we go past our religion and personal beliefs, and we open up our minds to a more "critical thinking", we get a more wider perspective...

of course, there is this "divine command theory" that states: "Religious belief systems usually include the idea of divine will and divine judgment and usually correspond to a moral code of conduct."

But divine command theory is widely criticized.

As Plato said, "Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?"

so to speak his statement: "Is prostitution morally bad because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally bad?"

[godsaint]

i'm also a Catholic...and i know also those biblical entries...but the reality is, the Catholic Church is not the owner of moral authority...there is even no universal morality...if we go past our religion and personal beliefs, and we open up our minds to a more "critical thinking", we get a more wider perspective...

of course, there is this "divine command theory" that states: "Religious belief systems usually include the idea of divine will and divine judgment and usually correspond to a moral code of conduct."

But divine command theory is widely criticized.

As Plato said, "Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?"

so to speak his statement: "Is prostitution morally bad because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally bad?"

The message is not only limited to Catholic church but to all Christians.All that has been written in the bible cannot be compared to any theories.Theories were made by men in search for the facts while all that has been written in the bible were words of God.

@giddyboy

Plato said, "Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?"

so to speak his statement: "Is prostitution morally bad because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally bad?"

The answer is both.Gods knows what is good for men and what is forbidden.That is His command but we still have the choice.If we choose to be on the wrong side,lightning will not strike us.Can a true Christian sleep well looking at her wife sleeping while wating for him coming from another womans bedroom?Guilt and conscience will not bring him to sleep.

[giddyboy]

The message is not only limited to Catholic church but to all Christians.All that has been written in the bible cannot be compared to any theories.Theories were made by men in search for the facts while all that has been written in the bible were words of God.

@giddyboy

Plato said, "Is an action morally good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally good?"

so to speak his statement: "Is prostitution morally bad because God commands it, or does God command it because it is morally bad?"

The answer is both.Gods knows what is good for men and what is forbidden.That is His command but we still have the choice.If we choose to be on the wrong side,lightning will not strike us.Can a true Christian sleep well looking at her wife sleeping while wating for him coming from another womans bedroom?Guilt and conscience will not bring him to sleep.

bsan pa ma Catholic, INC, Mormons, Sabadista, Muslim, kang Father tropa, kang Ecleo, kang Quiboloy, or Satanismo pa imong relihiyon, or wala kay relihiyon at all, that is not the point.

ang main point lang is...there is no universal morality, and religion is not the only source of moral perspective...pure & simple.

pero ok bro...payts...basin pa mas maayo pa diay imong logic kaysa ni Plato...

nya lisod na pud kng maabot pa ta ug lalis sa relihiyon aning isyuha...basin di ta mag-abot...nyahaha

[jntio]

i am nt in favor to it. dghan malipay. apil nko. hehe

[giddyboy]

as again, Prostitution is a morality issue...but the question is, what moral authority or standards are we basing it from?

(1) religion perspective?...divine command theory, moral codes

(2) political perspective?...political conservatives make their moral choices using five moral variables (harm/care, fairness/reciprocity, ingroup loyalty, authority/respect, purity/sanctity), whereas liberals use only two (harm/care and fairness/reciprocity)

(3) anthropological perspective?...tribal and territorial moralities, in-group/out-group

(4) evolutionary perspective?...morality is a product of evolutionary forces

(5) neuroscientific & psychiatric perspective?...mirror neurons play a role in empathy as a social behavior, ultimately leads to morality.

(6) psychological perspective?...the capacity for guilt, is viewed as a maladaptive byproduct of the evolution of rationality

(7) feminist perspective:

(a) radical feminism?...women’s oppression is the most fundamental form of oppression.It is the model for all other kinds of oppression. A prostitute, in their view, does not act out of free choice but is a victim of coercion in both its most subtle and direct forms.

(b) liberal feminism?...prostitution is conceived of in the contractrarian sense of being a private business transaction.

(c) existentialist feminism?...derives that Prostitution allows women an avenue of escape from dependency on men in a way that does not leave them victims, but empowered women.

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...in the Phils., we mostly base our moral standards from our religion perspective, which is predominantly Roman Catholic.