Is Creationist Science Worth Believing?

[IdontCare]

@rodsky


Yes there is only one science but it is divided into two areas. Even great scientist would agree to this.

There are stuffs in science that cant be tested and repeated for example the origin of the universe, you cant repeat the process so what do they do, they get into philosophical science. in here they wouild make a hypothesis on how it all started.


We dont know yet if the earth is the center of the universe.

I agree let science be science.

suppression of data? hmmm, Ever heard of OUT OF PLACE ARTIFACTS? i think they should show these to the public and explain it too. I heard they are hiding these stuff. There is a fossil where it shows a footprint of a dinosaur and what seemingly appeared to be a human footprint, now they are hiding this because this one goes against their theory that human and dinos never co existed.

[IdontCare]

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[aubrey_pearl]

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[IdontCare]

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[rodsky]

@rodsky


Yes there is only one science but it is divided into two areas. Even great scientist would agree to this.

IMHO there are no "great" scientists. Each one and the one before him, is only a dwarf sitting on a giant's shoulder.

There are stuffs in science that cant be tested and repeated for example the origin of the universe, you cant repeat the process so what do they do, they get into philosophical science. in here they wouild make a hypothesis on how it all started.

The only reason why something cannot be tested now, is because technology has not evolved to a sufficient degree for us to observe the event. For example, can you ask Anton Van Leeuwenhok if he knows what are the major components of an atom? He cannot answer that question in his time, because there was no Electron Microscope that time. Can you ask Christian Huygens if Saturn's moon Titan has organic compounds? Huygens will NOT be able to answer (even if he discovered Titan) because wala pa'y Cassini spacecraft available at the time. I believe if human beings continue to make scientific and technological progress, even replicating an event such as the creation of a universe would be possible. I mean, heck, they're creating new breeds of sheep and rats now in genetic engineering, something "impossible" 50 years ago.

We dont know yet if the earth is the center of the universe.

True, but that doesn't mean we can't find out about it in the future, given the right technology and means. Johannes Kepler could only DREAM of going to the moon. At this very moment, the Japanese have an HDTV camera orbiting it. Everything is knowable. Time (and the prolonged survival of the human species) is the only issue.

suppression of data? hmmm, Ever heard of OUT OF PLACE ARTIFACTS? i think they should show these to the public and explain it too. I heard they are hiding these stuff. There is a fossil where it shows a footprint of a dinosaur and what seemingly appeared to be a human footprint, now they are hiding this because this one goes against their theory that human and dinos never co existed.

Show us links and produce hard factual data that such suppression has occurred. It's easy to say this and that, but it's an entirely different story if you have the hard facts right on your lap.

-RODION

[IdontCare]

IMHO there are no "great" scientists. Each one and the one before him, is only a dwarf sitting on a giant's shoulder.

The only reason why something cannot be tested now, is because technology has not evolved to a sufficient degree for us to observe the event. For example, can you ask Anton Van Leeuwenhok if he knows what are the major components of an atom? He cannot answer that question in his time, because there was no Electron Microscope that time. Can you ask Christian Huygens if Saturn's moon Titan has organic compounds? Huygens will NOT be able to answer (even if he discovered Titan) because wala pa'y Cassini spacecraft available at the time. I believe if human beings continue to make scientific and technological progress, even replicating an event such as the creation of a universe would be possible. But then that's me.

True, but that doesn't mean we can't find out about it in the future, given the right technology and means. Johannes Kepler could only DREAM of going to the moon. At this very moment, the Japanese have an HDTV camera orbiting it. Everything is knowable. Time (and the prolonged survival of the human species) is the only issue.

Show us links and produce hard factual data that such suppression has occurred. It's easy to say this and that, but it's an entirely different story if you have the hard facts right on your lap.

-RODION

Aw mao bah there are no Great scientists. lahi sab ni imo dah. pero ok lang.

correct i agree but can you really put the universe inisde a SCOPE or something of that kind? i dont think so.
Then can yo repeat and test supernova? I dont think so.


You know what i admire your sincerity but let me tell you this, i think ayaw ka suko ha opinion ra ni nako i maybe wrong but i think bag-o ra ka sa mga ingun ani nga discussion, ma obserbahan man nako gud. Most people nga dugay na ug discuss ani kabalo na sila unsay pasabot anang Out of place artifacts.

[rodsky]

Aw mao bah there are no Great scientists. lahi sab ni imo dah. pero ok lang.

correct i agree but can you really put the universe inisde a SCOPE or something of that kind? i dont think so.
Then can yo repeat and test supernova? I dont think so.


You know what i admire your sincerity but let me tell you this, i think ayaw ka suko ha opinion ra ni nako i maybe wrong but i think bag-o ra ka sa mga ingun ani nga discussion, ma obserbahan man nako gud. Most people nga dugay na ug discuss ani kabalo na sila unsay pasabot anang Out of place artifacts.

I know what out of place artifacts are, but again, you are not directly answering my question. Or are you just lazy to post the links? Stop avoiding the issue and just present facts--that is what science is all about. This is precisely the reason why research papers have a bibiography section, or are you now saying to me that bibliographies are useless and are a waste of time?

And about recreating a supernova. Given sufficient technology, it can be done. That's the point of knowing about Physics--you know what's inside a star, but you don't necessarily physically enter it. For instance, if I followed your line of thinking, I can prove to you, that you don't have an organ called a heart...why? Dili man gud nimo mapakita sa ako, unless you get a knife and open your chest diba? But since I know something about anatomy and human physiology, then rest assured I do believe that you have a heart inside your chest. See the difference now?

And I like how you demean people by questioning their authority, and underlining their apparent ignorance ("...i think bag-o ra ka sa mga ingun ani nga discussion, ma obserbahan man nako gud..."), interesting strategy, because it's being used by another type of individual who resides in this planet...that creature is called a politician Very interesting indeed.

-RODION

[IdontCare]

I know what out of place artifacts are, but again, you are not directly answering my question. Or are you just lazy to post the links? Stop avoiding the issue and just present facts--that is what science is all about.

And about recreating a supernova. Given sufficient technology, it can be done. That's the point of knowing about Physics--you know what's inside a star, but you don't necessarily physically enter it. For instance, if I followed your line of thinking, I can prove to you, that you don't have an organ called a heart...why? Dili man gud nimo mapakita sa ako, unless you get a knife and open your chest diba? But since I know something about anatomy and human physiology, then rest assured I do believe that you have a heart inside your chest. See the difference now?

And I like how you demean people by questioning their authority, and underlining their apparent ignorance ("...i think bag-o ra ka sa mga ingun ani nga discussion, ma obserbahan man nako gud..."), interesting strategy, but it doesn't fool me. But very interesting indeed.

-RODION

ooops as ive said I MAYBE WRONG,naa toy disclaimer didto bro. hehehe

hmm pero mao lagi ang problema is wala tay sufficient technology. kanus.a pa kaha. So in otherwords dili pa nato ma recreate.

bro i just gave you an example of that particular out of place artifact,di bah? what do you want me to do? mo adto ko sa U.S.A nya ako tong kuhaon then ako ipakita nimo?

[rodsky]

hmm pero mao lagi ang problema is wala tay sufficient technology. kanus.a pa kaha. So in otherwords dili pa nato ma recreate.

Therefore, you are not after the truth. You have a selfish notion that unless YOU yourself sees it for a fact, then it is NOT truth. That is sad. Because that means, if you or your descendants don't have patience, you will not realize what you seek--which means humanity is doomed. Don't worry, your consolation is you great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandchildren may be able to see it, so stop envying them and get on with your life LOL.

I am teaching my own child that the only thing of value in her life is optimism--because it's the way to bring human civilization to realizing that since we come from stardust, then one day we shall go back to the stars...impossible for now, only because people like you, say so...I shall make sure to shield her from people with opinions such as yours.

bro i just gave you an example of that particular out of place artifact,di bah? what do you want me to do? mo adto ko sa U.S.A nya ako tong kuhaon then ako ipakita nimo?

Grabe man sad na oi, lol, bisag links ra bay, ok na, and corresponding links to further support the reports. Kana lang. No biggie. Remember my post earlier, about the scientific method? Do exactly as I did, cite the source, and the supporting facts.

-RODION

[aubrey_pearl]

I am teaching my own child that the only thing of value in her life is optimism--because it's the way to bring human civilization to realizing that since we come from stardust, then one day we shall go back to the stars...impossible for now, only because people like you, say so...I shall make sure to shield her from people with opinions such as yours.

and so as mine someday. rodsky, ur child(ren) must be lucky to have u as a father.